Wacka Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 27 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: it's not deranged to despise a treasonous scumbag. Or the monolithic party that genuflects to him. When I hear treasonous scumbag, I think of Biden and his CCP connected/crackhead son Hunter. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 1 hour ago, ChiGoose said: Paragraph 7 of the statement of facts: ”During and in furtherance of his candidacy for President, the Defendant and others agreed to identify and suppress negative stories about him. Two parties to this agreement have admitted to committing illegal conduct in connection with the scheme. In August 2018, Lawyer A pleaded guilty to two federal crimes involving illegal campaign contributions, and subsequently served time in prison. In addition, in August 2018, American Media, Inc. (“AMI”), a media company that owned and published magazines and supermarket tabloids including the National Enquirer, admitted in a non-prosecution agreement that it made a payment to a source of a story to ensure that the source “did not publicize damaging allegations” about the Defendant “before the 2016 presidential election and thereby influence that election.”” So, violations of election laws. Good luck proving that. The problem for the DA is the payment had nothing to do with the campaign. It was of a personal nature, wasn't campaign money, and would have been made absent the election regardless. Such as not wanting his wife to know which is common in these situations. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: @redtail hawk might have @BillStime beat for TDS lunacy. Imagine that quack having anything to do with your personal health? Aren’t you tired of all this winning? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Good luck proving that. The problem for the DA is the payment had nothing to do with the campaign. It was of a personal nature, wasn't campaign money, and would have been made absent the election regardless. Such as not wanting his wife to know which is common in these situations. That’s the John Edwards defense that got him off on a similar charge. The difference here is that the terms of the NDAs seem be that they expired after the election. They also have testimony that Trump told them to delay making one of the payments because if they delay it to the election, they won’t have to pay at all. Those seem like fairy damming facts that might convince a jury that the payments weren’t about keeping the story from his wife. All of that being said, this is the weakest case Trump is facing. I don’t think it’s as weak as people on PPP seem to (the DA has a good chance here), but it’s not the slam dunk cases that we will see from Jack Smith and Fani Willis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 On 3/30/2023 at 5:55 PM, Tiberius said: This is the biggest political ***** show ever talk about political theater . This DA needs to be fired to run in a election and say that he intended to do what ever he could to make this BS happen & now do it is pure 100% BS !! It's okay for him to catch and release murderers along with other criminals yet he has to spend up to $2 million of tax payers money to shut down the streets of NY & have all those NYC police officers taken off the street to go to this S**T show now that's NY state justice at it's finest !! Talk about a liberal bunch of BS this is it besides the statue of limitations has run out on most all of these BS charges . 12 minutes ago, BillStime said: Aren’t you tired of all this winning? Just a bunch of political theater BS & you are swallowing it hook line and sinker so that makes you as freakin big a dip sh*t as the NYC - DA !! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 1 minute ago, T master said: This is the biggest political ***** show ever talk about political theater . This DA needs to be fired to run in a election and say that he intended to do what ever he could to make this BS happen & now do it is pure 100% BS !! It's okay for him to catch and release murderers along with other criminals yet he has to spend up to $2 million of tax payers money to shut down the streets of NY & have all those NYC police officers taken off the street to go to this S**T show now that's NY state justice at it's finest !! Talk about a liberal bunch of BS this is it besides the statue of limitations has run out on most all of these BS charges . Thanks for summarizing Trump’s speech tonight! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Just now, BillStime said: Thanks for summarizing Trump’s speech tonight! Your welcome !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 It takes a lot of cognitive dissonance to think this isn't political. I also think it's funny that the GOP defense is he probably broke the law like many wealthy/powerful people but we live in a system where getting away with it has become normalized so he's only being charged because of who he is. That system is part of why he was elected president in the first place. Get your popcorn ready. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 2 hours ago, BillStime said: Full display alright: Wasn't that taken at the home opener? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 4 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: And will win without the 2020 because covid rigging... Well we all know Tuck would never lie or pander to you, his base. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Wacka said: When I hear treasonous scumbag, I think of Biden and his CCP connected/crackhead son Hunter. of course you do. You're the scarecrow singing "if I only had a brain". 