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[T&C]

Didn't see a thread like this for this season... small topics that don't need a whole thread.

 

Calvin Ridley is back... but with the Jags. They gave up really nothing to get him either.

 

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/ap-online/2023/04/19/jags-ridley-thinks-he-could-be-better-after-lengthy-layoff

[T&C]

imo... he is an idiot for trying to proceed any further. Get into something football related but don't take anymore hits.. because you have to know they are coming. From Rotoworld:

 

Tua Tagovailoa said he considered retirement after suffering multiple brain injuries in 2022. 

Tagovailoa, 25, sustained at least two, possibly three concussions during the 2022 season, including one that left him motionless on the field. “Yeah, I think I considered it, you know, for a time, having sat down with my family, having sat down with my wife and having those kind of conversations,” Tagovailoa said. “Really, it would be hard for me to walk away from this game with how old I am, with my son. I always dreamed of growing — playing as long as I could to where my son knew exactly what he was watching his dad do. Yeah, I mean it’s my health, it’s my body. I feel like this is what’s best for me and my family." The Dolphins in March picked up Tua's fifth-year option, and it appears he'll be good to go for the 2023 season, unless or until he sustains another brain injury. Rotoworld's Denny Carter recently wrote about Tagovailoa's efficiency during his first year in Mike McDaniel's offense. 

SOURCE: ProFootballTalk.com
Apr 20, 2023, 8:26 AM ET

[NewEra]

I dub this thread T&C’s Diary 

[TBBills Fan]

April 20th, 2023

 

Dear Diary

 

Ricky Williams stole the cookies I left for Snoop Dog.  I never liked him and like him even less now

 

Snoop D O double G came by and was not happy, since i promised girl scout cookies.

 

So we smoked a blunt and watched GMFNB for a while, and got sad about not seeing HeyKay Adams

 

We both agreed Beane needs to make D-Hop a Bill

 

 

Edited April 20, 2023 by TBBills Fan

[T&C]

14 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I dub this thread T&C’s Diary 

Asked about coming out of retirement and playing for the Dolphins at a conference, Tom Brady did not directly answer the question. 

What he actually said was: "I will say now that I'm not affiliated with any team anymore, even though I have strong ties with a couple teams, I do have some friends on the Dolphins that I really like. So, I wouldn’t say I necessarily root for them all the time, but I root for my friends to do well, and several of them play for Miami.” I's going to take a stronger denial from Brady on this question -- especially given how the Dolphins lost their first-round pick secretly trying to recruit him -- before we're ready to call it completely on his chances of unretiring. Tua Tagovailoa's revelation that he contemplated retirement only adds to the potential smoke. 

SOURCE: Pro Football Talk on NBCSports.com
Apr 20, 2023, 2:18 PM ET

[Gregg]

 

[T&C]

On 4/20/2023 at 2:44 PM, NewEra said:

I dub this thread T&C’s Diary 

Raiders GM Dave Ziegler said RB Josh Jacobs has not signed his franchise tag and will not participate in the voluntary offseason program.
Jacobs is not allowed to participate in the voluntary offseason program until he signs his franchise tag or the two sides agree on a long-term contract. He previously said he was willing to play on the franchise tag but only if the Raiders added extra talent around him. The team has since added Jakobi Meyers. Ziegler said they are working through "that situation" with Jacobs but didn't seem concerned by the matter. For now, we expect Jacobs to play out the 2023 season on the tag and hit the open market next offseason.

 

SOURCE: Paul Gutierrez on Twitter
Apr 21, 2023, 3:43 PM ET

[T&C]

On 4/20/2023 at 2:44 PM, NewEra said:

I dub this thread T&C’s Diary 

Browns GM Andrew Berry said the team is open to re-signing free agent RB Kareem Hunt.

Hunt has struggled for interest coming off a career low 2022, with the running back not visiting with any teams this offseason. The 27-year-old will likely have to wait until after the draft to sign. There are reports the Browns were concerned with Hunt's speed slipping last season. The Browns, who have Jerome Ford and Demetric Felton behind Nick Chubb, have yet to sign anyone to replace Hunt.

