QCity Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 When the Levi breaks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayg Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Just checked the score. What a joke. I didn't think they'd win the cup this year but this is pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, QCity said: When the Levi breaks. Cryin' won't help you, prayin' wont do you no good.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, BillsPride12 said: Yep. Watched the first period but I'm not pissing away the rest of my night watching this type of game yet again. After scrolling through here a little I am putting on Christmas shows the rest of the night. Made the right move 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 The GM with zero nhl executive experience, predictably, has failed. The coach with no nhl head coaching experience has failed. The team again finds themselves at the depths of the drought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 As Sabres’ play hits crisis levels, they need to take accountability. They’re not. "Honor and accountability are revered sentiments in hockey more than any other sport. Yet when the dressing room door opened to reporters after the game, six players — none a defenseman — were at their stalls. One of those still there, Alex Tuch, was willing to talk but couldn’t, having taken a puck to the mouth. Two-thirds of his teammates had ducked out." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Hopping in here to ask how that pipeline is looking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Isles fan here so I don't follow the Sabres to closely. Last year 42-33-7 for 91 points. What the hell happened here. I thought the Sabres were going to be like the Devils of last year and have an outstanding regular season with a trip to the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Getting smoked by a bottom 5 team in the NHL… 🤮 although the Sabres aren’t that far from the bottom 5 themselves. They currently sit 8th last. So, pretty much same as always. This season clearly wasn’t “all about winning”. They added nothing meaningful to the roster in the offseason and banked on “internal growth” even though pretty much every player on the roster had career years last season. What were the chances of not only repeating that, but bettering it? Eventually Adams is going to have to do something meaningful. His only meaningful trade was Eichel and Reinhart, but both of those he was forced to make. and if these players truly love Granato as much as they say, they better start showing it because their play is going to get him fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 (edited) If they fire Granato who is interim HC? I don't think they can possibly promote from within. Is Ted Nolan available to come back for 6 months and then get fired again? Power had an absolutely brutal night. As did Tage, Tuch, and fourth line. That was one of the worst performances I have witnessed in this era of futility. Edited December 20, 2023 by Jauronimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Gregg said: When asked, "did this team quit?", Okposo says, "I don't think we quit." Wait, I don't think we quit?? If you didn't quit, you say 'We didn't quit'! He's sounds defeated, which is almost as bad. This team has regressed to 2-3 years ago. They had a spark at the end of last year, but that's been quickly squashed! Back to garbage time again. Infuriating! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 54 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: If they fire Granato who is interim HC? I don't think they can possibly promote from within. Is Ted Nolan available to come back for 6 months and then get fired again? Power had an absolutely brutal night. As did Tage, Tuch, and fourth line. That was one of the worst performances I have witnessed in this era of futility. I would bet it will be from within. Maybe Appert from Rochester or Ellis as the interim. They will pound their chests at a 14-14-5 finish and remove the interim tag 4th of July week without any real signs of a coaching search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: If they fire Granato who is interim HC? I don't think they can possibly promote from within. Is Ted Nolan available to come back for 6 months and then get fired again? Power had an absolutely brutal night. As did Tage, Tuch, and fourth line. That was one of the worst performances I have witnessed in this era of futility. What about Berube who got fired from STL? He at least has won a cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Bray Wyatt said: What about Berube who got fired from STL? He at least has won a cup And he did it as an interim HC at mid-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 8 hours ago, Fleezoid said: When asked, "did this team quit?", Okposo says, "I don't think we quit." Wait, I don't think we quit?? If you didn't quit, you say 'We didn't quit'! He's sounds defeated, which is almost as bad. This team has regressed to 2-3 years ago. They had a spark at the end of last year, but that's been quickly squashed! Back to garbage time again. Infuriating! Didn’t like his comments at all. Guy shouldn’t even be playing let alone wearing the C. Time to nuke it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Dylan called out Sabres for being soft, and paid for it with a broken jaw. Kevin Adams didn't like Dylan's truth. Bulldog says he is calling out Adams today when he interviews him. Sabres are soft. FU Adams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 10 hours ago, billsfanmiamioh said: Didn’t like his comments at all. Guy shouldn’t even be playing let alone wearing the C. Time to nuke it The team is not playing well but Okposo handled the interview well and even if his skills are dwindling, he is every bit a captain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 How does a team with this much talent underachieve this way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: The team is not playing well but Okposo handled the interview well and even if his skills are dwindling, he is every bit a captain. Calling out the fans, passing off the blame and not admitting they quit was “handling it well?”