Random talking head says something about the Bills

[LABILLBACKER]

15 minutes ago, ***** said:

I actually really like this idea.  We need a stud kicker and the lack of one has kept us out of the SB before. 

I'd give a 3rd round pick for Aubrey.  Bass or Prater are likely not here next year.

[BigDingus]

It sounds stupid, but given what we've spent 2nd round picks on in the past, it'd be a better use of the pick than most.

 

2019 - Cody Ford 

2020 - AJ Epenesa

2021 - Boogie Basham

2024 - Cole Bishop

2025 - TJ Sanders

 

I'd take Aubrey over any of those guys, though TJ still has a chance to be good.

 

He's also not wrong how good it would be to add a kicker like Aubrey. I'm sure we can all remember missed FGs that hurt us in the past. We also wouldn't have to go for it on 4th so often if we knew Aubrey was back there to kick from anywhere. 

 

Would I prefer they could find a CB or WR? Definitely. But it's unlikely we'd find anyone near the top of their position like we would Aubrey, plus their contracts would be more expensive.

[BillsFanForever19]

1 hour ago, zow2 said:

Today, Nick Wright said if you’re the Buffalo Bills and this close to a Super Bowl, they should offer a 2nd round pick for Brandon Aubrey. His thinking how the Bills would only need to get to the 50 yard like then have the best closer in the NFL. They’d be unstoppable. 

 

A 2nd Round Pick.... for a Kicker? 

 

[BillsFanForever19]

On 9/22/2025 at 11:04 PM, BigDingus said:

It sounds stupid, but given what we've spent 2nd round picks on in the past, it'd be a better use of the pick than most.

 

2019 - Cody Ford 

2020 - AJ Epenesa

2021 - Boogie Basham

2024 - Cole Bishop

2025 - TJ Sanders

 

I'd take Aubrey over any of those guys, though TJ still has a chance to be good.

 

He's also not wrong how good it would be to add a kicker like Aubrey. I'm sure we can all remember missed FGs that hurt us in the past. We also wouldn't have to go for it on 4th so often if we knew Aubrey was back there to kick from anywhere. 

 

Would I prefer they could find a CB or WR? Definitely. But it's unlikely we'd find anyone near the top of their position like we would Aubrey, plus their contracts would be more expensive.

 

Love how you left out Dion Dawkins, James Cook, O'Cyrus Torrence, and Keon Coleman to fit your narrative 🙄

 

And if Sanders still has the potential to be good, which goes without saying bc judging a player as a Rookie, let alone one that's only 3 games into their NFL career is crazy - why include them in your list along guys like Basham and Ford?

 

I don't even think it's fair to call Bishop a Bust yet. He's just getting his first starts as a full time starter now.

 

And AJ Epenesa hasn't been terrible return for the caliber of Defensive End you would find at the bottom of Round 2. You're not likely to find a Superstar at DE with Pick 54 - the 6th End off the board.

Edited September 24 by BillsFanForever19

[BigDingus]

7 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Love how you left out James Cook and O'Cyrus Torrence to fit your narrative 🙄

 

And if Sanders still has the potential to be good, which goes without saying bc judging a player as a Rookie, let alone one that's only 3 games into their NFL career is crazy - why include them in your list along guys like Basham and Ford?

 

I don't even think it's fair to call Bishop a Bust yet.

 

Of course I left them off, because those were clearly good uses of our 2nd round picks.... Did you read my post at all? The point wasn't we've NEVER had a good 2nd round pick, only that we've wasted plenty of them on players not as valuable as Aubrey is.

 

I listed the years next to each pick, so it's clear I wasn't trying to hide it to "fit a narrative" (unless you think I magically forgot years 2022 & 2023 exist). Did we, or did we not, spend 2nd round picks on the players I listed? 

 

Are ANY of them top 2 players at their position like Aubrey? Do we want to win THIS year, or do you want to wait a couple more seasons to see if Sanders or Bishop pan out? 

 

Because the point was we've wasted 2nd round picks on worse things before. I'm not worried about what a 2nd round 2026 might do in the 2026 season, especially given how likely it is that they end up being nothing special. Meanwhile, Aubrey is ALREADY special. 

 

If someone told me right now I could get Brandon Aubrey for Cole Bishop straight up, I'd take it. But clearly you think Bishop (or Sanders) will help us win a Super Bowl THIS year. 

[SoTier]

12 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Love how you left out James Cook and O'Cyrus Torrence to fit your narrative 🙄

 

And if Sanders still has the potential to be good, which goes without saying bc judging a player as a Rookie, let alone one that's only 3 games into their NFL career is crazy - why include them in your list along guys like Basham and Ford?