 

RELATED: Cleveland Browns
SOURCE: Akron Beacon Journal
Apr 22, 2023, 10:49 AM ET

[frostbitmic]

On 4/20/2023 at 3:00 PM, T&C said:

Asked about coming out of retirement and playing for the Dolphins at a conference, Tom Brady did not directly answer the question. 

What he actually said was: "I will say now that I'm not affiliated with any team anymore, even though I have strong ties with a couple teams, I do have some friends on the Dolphins that I really like. So, I wouldn’t say I necessarily root for them all the time, but I root for my friends to do well, and several of them play for Miami.” I's going to take a stronger denial from Brady on this question -- especially given how the Dolphins lost their first-round pick secretly trying to recruit him -- before we're ready to call it completely on his chances of unretiring. Tua Tagovailoa's revelation that he contemplated retirement only adds to the potential smoke. 

SOURCE: Pro Football Talk on NBCSports.com
Apr 20, 2023, 2:18 PM ET

Brady bought a stake in the Las Vegas WNBA team, Will his number be on the short list when Jimmy G gets hurt again in Vegas ?

 

Or, he'll be a Dolphin after Tua's brain sloshes around in his skull again.

[T&C]

2 hours ago, frostbitmic said:

Brady bought a stake in the Las Vegas WNBA team, Will his number be on the short list when Jimmy G gets hurt again in Vegas ?

 

Or, he'll be a Dolphin after Tua's brain sloshes around in his skull again.

I don't think he actually owned any property here in Tampa so I guess he is free to do whatever as is a given. A stake in the WNBA is like tossing money into the wind so you may be on to something.

 

Tua should just pack up his bags and move on to something non contact imo...

[T&C]

On 4/20/2023 at 2:44 PM, NewEra said:

I dub this thread T&C’s Diary 

The Athletic's Dan Duggan reports the Giants have given no indication they want to extend contract-year CB Adoree Jackson.
The Giants current plan is to let Jackson, who signed a three-year, $39 million deal in 2021, play out the final year of his contract. Jackson has missed 11 games the last two years but has produced when healthy, posting 113 tackles, an interception, and 15 PBUs. Franchising RB Saquon Barkley and not picking up Daniel Jones' option last offseason has cost the Giants, with Jones and Barkley accounting for 15% of the cap. Jackson will head back to free agency as a 28-year-old next offseason if the Giants don't extend him.

 

SOURCE: The Athletic
Apr 23, 2023, 11:11 AM ET

[T&C]

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Jets are expected to sign Randall Cobb, formerly of the Packers. 

Cobb is the latest Rodgers buddy to make the trip from Green Bay to New York, along with Allen Lazard and Marcedes Lewis. Rodgers had Packers brass bring Cobb, nearly 33, back to the Packers in 2021 after Cobb spent two years away from Green Bay, playing for the Cowboys and Texans. Cobb in 2022 caught 34 passes in 13 games, operating as the Packers' primary slot guy. He'll compete with Mecole Hardman for slot snaps this season. Rodgers will tell Jets coaches exactly how to deploy Cobb, along with every other offensive player. We're monitoring the status of Donald Driver and James Jones. 

SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter
May 3, 2023, 8:49 AM ET

[SydneyBillsFan]

Jets have declined the $13.5 million fifth year option on OT Mekhi Becton. Despite the knee injury I am a little surprised by this. He has apparently lost a lot of weight.

[Warcodered]

21 minutes ago, T&C said:

Rodgers will tell Jets coaches exactly how to deploy Cobb, along with every other offensive player.

Well it's not like they're going to rely on Hackett.

[BuffaloBillyG]

23 minutes ago, T&C said:

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Jets are expected to sign Randall Cobb, formerly of the Packers. 

Cobb is the latest Rodgers buddy to make the trip from Green Bay to New York, along with Allen Lazard and Marcedes Lewis. Rodgers had Packers brass bring Cobb, nearly 33, back to the Packers in 2021 after Cobb spent two years away from Green Bay, playing for the Cowboys and Texans. Cobb in 2022 caught 34 passes in 13 games, operating as the Packers' primary slot guy. He'll compete with Mecole Hardman for slot snaps this season. Rodgers will tell Jets coaches exactly how to deploy Cobb, along with every other offensive player. We're monitoring the status of Donald Driver and James Jones. 

SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter
May 3, 2023, 8:49 AM ET

Anything that might take targets away from Wilson is welcome. I seriously think they have downgraded at the receiver position to appease Rodgers. If they plug Carr into what they had last year I think they would have been better off and kept some premium draft capital. And I'm no Carr fan.

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, SydneyBillsFan said:

Jets have declined the $13.5 million fifth year option on OT Mekhi Becton. Despite the knee injury I am a little surprised by this. He has apparently lost a lot of weight.

You’re surprised?  He’s been as close to worthless as a player can get.  He’s played in 1 game over the last 2 seasons.  

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Anything that might take targets away from Wilson is welcome. I seriously think they have downgraded at the receiver position to appease Rodgers. If they plug Carr into what they had last year I think they would have been better off and kept some premium draft capital. And I'm no Carr fan.

 

Jets had their chance to be up there with KC, BUF and CIN long term, but lost that opportunity when they won a meaningless game and handed Jacksonville Trevor Lawrence.

 

Due to that franchise altering moment, they had 3 options this off-season:

 

Stick with Wilson.  Likely have an elite team around a bad QB.  Miss the playoffs. 

 

Sign Carr.  Become a perennial WC team for the length of his contract.  That's it.  I don't care how good of a team they could put around Carr, he isn't going to be able to take the Jets through the AFC gauntlet and beat 2 of 3 (Mahomes, Allen, Burrow) in the playoffs to get to the Super Bowl. 

 

Sign Rodgers.  Take, what they hope to be, a 2 year window at a Super Bowl.  Mortgage your franchise future to absord his contract and go for it.. worry about the '25 season when we get there.  

 

We see what they've chosen.  I can't say they were right or wrong.  It's tough though, because they've pushed present and future chips in on a guy who's great, but at-best, the 4th greatest QB in the Conference. 

[Warcodered]

5 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Jets had their chance to be up there with KC, BUF and CIN long term, but lost that opportunity when they won a meaningless game and handed Jacksonville Trevor Lawrence.

 

Due to that franchise altering moment, they had 3 options this off-season:

 

Stick with Wilson.  Likely have an elite team around a bad QB.  Miss the playoffs. 

 

Sign Carr.  Become a perennial WC team for the length of his contract.  That's it.  I don't care how good of a team they could put around Carr, he isn't going to be able to take the Jets through the AFC gauntlet and beat 2 of 3 (Mahomes, Allen, Burrow) in the playoffs to get to the Super Bowl. 

 

Sign Rodgers.  Take, what they hope to be, a 2 year window at a Super Bowl.  Mortgage your franchise future to absord his contract and go for it.. worry about the '25 season when we get there.  

 

We see what they've chosen.  I can't say they were right or wrong.  It's tough though, because they've pushed present and future chips in on a guy who's great, but at-best, the 4th greatest QB in the Conference. 

Yeah if it doesn't work they're going to be looking down the barrel of a bunch of 1st round picks all looking for their 5th year/extension.

[BuffaloBillyG]

23 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Jets had their chance to be up there with KC, BUF and CIN long term, but lost that opportunity when they won a meaningless game and handed Jacksonville Trevor Lawrence.

 

Due to that franchise altering moment, they had 3 options this off-season:

 

Stick with Wilson.  Likely have an elite team around a bad QB.  Miss the playoffs. 

 

Sign Carr.  Become a perennial WC team for the length of his contract.  That's it.  I don't care how good of a team they could put around Carr, he isn't going to be able to take the Jets through the AFC gauntlet and beat 2 of 3 (Mahomes, Allen, Burrow) in the playoffs to get to the Super Bowl. 

 

Sign Rodgers.  Take, what they hope to be, a 2 year window at a Super Bowl.  Mortgage your franchise future to absord his contract and go for it.. worry about the '25 season when we get there.  

 

We see what they've chosen.  I can't say they were right or wrong.  It's tough though, because they've pushed present and future chips in on a guy who's great, but at-best, the 4th greatest QB in the Conference. 

