Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: And there’s your problem…you’re thinking way too hard and looking way too deep. 😉 Life is pretty simple really. tell it to Aristotle and his ideas on what makes a good knife "A broader and still more pervasive fallacy underlies Aristotle's ethics. It is the idea that an investigation of human nature can reveal what we ought to do. For Aristotle, an examination of a knife would reveal that its distinctive quality is to cut, and from this we could conclude that a good knife would be a knife that cuts well. In the same way, an examination of human nature should reveal the distinctive quality of human beings, and from this we should be able to conclude what it is to be a good human being. This line of thought makes sense if we think, as Aristotle did, that the Universe as a whole has a purpose and that we exist as part of such a goal-directed scheme of things, but its error becomes glaring once we reject this view and come to see our existence as the result of a blind process of evolution." Do you find FLW designs simple? The Guggenheim for example. Was it worth the effort? Edited August 24, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Since everyone has that opportunity, why not do the civics test? I have plenty of reasons but do you actually need me to lay them out? Do you actually think a national civics test is a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoCal Deek Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: tell it to Aristotle and his ideas on what makes a good knife "A broader and still more pervasive fallacy underlies Aristotle's ethics. It is the idea that an investigation of human nature can reveal what we ought to do. For Aristotle, an examination of a knife would reveal that its distinctive quality is to cut, and from this we could conclude that a good knife would be a knife that cuts well. In the same way, an examination of human nature should reveal the distinctive quality of human beings, and from this we should be able to conclude what it is to be a good human being. This line of thought makes sense if we think, as Aristotle did, that the Universe as a whole has a purpose and that we exist as part of such a goal-directed scheme of things, but its error becomes glaring once we reject this view and come to see our existence as the result of a blind process of evolution." Do you find FLW designs simple? The Guggenheim for example. Was it worth the effort? I honestly thought this had autocorrected the word “life” into “knife”. Try it….it sort of works. 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: think deeper. Open your horizons Is it not OK to make money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Give it up Doc… this is nothing but pure blatant racism on display here today. I’m utterly disgusted! I don't care about the racism. As usual its rooted in ignorance. Just explaining the real story from someone who has been there, not someone who has no clue what he's talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pokebball said: Is it not OK to make money? Hell, yes it is. Who said it wasn't? I just believe that some redistribution is needed when !% has 50% of the wealth (close enough- not positive of the exact number) and people are listening to the Richmond song as an anthem...https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/richest-1-bag-nearly-twice-much-wealth-rest-world-put-together-over-past-two-years#. Do I want to give money away? No. My tax rate is high. But I'm no where near the top 1% in the US and many of them find safe harbors. Owning yachts and golf courses and islands is just ridiculous imo. Maybe I'm crazy but there are others who agree. Edited August 24, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Hell, yes it is. Who said it wasn't? I just believe that some redistribution is needed when !% has 50% of the wealth (close enough- not positive of the exact number) and people are listening to the Richmond song as an anthem... Redistribution is not the most important issue. Who determines the redistribution is. Look at the "happiest" nations of 2023. !. Finland 2. Denmark 3. Iceland 4. Israel 5. Netherlands 6. Sweden 7. Norway 8. Switzerland See a trend there? See the obvious? It is obvious that countries that have a higher degree of homogeneous populations are perceived as "happier." The US is incredibly non homogeneous and people don't like decisions about where the money goes being made by people they don't like, ie.,a despised Congress. Look at the incredible amount of success that US religious charity has enjoyed. Far more effective than gov programs Know why? Because it's decided to be targeted at known destinations. Humans, especially Americans, are remarkably generous at redistribution. They just can't stand that redistribution being decided by others, so when they lose the ability to decide, they oppose it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, sherpa said: Redistribution is not the most important issue. Who determines the redistribution is. Look at the "happiest" nations of 2023. !. Finland 2. Denmark 3. Iceland 4. Israel 5. Netherlands 6. Sweden 7. Norway 8. Switzerland See a trend there? See the obvious? It is obvious that countries that have a higher degree of homogeneous populations are perceived as "happier." The US is incredibly non homogeneous and people don't like decisions about where the money goes being made by people they don't like, ie.,a despised Congress. Look at the incredible amount of success that US religious charity has enjoyed. Far more effective than gov programs Know why? Because it's decided to be targeted at known destinations. Humans, especially Americans, are remarkably generous at redistribution. They just can't stand that redistribution being decided by others, so when they lose the ability to decide, they oppose it. Dude, at least half of those countries are the model for Bernie Sanders. Switzerland had a referendum on maxing out compensation that narrowly went down. But they are weird folk...I'll be accused of virtue signaling but check out the RAM clinics in Appalachia. My toothless jokes are justified. People wait hours to have teeth pulled by volunteers many of whom are students. Edited August 24, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Dude, at least half of those countries are the model for Bernie Sanders. Switzerland had a referendum on maxing out compensation that narrowly went down. But they are weird folk... Never work here. Neither would Bernie. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, sherpa said: Never work here. Neither would Bernie. Neither will civil unrest (from poor on both sides) and a constitutional crisis...I'll bet Marie Antoinette would rethink her words if able. Edited August 24, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doc said: I don't care about the racism. As usual its rooted in ignorance. Just explaining the real story from someone who has been there, not someone who has no clue what he's talking about. C'mon Raj, you know I have some idea. maybe not yours, but an idea....the name is a guess. The guy I mentioned is named Anoop...great guy and solid citizen. Need more like him. Edited August 24, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 22 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: always the dumbass state argument lol. Local government is in the drivers seat. So now do Baltimore. Start with crime and schools. gawd you people are soooo controlled by illogical narratives. So easy to keep in your place 😂 Pretty sure the local governments in all those craptastic states are GOP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 24, 2023 Author Share Posted August 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, TH3 said: Pretty sure the local governments in all those craptastic states are GOP Hoax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoCal Deek Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Hell, yes it is. Who said it wasn't? I just believe that some redistribution is needed when !% has 50% of the wealth (close enough- not positive of the exact number) and people are listening to the Richmond song as an anthem...https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/richest-1-bag-nearly-twice-much-wealth-rest-world-put-together-over-past-two-years#. Do I want to give money away? No. My tax rate is high. But I'm no where near the top 1% in the US and many of them find safe harbors. Owning yachts and golf courses and islands is just ridiculous imo. Maybe I'm crazy but there are others who agree. I see. So you want OTHER people to pay more in taxes. Figures. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 (edited) This seems a good strategy. It's true and will resonate. Getting more impressed. I think I could live with her....as president. https://www.foxnews.com/media/stephanopoulos-snaps-nikki-haley-saying-biden-wont-finish-term-excuse-me-how-do-you-know Edited August 25, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: This seems a good strategy. It's true and will resonate. Getting more impressed. I think I could live with her....as president. https://www.foxnews.com/media/stephanopoulos-snaps-nikki-haley-saying-biden-wont-finish-term-excuse-me-how-do-you-know I disagree with her on a few issues, but would easily take her over Biden… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I disagree with her on a few issues, but would easily take her over Biden… I think she can win independents and suburban voters. I don't think she can win the primary but I'm hoping I'm wrong. Biden IS too old and she's more moderate than any other candidates I've seen. Her foreign policy pragmatism is a big plus. we want to avoid nuclear annihilation...Also she would redefine the R's with a win. This is what she's selling and it's good product. But will the core buy it? Edited August 25, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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