BaaadThingsMan Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I think they should, those tackles lead to alot of injuries. In my opinion those types of tackles are weak and cowardice. If you can't tackle a player without laying on the back of his legs like that then you shouldn't be in the league. 2 10 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 It’s definitely like a horse collar tackle. 3 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: Ironic, the nfl want to keep putting safety rules in place yet injuries are sky rocking at a faster pace than ever before. Seems to be having the opposite affect. now try imagine what it would look like w out the safety rules lol it would be an absolute bloodbath 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: now try imagine what it would look like w out the safety rules lol it would be an absolute bloodbath Like the 70s and 80s 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Guys would get hurt if it were flag football. I wonder how many injuries are due to big hits vs just random stuff. Most of our injuries have all seemed to be on normal plays that could not be avoided with some rule change. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I do sometimes wonder how you're supposed to officiate or control how this works in a game as fast and as violent as NFL football. We're favoring the passing game, so defenders are getting smaller, faster and more agile/athletic. As a result, they're being forced to tackle players that are bigger than them. That puts the defender at a disadvantage when trying to tackle. What is the defenders supposed to do other than drop their legs out from under them, using the weight of their body as a means to create dead weight and bring the offensive player down? So many of these ticky tack rules, it makes for a worse overall game because if the play isn't executed perfectly by everyone on the field the offensive is either gifted a fresh set of downs or is walking back 10-15 yards and the drive is basically on life support. Frankly, and I know this sounds insane, but they should just get rid of pads/helmets and force the players to play that way. Instead of trying to legislate safety but forcing players to wear more armor and get faster/stronger, force players to protect their bodies because there isn't anything protect them. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: Ironic, the nfl want to keep putting safety rules in place yet injuries are sky rocking at a faster pace than ever before. Seems to be having the opposite affect. The league needs to do a better job at maintaining their playing fields. Natural grass is the safest choice and a multibillion dollar league shouldn't cheap out on astroturf while claiming to promote player safety. 7 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Allen2Diggs said: The league needs to do a better job at maintaining their playing fields. Natural grass is the safest choice and a multibillion dollar league shouldn't cheap out on astroturf while claiming to promote player safety. Agreed. That should be priority one. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 It'd be helpful if they included a clip of what they were talking about, a lot harder to understand just from a still. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, BaaadThingsMan said: Like the 70s and 80s w todays athletes lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, uninja said: I do sometimes wonder how you're supposed to officiate or control how this works in a game as fast and as violent as NFL football. We're favoring the passing game, so defenders are getting smaller, faster and more agile/athletic. As a result, they're being forced to tackle players that are bigger than them. That puts the defender at a disadvantage when trying to tackle. What is the defenders supposed to do other than drop their legs out from under them, using the weight of their body as a means to create dead weight and bring the offensive player down? So many of these ticky tack rules, it makes for a worse overall game because if the play isn't executed perfectly by everyone on the field the offensive is either gifted a fresh set of downs or is walking back 10-15 yards and the drive is basically on life support. Frankly, and I know this sounds insane, but they should just get rid of pads/helmets and force the players to play that way. Instead of trying to legislate safety but forcing players to wear more armor and get faster/stronger, force players to protect their bodies because there isn't anything protect them. They are supposed to tackle the way they were taught as kids. Either lead with your shoulder and drive thru the man keeping your head up or hit and wrap your arms around their legs. Grabbing on and dropping your dead weight onto a runners legs isn't taught on any fields. 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: It'd be helpful if they included a clip of what they were talking about, a lot harder to understand just from a still. The picture shows a version of the tackle. Look at the runners ankle snapping. Edited October 18, 2023 by BaaadThingsMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Warcodered said: It'd be helpful if they included a clip of what they were talking about, a lot harder to understand just from a still. This is for rugby but explains it well. Edited October 18, 2023 by RoyBatty is alive 2 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, Warcodered said: It'd be helpful if they included a clip of what they were talking about, a lot harder to understand just from a still. Basically, the player grabs them from behind and then just uses their weight to pull them down. They let "their hips drop" to the ground to bring them down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 The irony of implementing the Horse Collar Tackle rule then all the players stopped wearing them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: now try imagine what it would look like w out the safety rules lol it would be an absolute bloodbath I miss these days 3 2 1 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, BaaadThingsMan said: They are supposed to tackle the way they were taught as kids. Either lead with your shoulder and drive thru the man keeping your head up or hit and wrap your arms around their legs. Grabbing on and dropping your dead weight onto a runners legs isn't taught on any fields. The picture shows a version of the tackle. Look at the runners ankle snapping. How do you lead with your shoulder and drive through a player when trying to tackle from behind? These tackles don't occur when the defensive player is facing them head on. It's typically from the side or the back when the defensive player is in pursuit. What's next? Once a player gets by you, you have to let them go? 2 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Herc11 said: How do you lead with your shoulder and drive through a player when trying to tackle from behind? These tackles don't occur when the defensive player is facing them head on. It's typically from the side or the back when the defensive player is in pursuit. What's next? Once a player gets by you, you have to let them go? In that case you go for the legs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, BaaadThingsMan said: In that case you go for the legs Right. The two moving parts that are significantly more difficult to get a hold of than the body. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 This will be very difficult to enforce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Herc11 said: Right. The two moving parts that are significantly more difficult to get a hold of than the body. Specifically the lower legs. You hit and wrap your arms around their lower legs. 5 minutes ago, Herc11 said: How do you lead with your shoulder and drive through a player when trying to tackle from behind? These tackles don't occur when the defensive player is facing them head on. It's typically from the side or the back when the defensive player is in pursuit. What's next? Once a player gets by you, you have to let them go? BTW you can hit someone from the side and drive through the tackle FYI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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