 

I don't even think it's fair to call Bishop a Bust yet. He's just getting his first starts now.

 

And AJ Epenesa hasn't been terrible return for the caliber of Defensive End you would find at the bottom of Round 2.

 

Facts are pesky critters.

[BillsFanForever19]

On 9/23/2025 at 12:39 AM, BigDingus said:

 

Of course I left them off, because those were clearly good uses of our 2nd round picks.... Did you read my post at all? The point wasn't we've NEVER had a good 2nd round pick, only that we've wasted plenty of them on players not as valuable as Aubrey is.

 

I listed the years next to each pick, so it's clear I wasn't trying to hide it to "fit a narrative" (unless you think I magically forgot years 2022 & 2023 exist). Did we, or did we not, spend 2nd round picks on the players I listed? 

 

Are ANY of them top 2 players at their position like Aubrey? Do we want to win THIS year, or do you want to wait a couple more seasons to see if Sanders or Bishop pan out? 

 

Because the point was we've wasted 2nd round picks on worse things before. I'm not worried about what a 2nd round 2026 might do in the 2026 season, especially given how likely it is that they end up being nothing special. Meanwhile, Aubrey is ALREADY special. 

 

If someone told me right now I could get Brandon Aubrey for Cole Bishop straight up, I'd take it. But clearly you think Bishop (or Sanders) will help us win a Super Bowl THIS year. 

 

Yes, I read your post. Saying "better than most" and than creating a list of just the "bad" and omitting the good is misleading.

 

And as I said, I don't think a number of those players listed are fair to be deemed poor usage of a 2nd.

 

It's *way* too soon to judge TJ Sanders. He's played a total of 3 games. Cole Bishop has had 3 games as a full time starter.

 

And again, with Epenesa we've gotten pretty decent return for the kind of Defensive End that you're going to find with a pick at the bottom of Round 2.

 

If you take a look at the list of DE's active in the NFL who were taken in Round 2, you're going to be hard pressed to find something more than what he's been for us. Which is a decent 3rd in the rotation.

 

When you take into account Dion Dawkins, James Cook, O'Cyrus Torrence, and Keon Coleman in conjunction with guys like Sanders and Bishop who it's too early to rule on and Epenesa who you got decent return on investment for the position where he was picked - our 2nd Round selections haven't been the albatross people like to make it out to be.

 

In fact, it's probably better than a lot of teams track records there over a 9 year period. We bring in other teams 2nd year busts at WR on a yearly basis (Hamler, Isabella, Shenault). Hell, we just signed the Commanders 2nd Round Pick from 2022 to our Practice Squad.

Edited September 24 by BillsFanForever19

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

39 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

 

Of course I left them off, because those were clearly good uses of our 2nd round picks.... Did you read my post at all? The point wasn't we've NEVER had a good 2nd round pick, only that we've wasted plenty of them on players not as valuable as Aubrey is.

 

I listed the years next to each pick, so it's clear I wasn't trying to hide it to "fit a narrative" (unless you think I magically forgot years 2022 & 2023 exist). Did we, or did we not, spend 2nd round picks on the players I listed? 

 

Are ANY of them top 2 players at their position like Aubrey? Do we want to win THIS year, or do you want to wait a couple more seasons to see if Sanders or Bishop pan out? 

 

Because the point was we've wasted 2nd round picks on worse things before. I'm not worried about what a 2nd round 2026 might do in the 2026 season, especially given how likely it is that they end up being nothing special. Meanwhile, Aubrey is ALREADY special. 

 

If someone told me right now I could get Brandon Aubrey for Cole Bishop straight up, I'd take it. But clearly you think Bishop (or Sanders) will help us win a Super Bowl THIS year. 

Kickers scare the sh*t out of me.   you’d have to trade an early pick and make him the highest paid kicker in the league while eating the bass contract and despite all that he could get the yips at literally any moment 😂. 

Edited September 23 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[HappyDays]

I usually just scroll on past this stuff but this is the worst take I've seen in a while, from one of the guys that started Football Outsiders:

 

In case you can't see the whole tweet:

 

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That's because Josh Allen got his OC fired in 2023 because of turnovers. And the new guy's plan to fix that is to feature Allen less, run the ball better, give him better protection than ever, and don't force the ball to any one WR (Diggs).

 

It's so annoying we have to pretend this is MVP QB play and not call it for what it is.

 

[CSBill]

On 9/22/2025 at 9:45 PM, zow2 said:

Today, Nick Wright said if you’re the Buffalo Bills and this close to a Super Bowl, they should offer a 2nd round pick for Brandon Aubrey. His thinking how the Bills would only need to get to the 50 yard like then have the best closer in the NFL. They’d be unstoppable. 