Re: The sign Carr route. 

 

They easily could have doubled down with QB in the 1st next year and move on from Wilson next year with that route. Now it becomes stickier should Rodgers not rebound or decide that he's done after this year. They likely won't have a 1st. They will be stuck with that talented young roster and... something else that is likely short term. At least Carr bides them time. Also, agree that Carr isn't going to lead a team past all of the top 3 QBs...but he may not have to. One will get knocked off by one of the other two most likely. After that...anything can happen.

 

The bad part is if rumors are correct and it was the owner that pushed for Rodgers while Coach/GM wanted Carr and Rodgers fails...coach and GM won't possibly be around to see that next QB. They pushed all in on this year...and I don't think it was the right move at all. Time will tell.

[Success]

It's hard to tell if the Jets will really be significantly better w/ Rodgers.

 

Certainly, bad QB play held them back last year.  And their defense is stellar.

 

But will a 40 year old Rodgers be that hard to defend?  He's not aging quite like Brady, who was still playing at a VERY high level at that age.  And he couldn't do anything w/ Green Bay the past couple of years.  

 

I'm concerned, but not really freaking out.  I wish a HOF QB hadn't come to the AFCE - but I still feel like we can sweep that team w/ the improvements we've made this offseason.

 

[T&C]

3 hours ago, Warcodered said:

Well it's not like they're going to rely on Hackett.

Lol, the "I've been everywhere" man... forgot he was with the Jets this go around.

[Gregg]

Bengals get their backup QB.

 

Aaron Wilson on Twitter: "#Bengals make it official with Trevor Siemian" / Twitter

[T&C]

NFL owners passed a vote to allow Thursday Night Football flex scheduling.

Thursday Night Football had been the only primetime spot not subject to flex scheduling late in the season. The passed vote allows the league to manipulate all primetime games late in the season, effectively removing the potential for poor matchups. It seems like another money grab idea predicated on satiating the paying broadcast companies after Amazon purchased the rights to Thursday Night Football for $1 billion this season. While there are strict rules in place as to which teams can flex into the Thursday Night Football game, the new rule could be viewed as detrimental to the competitive integrity of the game, particularly considering the increased magnitude of late season games.

May 22, 2023, 6:16 PM ET

[Chicken Boo]

Watching everything unfold with Austin Ekeler and the Chargers is amusing to me.

 

Watch how Herbert "regresses" in 2024 without a top 3 dual threat back.  

[TheWeatherMan]

Old QBs are such a major gamble, especially at $50M per.

Edited May 23, 2023 by TheWeatherMan

[Captain Hindsight]

9 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

Old QBs are such a major gamble, especially at $50M per.

Oh no

 

Anyway…

[T&C]

The Athletic's Kalyn Kahler reports the NFL is investigating a fifth Lions player who may have violated the league's gambling policy. 

The player under investigation, according to Kahler, is not a prominent member of the team. That likely means the player is not fantasy relevant. This is the team's latest potential violation of strict gambling-related rules implemented by the league in recent years. In April, safety C.J. Moore and wide receiver Quintez Cephus received indefinite suspensions for betting on NFL games, and wide receivers Jameson Williams and Stanley Berryhill received six-game suspensions for placing bets on other sports while at the Lions facility. Williams later said the team had not informed him of the NFL's rules around gambling. 

 

SOURCE: The Athletic
May 26, 2023, 10:49 AM ET

[JerseyBills]

On 5/3/2023 at 11:15 AM, NewEra said:

You’re surprised?  He’s been as close to worthless as a player can get.  He’s played in 1 game over the last 2 seasons.  

Yea a huge bust. They got 38 y.o Duane Brown likely to start. 

 

I guess cause I'm in the nyc area and listen to wfan and ESPN on the road, the Jests hype and Buffalo disrespect is starting to get to me. I can't stand it , everytime I listen,  hosts and callers are talking SB . Saying Bills peaked and will be way worse, just so much nonsense it's nauseating . This team has the longest playoff drought as well as not having a winning record in a decade. Rodgers won 8 games in a bad division and conference , and him alone is going to propel a 7 win team into a SB? Can't stand it

On 5/23/2023 at 3:25 PM, Captain Hindsight said:

Oh no

 

Anyway…

And Lazzard went down and didn't return,  not that he's a serious threat

[NewEra]

4 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Yea a huge bust. They got 38 y.o Duane Brown likely to start. 