9 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: @redtail hawk might have @BillStime beat for TDS lunacy. Imagine that quack having anything to do with your personal health? And yet someone calling himself "Doc" here for years wouldn't accept my EKG challenge...perhaps we could compare board scores? Edited April 5, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 9 hours ago, Doc said: Again, that was the worst insurrection ever. No weapons and they all left before dinner. And overturning the 2020 election would have been a favor to us all. Instead we have this shitshow of an Admin. yeah, who cares if he broke the law. It's who we fascists wanted to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, ChiGoose said: That’s the John Edwards defense that got him off on a similar charge. The difference here is that the terms of the NDAs seem be that they expired after the election. They also have testimony that Trump told them to delay making one of the payments because if they delay it to the election, they won’t have to pay at all. Those seem like fairy damming facts that might convince a jury that the payments weren’t about keeping the story from his wife. All of that being said, this is the weakest case Trump is facing. I don’t think it’s as weak as people on PPP seem to (the DA has a good chance here), but it’s not the slam dunk cases that we will see from Jack Smith and Fani Willis. The thing is, attempting to influence an election is what its all about. Because all candidates and their campaigns by the nature of the political process, operate with the purpose of influencing the outcome of the election. Either things they do, or do not do. This is how it works. Otherwise, an NDA is not illegal. And making payments per the NDA terms and conditions is not illegal and no campaign money was involved.. And not revealing the terms and conditions or contents of the NDA is not illegal. Revealing it would defeat the purpose of the agreement. And there are rights to privacy affording citizens like the 4th Amendment. As for testimony on delaying payments. Is there some directive in writing? Or is the delay documented as part of the NDA agreement? Because generally, "he said that he said" 2nd or 3rd hand type testimony can pass muster in grand jury actions where prosecutors charges are typically approved by the grand jury but in criminal court legally regarded as hearsay. If Bragg wants to find somebody looking to influence an election, then he should look in the mirror. But we all already know that's the game here. Or maybe arrest the 51 former intelligence community members that influenced the 2020 election when they lied about the origins of the Hunter Biden laptop being Russian disinformation when they (and the FBI) knew the truth that it was authentic. Nobody's doing time for that one. Edited April 5, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 (edited) MAGA pinup https://www.aol.com/news/protesters-fight-over-trump-lies-182231431.html This hag is reason enough to avoid the red tribe. Unless you are blind or want your progeny to be ugly, coarse and stupid. I'd prefer to rub shoulders with Natalie Portman or Taylor Swift but different strokes for different folks... Edited April 5, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Lindsey Graham is collecting donations for the orange guy in his time of great need. It’s time for all you fanboys to open up your wallets and give him your credit card number for your recurring monthly donations. It’s up to you. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: MAGA pinup https://www.aol.com/news/protesters-fight-over-trump-lies-182231431.html This hag is reason enough to avoid the red tribe. Unless you are blind or want your progeny to be ugly, coarse and stupid. I'd prefer to rub shoulders with Natalie Portman or Taylor Swift but different strokes for different folks... Weird flex simping for celebs. You can keep your actual life liberal women.. Conservative women tend to be far more attractive and far happier. Side note: Every woman I’ve met off Tinder or Bumble that says she’s liberal, somehow agrees with me on almost every political topic. So, at the very least, your side is easily turned. Now the polyamorous, overweight, openly vocal about abortion rights and the patriarchy… yea, those are all yours. Have fun with that. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 22 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said: I guess Melania was too busy to make the trip yesterday Where's Barron these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted April 5, 2023 Author Share Posted April 5, 2023 (edited) Great Dershowitz interview at the very beginning of the show. Explains why Trump can't get fair treatment in Manhattan, what happened to him personally in his liberal social circles when he represented Trump during impeachment, why the misdemeanor is made up, the reality of TDS and why "whataboutism" is legitimate, and why any first year law student could win this case on appeal. Edited April 5, 2023 by BillsFanNC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 26 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Great Dershowitz interview at the very beginning of the show. Explains why Trump can't get fair treatment in Manhattan, what happened to him personally in his liberal social circles when he represented Trump during impeachment, why the misdemeanor is made up, the reality of TDS and why "whataboutism" is legitimate, and why any first year law student could win this case on appeal. Im starting to believe the theory that Bragg brought this because of the Trump world decision he got a few months ago. He knows his case is bs, but he also knows he has the most biased and prejudiced juror base in the country. This should just reinforce the need for the further Balkanization of America. If you’re a conservative, why live or do business in places that hate you? Hopefully R DA’s do the same to those in the left. Mutually assured destruction is our only way through this after Bragg decided to light the match. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, SCBills said: Weird flex simping for celebs. yes, and having an affair with a porn star isn't weird at all.... very sophisticated and classy Edited April 5, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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