One of the few times I 💯% agree with Nick Wrong.

 

My hot take: yes! I would definitely trade a number 2 pick for this phenom.

 

Or maybe invest some money in better scouts who did not recommend we sign him when he was booming kicks in the USFL (and when several TBD people were yelling for BB to go get him). 
 

Aubrey to the Bills! Get it done, Brandon. 

[H2o]

On 9/22/2025 at 9:45 PM, zow2 said:

Today, Nick Wright said if you’re the Buffalo Bills and this close to a Super Bowl, they should offer a 2nd round pick for Brandon Aubrey. His thinking how the Bills would only need to get to the 50 yard like then have the best closer in the NFL. They’d be unstoppable. 

Found this when I did an Aubrey search :

 

Cowboys Superstar Kicker Brandon Aubrey is being evaluated for a long-term medical condition. Many medical experts believe “he got that dawg in him”. A recovery from said condition is unknown and he might have to deal with it for the rest of his life.

 

[dcinmuncie]

On 9/15/2025 at 12:29 PM, JESSEFEFFER said:

I think those JA texts that were dropped just prior to the draft sort of Josh in a certain bucket in the minds of some. Once there, it's tough to change.   Not sure about this particular person and their reputation but I always thought this:

 

1)  If we were all to be judged by what our 15 year old selves said about any particular  topic, we'd all be put in the idiot bucket.  

 

2)  Whoever dropped that information to the press, probably hoped Josh would fall in the draft to come to their pick.  Wild if that helped the Bills get him.  Even wilder if the Bills somehow made that happen.

Nothing but pure speculation on my part but this has always been my theory.

 

whenever something damaging is released about a first round prospect right before the draft, my number one suspect is always the team that drafts them. Trying to spook other interested parties 

[No_Matter_What]

On 9/23/2025 at 6:24 AM, BillsFanForever19 said:

And AJ Epenesa hasn't been terrible return for the caliber of Defensive End you would find at the bottom of Round 2. You're not likely to find a Superstar at DE with Pick 54 - the 6th End off the board.

Agreed. I'd say that AJE has lived up to his draft status. People love to hate him but he has delivered exactly what you'd expect from player picked in 50s. Lower-end DE2 or very solid DE3 with 6 sacks a year.

[zow2]

The national talking heads have taken notice of the Bills poor 3rd down defense against decent QBs.  A couple shows today talked about that aspect of the Bills that will hold them back from winning a SB.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

On 9/22/2025 at 10:22 PM, LABILLBACKER said:

I'd give a 3rd round pick for Aubrey.  Bass or Prater are likely not here next year.

Aubrey isn’t either unless you extend him for like 8 mil a year to be fair.  That man is gonna get a huge contract for a kicker 

Edited September 24 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[GoBills808]

13 hours ago, HappyDays said:

I usually just scroll on past this stuff but this is the worst take I've seen in a while, from one of the guys that started Football Outsiders:

 

In case you can't see the whole tweet:

 

 

he's a chiefs guy

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

54 minutes ago, zow2 said:

The national talking heads have taken notice of the Bills poor 3rd down defense against decent QBs.  A couple shows today talked about that aspect of the Bills that will hold them back from winning a SB.

Bills defense is in such a weird spot as far as trying to evaluate them goes.  I don’t think people read into the Baltimore game too much because the Baltimore offense is really good and people don’t read into the jets game at all because the jets offense is really bad 

 

so it really all comes down to the Miami game and Miami is straight up bizarre.  Even when they get destroyed it feels like they’re converting 50-60% of their third downs.  Then in some of their wins it’s all big plays and they convert like 25% of their third downs 😂I don’t understand that team at all.  They’re number 1 in third down conversion rate right now and still top 5 if you remove the bills game 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

he's a chiefs guy

He’s an idiot guy 😂. I still think Josh was the 2023 mvp and guys like this didn’t vote for him because ‘turnovers’ now he is turning the ball over at historically low levels and apparently his game is still a problem?

[H2o]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

he's a chiefs guy

Ahhhh, so he's mad we DIDN'T keep Dorsey at the helm and switched to Brady. 

[RobbRiddick]

4 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

He’s an idiot guy 😂. I still think Josh was the 2023 mvp and guys like this didn’t vote for him because ‘turnovers’ now he is turning the ball over at historically low levels and apparently his game is still a problem?

When Josh throws a single int these same people will shout "and there's the real Josh Allen", as though he should go 17 games without a pick.