. They got absolutely smoked at home by a horrible team. The defensive effort was worse than my men’s league team. He’s a Chris Kelsay. Nice guy but a career loser who’s made a lot of money but hasn’t really done anything to justify it. 4 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: How does a team with this much talent underachieve this way? I think in the true Buffalo fashion, we overvalue some of our talent. Sure they have some young, offensive firepower but that’s it. Too many of them show flashes but have no consistency. Nobody knows how to play defense and we have no capable goaltending night in and night out. Many nights they simply have no effort or urgency. Points to bad coaching and poor roster construction. They teased us with last year but they are still fundamentally broken. Time to make big changes but I don’t see it happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 I know as Bills fans many (me included) have called for McDermott to be fired when things weren't going well. But Granato really should be fired. The Sabres have too much talent as they proved last year to be playing like this. Didn't Craig Berube get fired recently from the Blues. He actually won a Cup with them. Why not give him a call. A new voice behind the bench is definitely needed though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, billsfanmiamioh said: Calling out the fans, passing off the blame and not admitting they quit was “handling it well?”. They got absolutely smoked at home by a horrible team. The defensive effort was worse than my men’s league team. He’s a Chris Kelsay. Nice guy but a career loser who’s made a lot of money but hasn’t really done anything to justify it. I think in the true Buffalo fashion, we overvalue some of our talent. Sure they have some young, offensive firepower but that’s it. Too many of them show flashes but have no consistency. Nobody knows how to play defense and we have no capable goaltending night in and night out. Many nights they simply have no effort or urgency. Points to bad coaching and poor roster construction. They teased us with last year but they are still fundamentally broken. Time to make big changes but I don’t see it happening. I disagree with you on our goaltending. Both Levi and UPL have been solid. (Comrie not so much.) But Domenic Hasek couldn't save this team the way it plays defense at times. Remember how we all said Linus Ullmark sucked? How did he do once he got to Boston? He won a Vezina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: I disagree with you on our goaltending. Both Levi and UPL have been solid. (Comrie not so much.) But Domenic Hasek couldn't save this team the way it plays defense at times. Remember how we all said Linus Ullmark sucked? How did he do once he got to Boston? He won a Vezina. I think the majority thought Ullmark was good. Maybe even a/the franchise goalie. The thing with him and his free agency was that he was going to demand long term and some dollars, the Sabres would likely need to slightly overpay, and he had a dubious injury history to that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/5-candidates-who-can-replace-don-granato-as-next-sabres-head-coach/ar-AA1lNYlK?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=7727ed23c6f9430fb276a821ee4e02e2&ei=19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 3 hours ago, billsfanmiamioh said: Calling out the fans, passing off the blame and not admitting they quit was “handling it well?”. They got absolutely smoked at home by a horrible team. The defensive effort was worse than my men’s league team. He’s a Chris Kelsay. Nice guy but a career loser who’s made a lot of money but hasn’t really done anything to justify it. I think in the true Buffalo fashion, we overvalue some of our talent. Sure they have some young, offensive firepower but that’s it. Too many of them show flashes but have no consistency. Nobody knows how to play defense and we have no capable goaltending night in and night out. Many nights they simply have no effort or urgency. Points to bad coaching and poor roster construction. They teased us with last year but they are still fundamentally broken. Time to make big changes but I don’t see it happening. In the linked clip he did not call out the fans in any way. He said he understood. The reporter said something about it looking like the team quit. He disagreed with the reporter in a direct but respectful way. Completely professional. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: I disagree with you on our goaltending. Both Levi and UPL have been solid. (Comrie not so much.) But Domenic Hasek couldn't save this team the way it plays defense at times. Remember how we all said Linus Ullmark sucked? How did he do once he got to Boston? He won a Vezina. Ullmark never sucked here. Whoever said that was wrong. https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/u/ullmali01.html He was in the .913 to .917 sv% area, something Buffalo hasn’t even come close to matching since he left, and it’s not like Buffalo played good team defense while Ullmark was here either. Ullmark’s worst ever season in Buffalo was a .905 sv% one season. That .905 is still better than anything we’ve had since he left. I believe the best save % Buffalo has seen since he left was .901 from Craig Anderson one season in light duty spot starts (not a true starter’s workload like Ullmark). Otherwise, all of Buffalo’s goalies have been consistently in the sub-.900 sv% area year in and year out since Ullmark left. currently, all 3 of our goalies once again sit in the .800’s this season. That’s well below league average. We haven’t had anything close to league average since Ullmark. and he wanted to stay here + was very well liked in the room. Adams let him walk over a couple/few extra years of term. To replace him with…. 🤷♂️ 3 hours ago, May Day 10 said: I think the majority thought Ullmark was good. Maybe even a/the franchise goalie. The thing with him and his free agency was that he was going to demand long term and some dollars, the Sabres would likely need to slightly overpay, and he had a dubious injury history to that point. From the reports I read, Ullmark wanted to stay but wanted a 5 or 6yr deal. Adams was only willing to go 2-3 years. seems incredibly stupid to me to let him walk over 2-3 years of term when you had nobody to replace him with. But hey, he saved Terry a few bucks right? lol edit - sorry, as you can all probably tell, I am not in a good place with the Sabres right now. I think I probably need to stop watching again for a while. Just so bummed to see them back to looking like a joke. This was the first time I was legitimately looking forward to the Sabres season in years. Edited December 21, 2023 by BillsFan4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, May Day 10 said: I think the majority thought Ullmark was good. Maybe even a/the franchise goalie. The thing with him and his free agency was that he was going to demand long term and some dollars, the Sabres would likely need to slightly overpay, and he had a dubious injury history to that point. I don't know. Everyone in SabreSpace was certain Ullmark was trash in game day threads. And they're never wrong. Edited December 21, 2023 by PromoTheRobot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Gregg said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/5-candidates-who-can-replace-don-granato-as-next-sabres-head-coach/ar-AA1lNYlK?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=7727ed23c6f9430fb276a821ee4e02e2&ei=19 I'd welcome Berube or Gallant, what we have now is clearly not working. This team has far more talent than the Flyers but Torts has those guys ready to skate through walls and look at their record. Adams needs to be looked at as well - the man moves at a glacial pace. His plan to sit back and wait for all these kids to grow up into NHL players is dubious at best. We've learned from Tim Murray that you can't rush a rebuild and now it feels like the opposite is happening with Adams stalling his rebuild. Edited December 21, 2023 by QCity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 What's the over/under for tonight's game. 15.5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Fleezoid said: What's the over/under for tonight's game. 15.5? No, that's the spread..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Fleezoid said: What's the over/under for tonight's game. 15.5? It's 12.5 right now... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Kyle with 2 unassisted, one a shorty and leading the team in hits. Seems like they're finally playing like they mean it but it actually sort of pisses me off that it's taken this many games and hard questions to finally get that kind of effort from them. Wonder how long it will continue... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 1 hour ago, QCity said: It's 12.5 right now... I'm more right than I thought. For all the wrong reasons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 22 minutes ago, Simon said: Kyle with 2 unassisted, one a shorty and leading the team in hits. Seems like they're finally playing like they mean it but it actually sort of pisses me off that it's taken this many games and hard questions to finally get that kind of effort from them. Wonder how long it will continue... It’s the weirdest thing I’ve ever seen. Crush some top end team, get destroyed, lather, rinse, repeat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Soooo, Greenway and Skinner? The magic formula? The Sabres bipolar continues. (It's crap I have to say this, but for those that say i'm slighting the disorder, it's just a reference. I know someone will take offense) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 If they wanna impress me do it again on Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 So who had the Sabres hanging 9 on the Leafs? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 I figured the Sabres would come out with some fire after all the embarrassment. And Samsonov... woof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 11 hours ago, Simon said: Kyle with 2 unassisted, one a shorty and leading the team in hits. Seems like they're finally playing like they mean it but it actually sort of pisses me off that it's taken this many games and hard questions to finally get that kind of effort from them. Wonder how long it will continue... I thoroughly expect the Sabres to give up 6 first period goals in their next outing. They have no concept of momentum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: I thoroughly expect the Sabres to give up 6 first period goals in their next outing. They have no concept of momentum. Yup...until they prove otherwise this is how I feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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