 

I guess cause I'm in the nyc area and listen to wfan and ESPN on the road, the Jests hype and Buffalo disrespect is starting to get to me. I can't stand it , everytime I listen,  hosts and callers are talking SB . Saying Bills peaked and will be way worse, just so much nonsense it's nauseating . This team has the longest playoff drought as well as not having a winning record in a decade. Rodgers won 8 games in a bad division and conference , and him alone is going to propel a 7 win team into a SB? Can't stand it

And Lazzard went down and didn't return,  not that he's a serious threat

Yeah it’s nauseating for sure.
 

That nausea will turn to laughter when Zach is under center due to Rodgers getting destroyed.

 

 

[JerseyBills]

Just now, NewEra said:

Yeah it’s nauseating for sure.
 

That nausea will turn to laughter when Zach is under center due to Rodgers getting destroyed.

 

 

Oh ya I can't wait , I think it'll be similar to the Rams game last year. Kyle Allen will be slinging the rock by mid 4th qtr. I just expect Buf to come in feeling disrespected and dominate that lower franchise 

[T&C]

Jon Gruden visited the Saints to "assist in the installation of their offense" with Derek Carr.

Gruden, per Vic Tatur of The Athletic, "still holds out hope of coaching again" after he was forced to resign from his job with the Raiders. This appears to be a trial balloon to the idea of Gruden coming back after offensive e-mails surfaced during the NFL's unrelated investigation of workplace harassment with the Washington Commanders. Gruden would probably have better odds trying to come back as an underling, but it remains unlikely that an NFL team will actually hire him. 

 

RELATED: New Orleans Saints
SOURCE: The Athletic
May 26, 2023, 5:13 PM ET

[T&C]

Profootballtalk's Mike Florio reports Jimmy Garoppolo can be released without penalty by the Raiders this summer because of his 2022 foot injury.

 
Garoppolo's deal originally included an $11.25 million signing bonus, but that was converted to part of his base salary after he failed his Raiders physical this spring. Garoppolo can be cut for "any reason" related to his foot, but his $22.5 million salary becomes guaranteed once he "passes a physical exam, is active for at least one regular-season game, and does not suffer re-injury to his left foot." It would certainly seem Garoppolo's physical was most disturbing to the Silver and Black. What was already looking like a questionable signing now has the makings of a potential fiasco. 

SOURCE: Profootballtalk on NBCSports.com
May 28, 2023, 9:31 AM ET

[JerseyBills]

39 years old and loves Taylor Swift😂😂

 

He did an interview , wfan played some parts, He knew every album and song . Just very odd to me. 

[T&C]

Evan Engram was not spotted not at the Jaguars' voluntary OTAs.

NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported in April that Engram wasn't expected to participate in voluntary workouts as he and the Jaguars look to reach an agreement on a long-term extension. Engram was franchise tagged by the Jaguars earlier this offseason, but GM Trent Baalke has already expressed confidence in the two sides working out a deal. Engram posted a career-high 766 receiving yards on his one-year prove-it deal with the Jags and was leaned on heavily during the season's final two months. He'll have some low-end TE1 upside this season and is a threat to go off for a big game on any given week.

 

SOURCE: Demetrius Harvey on Twitter
May 30, 2023, 11:32 AM ET

[The Wiz]

This has to be a joke that they are doing during the media days right?

 

 

 

[T&C]

1 hour ago, The Wiz said:

This has to be a joke that they are doing during the media days right?

 

 

 

Lol... the local news is on and they were gushing over these two. Carolina should take that division this year but maybe NO will make it interesting. 

[Jay_Fixit]

On 4/20/2023 at 11:44 AM, NewEra said:

I dub this thread T&C’s Diary 

At least it’s not T&C’s moderating.

 

Which we all know is terrible.

[T&C]

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/sports/2023/06/12/bucs-to-celebrate--creamsicle--uniform-era-for-1-game-in-fall