Beane End of Year Presser

[Reed83HOF]

23 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

The Hines comments are ridiculous. How long did it take McCaffrey to get up to speed with the 49ers?

Or that Cincy's DC was able to call the perfect defense against our offense 66% of the time! Just think about what has to occur for that to happen....

 

and you are telling me that Hines could not get up to speed quick enough?

[ArtVandalay]

6 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

On Diggs:  A lot like Steve Smith Jr.   Fiery, wears his emotions on his sleeve.   He isnt here just to collect his paycheck, even though he gets paid well he still shows up and cares.  We all have warts.   But Stef cares a ton.

So tired of this leadership constantly comparing everything and worshiping a Panthers franchise that never won Jack. Just stop already. 

[Reed83HOF]

1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

McBeane would have stood pat with Higgins and not drafted Chase.  

 

Zero doubt in my mind they would have gone with Jaycee Horn or Patrick Surtain II.  There's nothing about their past drafts that suggest otherwise.  

Who is directing Beane about what positions are valued and needed for the team?

[newcam2012]

9 hours ago, Southern_Bills said:

I wonder what happened to the years when we had the advantage of having a QB on a rookie contract...oh that's right Beane and McDermott couldn't get it done then either.

I wish someone had some gonads to say that to his face. Beane knows his team is on the downward swing. He hasn't tell the media or the fans this. He gave us a bunch of horse crap today. 

Edited January 25, 2023 by newcam2012

[Reed83HOF]

31 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Our media really is gutless.

 

I remember one teams reporters actually mocked our reporters (2021 season?) for the softball questions. Maybe it was the Boston reporters? Anyone remember?

Is this a superbowl offense?

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

9 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

These are all good points, but there is a difference in regular season vs playoffs - this staff after the past 3 years is not playoff caliber. We also didn't have Von last year and Jerry =/= Von. The DL even with the injuries was better this year than last year, those DT and Ends were straight up trash. We didn't have Tre in the playoffs last year and, serious question, what impact would Hyde have based on the gameplan against Cincy?

 

Now, if we lined up and played with a good gameplan and lost, it is easier to go down the path you are on, which I truly do understand.

 

Blitzing Burrow, who everyone knew the ball was getting out in less than 3 seconds and who is great against the blitz and playing off the WRs? There was a blueprint for Miami by the Chargers, we didn't follow it. There were 3 games Balt played against Cincy, in the game right before we played, they hardly blitzed (again a blueprint) that we didn't follow either. Baltimore almost kicked them out with a backup QB and no one on offense.

 

 

 

 

 

 The gameplan is far different if Hyde & Von are playing, Poyer is relatively healthy and Tre's 90% or so. Injuries caused the game plan, it's been that way for a while now. No disguised coverages or anything. I know Poyer & Tre were playing, but neither were near full capacity. Add to that we were playing our #3 FS, no Jones, Phillips with only 1 arm.

 

 What team, that made the playoffs, could withstand 2 All-Pro players out, 2 more All-Pro players severely limited, another starter out and another with 1 arm all on 1 side of the ball and last for any length of time? 

 

 

 

[Slack_in_MA]

20 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said:

That was one of the worst Beane PCs I have watched.

 

We won 13 game guys... How many times did we hear that 

It's a fact. And we lost 3 regular season games by a total of 8 points. We stunk last Sunday and need to make improvements.

[Since1981]

Higgins=Daboll knew about him. Our OC couldn’t see it. 

I have concern for Kim and Terry. Then after I wonder if owner not ready or unable to make hard choices now. Choices take time, attention, stamina. Hard choices take even more. 

Edited January 25, 2023 by Since1981

[newcam2012]

6 hours ago, Process said:

Omg the excuses for Spencer Brown 🤣 

 

So far the press conference has been 100% excuses and zero accountability. 

 

Beane thinks the main reason we didn't win a Superbowl is because we didn't get into a groove at the right time. 

 

This is brutal.

Beans is insulting our intelligence. Placating us to the max. 

 

If core of coaches remain the Bills are going to disappoint again.

Edited January 25, 2023 by newcam2012

[Reed83HOF]

 

Ruben Brown's quick take

[newcam2012]

5 hours ago, LabattBlue said:

…and as I have stated before, this appears to be a case where the GM and the coaches are not on the same page. He was behind a great RB in Indy, yet came here and got less offensive touches than he was getting in Indy. 

 

 

They were saving him for next year. 

[ArtVandalay]

6 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

Coaching Staff.  We won 13 games.   Its like anything, easy to question.  Easy to question what Dorsey does.   Everyone is a Monday morning QB.   Not everything was perfect but both coordinators are pros.

