Can James Cook break a tackle, ever?!?!

[zow2]

So many people here love the guy. I just don’t see it as i’ve said since last season.  As a RB you simply have to break some arm tackles.  Watch Breece Hall for 2 carries and he’s everything Cook isn’t. 

Yes, when no one touches him, Cook is decent, but that’s the case with any RB.  I need more Damien Harris or Murray.  Cook seems like a nice change of pace, but not THE GUY to me.  Hope im proven wrong 

 

[BIGFOOTspaceman]

No

[Big Blitz]

Nope.  He scares no one.  

[NoSaint]

Just now, zow2 said:

So many people here love the guy. I just don’t see it as i’ve said since last season.  As a RB you simply have to break some arm tackles.  Watch Breece Hall for 2 carries and he’s everything Cook isn’t. 

Yes, when no one touches him, Cook is decent, but that’s the case with any RB.  I need more Damien Harris or Murray.  Cook seems like a nice change of pace, but not THE GUY to me.  Hope im proven wrong 

 

the difference- the jets have a much more physical defense than the bills

[mannc]

Funny, I just posted this.  The answer is, no, never.  The next yard Cook gains after contact will be his first.

[WEATHER DOT COM]

His peak is a guy like James White. Useful player, but not an every-down back.

[QB Bills]

I honestly don't get what people see in this guy. He's the definition of average. Singletary was miles better and even he wasn't a world beater.

[1onemangang7]

He's gotta be a top 5 back now after that 43 yards, right.  Buck said he looked fantastic.  Why wasnt he on the field in the drive for the tie.  I dont see how nobody gets it here, youre not running a pro style offense.  It's some hybrid run and shoot.  He's not Barry Sanders. They cant afford so many runs for losses cause he's never broke one yet. 

[zow2]

Just now, mannc said:

Funny, I just posted this.  The answer is, no, never.  The next yard Cook gains after contact will be his first.

 

I’ve said this since his very first carry. 

[Brand J]

That’s the main complaint I see as I watch him run. He doesn’t juke defenders out of their shoes, nor does anyone slide off an attempted tackle. Basically if he’s touched he’s going down. With that said, he wasn’t the reason for the L tonight, but a Jonathan Taylor, Breece Hall, or Saquon Barkley type of back with Cook’s speed would be invaluable. 

[BillsFan130]

Had a very up and down game.

 

At times i thought he looked really good, at times I thought he could have done a lot more 

[Billznut]

Cook remind me a lot of Spiller, with less talent. 

[KDIGGZ]

He is listed as 190lbs. Anyone who has played football knows you add a good 3" and 20lbs to your bio. That's not good

[WEATHER DOT COM]

Murray is going to be the lead back within a couple of weeks.

[Rc2catch]

I don’t know why he’s taking such a beating. He looked great tonight I thought. Usage might have been a little high, they didn’t exactly do him many favors running the same run play like 6-7 times out of the same formation. I wouldn’t expect him to get the tough yards and break tackles, I thought that’s why they signed Murray and Harris. 

[TuelTime]

It was reminiscent of when Nate Hackett was calling plays with CJ Spiller.

[1onemangang7]

1 minute ago, JayBaller10 said:

That’s the main complaint I see as I watch him run. He doesn’t juke defenders out of their shoes, nor does anyone slide off an attempted tackle. Basically if he’s touched he’s going down. With that said, he wasn’t the reason for the L tonight, but a Jonathan Taylor, Breece Hall, or Saquon Barkley type of back with Cook’s speed would be invaluable. 

a jon taylor, breece hall or saquon barkley will never have his speed...thats their appeal to him..  but he will never have their abilities either. 

[CapeBreton]

I honestly think he’s hurting the offence, more than helping. He’s obviously not a lead back but they’re involving him like he is, lots of early down runs and short passes going his way but you think the other team is scared of James Cook? He’s way too small and soft. 

[Brand J]

Just now, 1onemangang7 said:

a jon taylor, breece hall or saquon barkley will never have his speed...thats their appeal to him..  but he will never have their abilities either. 

Actually all three of those players tested faster than Cook if I’m not mistaken. 

[Aussie Joe]

Bills 2nd Round pick…

 

He’ll be fine 

[LABILLBACKER]

No, he's fast but has no ability to shed anyone.  And when your moron OC calls these delayed draws, it gives James no chance to use that speed.

[QLBillsFan]

6 minutes ago, zow2 said:

So many people here love the guy. I just don’t see it as i’ve said since last season.  As a RB you simply have to break some arm tackles.  Watch Breece Hall for 2 carries and he’s everything Cook isn’t. 

