HomeskillitMoorman Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I think to me that's one of the biggest glaring aspects about this team that is so visibly obvious. I know people have even mentioned her that their wives who don't really even pay much attention have noticed and remark about this - they don't look like they're having fun anymore. This is where I think things are different than 2 years ago when we fell to 7-6...the team still seemed very close-knit and it still felt like we could go on a run. Things have changed. This team plays much more tight, much more afraid to fail. It's just not really fun anymore. Maybe it's that the honeymoon is over and now they're facing real pressure and the stuff about the window is factoring in and they feel like they're up against it. McD has just lost every facet of this team whether it's on the field or intangibly. We need a new voice, maybe just someone competent who isn't a part of all the chokejobs and can bring a fresher and more confident feeling. I've wanted him gone since 13 seconds but this is the first time I've felt he absolutely HAS to go. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Although I still think there's other issues at play here(playcalling, scheming, personnel, etc. ) I definitely agree with this. It's a completely different ballgame when you are a young team on the rise after being a dumpster fire for 17 years, everything is all roses and gravy and I'm sure the atmosphere felt very fun for the players. But now after too many disappointments and the years going by with early exits in the playoffs, the pressure begins to mount. Expectations rise...it does feel like this is a team that really struggles with pressure and expectations. It just doesn't look like they play with a real confidence anymore even though they still say all the right things in press conferences. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoolhouserock Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 At times it does feel like there is a lifelessness that permeates this team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 It doesn’t seem to come easy to them. Everything is robotic and a lot of the success they have is broken down sandlot football type of plays. I don’t see anyone getting open on time besides diggs and now Kincaid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chugga Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I get the vibe that there is a feeling within the building that they are cursed. We went on a magical run two years straight and we were very lucky. Winning close games Josh couldn’t throw a red zone interception if his life depended on it and most importantly we were remarkably healthy. And these last 2 years seems like we are cursed and we aren’t playing the same way we used to. They don’t look like they are having fun anymore it looks like they are trying not to make the mistakes that the pundits say they make. And in doing so they are playing slower and not as free. I’ll be the first person to say Dorsey is a huge problem but there is something else going on there. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 41 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: Although I still think there's other issues at play here(playcalling, scheming, personnel, etc. ) I definitely agree with this. It's a completely different ballgame when you are a young team on the rise after being a dumpster fire for 17 years, everything is all roses and gravy and I'm sure the atmosphere felt very fun for the players. But now after too many disappointments and the years going by with early exits in the playoffs, the pressure begins to mount. Expectations rise...it does feel like this is a team that really struggles with pressure and expectations. It just doesn't look like they play with a real confidence anymore even though they still say all the right things in press conferences. I have to agree. I think part of these real poor first halves the team played the last two weeks is due to nerves/tightness. When the team loosened up in the 2nd half they play/played better. I mean last week they got away with it. Not this week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 They let bad teams hang around… I don’t think it’s anything new .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 They're not a mentally tough team, that's for sure, and in that regard it's a reflection of their head coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Business like. Remember the team we had back when we stomped Dallas on turkey day? That team had fun. They were playing lights out and enjoying the moment. Then the expectations started and the team stopped being loose, fun and playing free. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 48 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: Although I still think there's other issues at play here(playcalling, scheming, personnel, etc. ) I definitely agree with this. It's a completely different ballgame when you are a young team on the rise after being a dumpster fire for 17 years, everything is all roses and gravy and I'm sure the atmosphere felt very fun for the players. But now after too many disappointments and the years going by with early exits in the playoffs, the pressure begins to mount. Expectations rise...it does feel like this is a team that really struggles with pressure and expectations. It just doesn't look like they play with a real confidence anymore even though they still say all the right things in press conferences. but I think the play calling, scheming etc… goes hand in hand with the atmosphere and energy around the team. remember how the guys used to talk about daboll, or their WR coach? im not a guy that thought daboll was the greatest ever but I do generally think that the offense is missing a cohesive identity that everyone more or less buys into. I don’t think Dorsey has created that on or off the field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Is your conclusion is Mahomes is better than Allen so why even try? Just because Mahomes has 321 yards at halftime . I’m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Business like. Remember the team we had back when we stomped Dallas on turkey day? That team had fun. They were playing lights out and enjoying the moment. Then the expectations started and the team stopped being loose, fun and playing free. Let’s be completely honest though… even that team lost the playoff game against the Texans in close to the worst possible way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, NoSaint said: but I think the play calling, scheming etc… goes hand in hand with the atmosphere and energy around the team. remember how the guys used to talk about daboll, or their WR coach? im not a guy that thought daboll was the greatest ever but I do generally think that the offense is missing a cohesive identity that everyone more or less buys into. I don’t think Dorsey has created that on or off the field. Yes that's a fair point too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, NoSaint said: but I think the play calling, scheming etc… goes hand in hand with the atmosphere and energy around the team. remember how the guys used to talk about daboll, or their WR coach? im not a guy that thought daboll was the greatest ever but I do generally think that the offense is missing a cohesive identity that everyone more or less buys into. I don’t think Dorsey has created that on or off the field. He has not and he will never do it because he’s the biggest waste of oxygen on this coaching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 More worried about urgency than playing loose. Stop killing drives by running plays for guys who can’t catch or running our 190lb RB up the gut. Going to Kincaid good first step but it takes too long for the offense to adjust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Agreed. The fun was time in 2021. Last year was a struggle for a variety of reasons. On field disasters, off the field nonsense before the Bengals game yielded drama that infected the off-season. I really feel like the stupid London trip wore them out, and everything is hard now. Gotta be looser in offense—try some trick plays, do something different, whatever just to make it interesting for the guys. And, McD is wound pretty tight and I wonder if it’s just getting old. 7 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: More worried about urgency than playing loose. Stop killing drives by running plays for guys who can’t catch or running our 190lb RB up the gut. Going to Kincaid good first step but it takes too long for the offense to adjust. I’m with you - play fast. If I see another 2nd and seven run next week I will lose my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackKemp Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 There is no sense of urgency in the first 2-3 quarters anymore. It is like they finally wake when they realize they just might lose the game. You can’t live on the fairy tale comebacks every week. It is the offense that lacks that energy. So it has to be Dorsey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, schoolhouserock said: At times it does feel like there is a lifelessness that permeates this team. Seems like it’s robotic energy from McDermy.. not sure how to explain it. Is the message not getting to the players ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, QLBillsFan said: Seems like it’s robotic energy from McDermy.. not sure how to explain it. Is the message not getting to the players ? I’m starting to think they might need something else … something new .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 The poor preparation is evident. I don't see them having fun and it does not seem like a close knit team anymore. Something is missing with the team chemistry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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