Notice all the players get heat and criticism, but not the coaching staff, when it comes to coaches or gets turned around that the fans are being unreasonable. 

 

Holding leadership to a different (lesser) standard is poor leadership itself and poor culture. 

 

Pegula needs to step in because he's got a good ole boy network more concerned with protecting themselves than the team being successful. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

5 hours ago, Logic said:

This part really bothered me when Beane said it.

He was basically asked what he can take from the Bengals' build, and rather than state any one of the many obvious things that make the Bengals a good team -- strong up front on both sides of the ball, great wide receiver play, depth, etc -- he chose just about the worst possible answer.

To say that they "were lucky enough" to be "bad enough to get Ja'Marr Chase", he is essentially ducking accountability for still needing to be able to find difference makers later in round one and beyond. Lots of great NFL players -- receivers, especially -- are taken in late round one and beyond. For him to point to the "luck" of drafting high is to dodge the responsibility that he and his staff bare to find good players REGARDLESS of where in the draft they pick.

Yes, later in the interview he said that he and his staff need to hit on draft picks, but he's said that before. That's obvious. Those are just words. The "we don't pick early like the Bengals used to, so we're not getting a guy like that" and the insinuation of luck and high draft position as reasons for success were a bad look.

I mean is he really wrong? You’re not going to find a pro ready WR w/ elite measurables like Chase past the first 10 picks (realistically not even before the first 5) unless you luck out on some project guy like DK Metcalf. It’s infinitely tougher to get blue chip guys when you are drafting late every single. I do agree though that it’s no excuse. Good GMs work w/ what they got, but I am trying to cut him a little slack. 

[zow2]

Ah let’s face it,  last season they should have sh*t canned McDermott and hired offensive minded Daboll to be the head coach.  It’s a pipe dream of course but in retrospect he would’ve been a solid choice to transition away from McDungy.

[newcam2012]

54 minutes ago, Buffalo Ballin said:

You want him to say what we're truly thinking?

 

Beane: "Hey yo we suck ass, bruh. We're terrible, bruh. Our defense is ass. Our offense is Josh Allen going HAM, bruh. That's all we have. Bengals ate our faces off. I effed up with our defensive draft selections. Bit me all up in my ass, bruh. I don't draft wide receivers because Josh Allen makes Joe Blow from the Streets look good so there was no need to draft any receiver. So please pray for me. I mean, pray for us."

This isn't inaccurate...

[Big Blitz]

Just now, Slack_in_MA said:

It's a fact. And we lost 3 regular season games by a total of 8 points. We stunk last Sunday and need to make improvements.

 

Cant operate solely on prior success.  
 

He contradicted himself at the PC

 

Yea he said “we won 13 games.”

 

But then went on to say “won’t be active in FA…..going to lose some guys…..and it’s the end with this group - implying every season brings turn over.”

 

 

Now my guess is he meant “our process works.”  

 

Can’t disagree with that.  
 

But you can say that - then tell us we’ll continue to do everything we can; we’re going to address the mistakes made that starts with me.  And we’re going to be better.”

 

You don’t go out there and refuse to admit there is a gap with us and Cincy.  You can at least say something like yea they have a good team.  So do we.  We’ll be back.  

[Best Williams Available]

5 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Really defending Spencer Brown.  

He HAS to because he’s the idiot that took him from a small school even though he was unprepared to fill a glaring hole in the OL. How about draft an already good lineman from a real football school rather than playing a work-in-progress? You make every other work-in-progress sit and learn. This is pure deflection.

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

2 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

I mean is he really wrong? You’re not going to find a pro ready WR w/ elite measurables like Chase past the first 10 picks (realistically not even before the first 5) unless you luck out on some project guy like DK Metcalf. It’s infinitely tougher to get blue chip guys when you are drafting late every single. I do agree though that it’s no excuse. Good GMs work w/ what they got, but I am trying to cut him a little slack. 

 

 I would agree this correct most of the time, but just off the top of my head Jefferson went 22nd.

 

 

 

[LABILLBACKER]

10 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

So tired of this leadership constantly comparing everything and worshiping a Panthers franchise that never won Jack. Just stop already. 

This embarrassing obsession with a historically losing Panther organization is pathetic.  If the only players McD can obtain are Panthers, that speaks volumes as to his complete inability to find good players. I don't see Andy grabbing Eagle players. 

[Sherlock Holmes]

11 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

This embarrassing obsession with a historically losing Panther organization is pathetic.  If the only players McD can obtain are Panthers, that speaks volumes as to his complete inability to find good players. I don't see Andy grabbing Eagle players. 

Well then done ***** up when they could've had the greatest Panther of all...McCaffrey. Maybe he was too good of a player for us to acquire?

Edited January 25, 2023 by Sherlock Holmes