Yes, when no one touches him, Cook is decent, but that’s the case with any RB.  I need more Damien Harris or Murray.  Cook seems like a nice change of pace, but not THE GUY to me.  Hope im proven wrong 

 

Spot on.. I saw three of four plays if he cuts up he gains another 2 yards. He kicks everything outside and doesn’t like any contact. Disappointing for sure as I expected him to have a good year. Still may but sure didn’t show it tonight. 

[1onemangang7]

Josh dont know that its his ***** backfield mate that causes defenses to own his ass.  He thinks he's screwing up...it's the scheme...they are ruining this team. 

[Roundybout]

Eh, again I want to see more of a sample size. The Jets defense is just absurdly good.

 

Let me see a couple more games with him as lead back. 

[Simon]

He was getting better at it toward the end of last year.

Maybe he just needs a little more time to get hard.

Zip it, Sherlock.....

[zow2]

1 minute ago, WEATHER DOT COM said:

Murray is going to be the lead back within a couple of weeks.

 

I definitely want to see more Damien Harris and Murray mixed in. They are professional RBs.  Cook is a nice change of pace, he so slight though, goes down as soon as he’s touched by anyone, even a weak arm tackle. 

If he’s in open space and untouched then sure he’s a weapon.

[Mrbojanglezs]

He's fast but has skinny legs

[Mr. WEO]

He looks like a middle schooler competing in punt pass kick.  Guys tiny

[mannc]

He can never be your primary back…really just a third down back, but his unwillingness to pass block makes even that questionable 

[1onemangang7]

1 minute ago, Roundybout said:

Eh, again I want to see more of a sample size. The Jets defense is just absurdly good.

 

Let me see a couple more games with him as lead back. 

if you want to win, youre gonna run into a few absurdly good defenses.  Lets be happy beating up on the Texans, shall we?

[CountDorkula]

I’m a huge Georgia Stan so I like Cook but he’s a pass catching back morn than a workhorse back. He’s never going to be break tackle guy. He will get you the big plays with his speed if he has a good size hole to run through. 
 

he’s going to have a 3-4 year career here and then they will move on. 
 

RB doesn’t matter, until it does. 

[Royale with Cheese]

Yes, he can break tackles and gets yards after contact.  Everyone is being so dramatic.

 

12 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

https://thedraftnetwork.com/james-cook-more-snaps-buffalo-bills/

 

Cook has been particularly elusive. The former Georgia standout is averaging 2.99 yards after contact per attempt and has forced 16 missed tackles, per Pro Football Focus. A big play waiting to happen, Cook has accounted for 11 explosive (10-plus yards) gains as a ball-carrier. Four of Cook’s 11 explosive rushes have occurred in Buffalo’s last two games.

 

[BurpleBull]

Need to pull up Cook's draft day thread and check folk.

 

Can't be mad now, he was never that guy and folk seemed real content with that not being part of the package.

[Scott7975]

I think the run game itself is just poor design.  A lot of the runs cook is off to the side.  Josh runs all the way over to him and hands him the ball.  It's hugely telegraphed. Also its hard to take off with the ball from a practically dead stop.

[1onemangang7]

Dude wasnt on the field when they had to drive for the tie...so why play that way until you get yourself in trouble?

Edited September 12, 2023 by 1onemangang7

[mannc]

4 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Eh, again I want to see more of a sample size. The Jets defense is just absurdly good.

 

Let me see a couple more games with him as lead back. 

Unfortunately, you won’t get to see him play against the Bills run defense.

[Roundybout]

3 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said:

if you want to win, youre gonna run into a few absurdly good defenses.  Lets be happy beating up on the Texans, shall we?

Sure but that doesn’t mean he isn’t good. Remember how we bottled up Henry last season? Or guys like Aaron Jones?

[1onemangang7]

1 minute ago, Roundybout said:

Sure but that doesn’t mean he isn’t good. Remember how we bottled up Henry last season? Or guys like Aaron Jones?

I dont understand your point.  They arent even trying to bottle this guy up. They dont have to.  You bottle up Henry or jones and you expose something else.  get a clue or dont reply to me

[Roundybout]

Just now, 1onemangang7 said:

I dont understand your point.  They arent even trying to bottle this guy up. They dont have to.  You bottle up Henry or jones and you expose something else.  get a clue or dont reply to me

My point is one game doesn’t matter. Especially with a relative unknown like Cook. The Jets defense is absurdly good and I want more of a sample size of Cook as RB1.

[buffalonian]

Cook had a good game. This post is really misfocused.