Jerry Sullivan crosses the line. Comments against women.

[HappyDays]

I hate how complicated everything has become. This is a really simple case. Jerry Sullivan publicly stated "women are the worst fans" in an era when more women watch football than ever before. He has female colleagues at every media outlet that employs him. Those media outlets have female readers. And it's not like Jerry Sullivan the lifelong troll is doing his part to bring in a train of new subscribers. So his employers have made the rather easy decision to part ways with him. No cancel culture or free speech violations here. This is basic capitalism in action.

[Einstein]

6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

We do lack people willing to ask the tough questions, agreed. But Jerry never asked tough questions that needed asking anyway. Just tough questions that fitted his little hobby horses. 

 

Can’t argue with that.

 

[May Day 10]

Im not even sure how anyone could figure out what he is saying there. The audio is so bad. Or even how anyone found that.


What the hell is that thing anyway? What a dweeb that one guy is trying so hard to get a "look". Belt over the shoulder, winter hat, sunglasses. ugh.

[BADOLBILZ]

3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

I hate how complicated everything has become. This is a really simple case. Jerry Sullivan publicly stated "women are the worst fans" in an era when more women watch football than ever before. He has female colleagues at every media outlet that employs him. Those media outlets have female readers. And it's not like Jerry Sullivan the lifelong troll is doing his part to bring in a train of new subscribers. So his employers have made the rather easy decision to part ways with him. No cancel culture or free speech violations here. This is basic capitalism in action.

 

 

I think it's pretty simple, really.  

 

The WNY sports media has been literally pointless/useless for many years........first totally neutered by the power wielded by sole ownership of both pro sports teams and then systematically weakened by the very limited earnings potential of the print/internet/radio media.

 

I'm surprised Niagara Gazette can still pay people so that they can even technically "fire" them.

 

Social media is our local sports media now.  

 

[Einstein]

I do kinda agree with him on this point. It is unfortunate that one stupid and offensive comment can ruin all the positives a person has done. That’s what bothers me with mob rule. Every single person lambasting Sullivan for his stupid comment has undoubtably said something equally as stupid and offensive in their life as well. And 99% of them did not lose their livelihoods over it.

 

 

[The Wiz]

4 minutes ago, Einstein said:

I do kinda agree with him on this point. It is unfortunate that one stupid and offensive comment can ruin all the positives a person has done. That’s what bothers me with mob rule. Every single person lambasting Sullivan for his stupid comment has undoubtably said something equally as stupid and offensive in their life as well. And 99% of them did not lose their livelihoods over it.

 

 

Of course we have. Everyone has. The difference is I'm not publicly belittling the people I'm suppose to be appealing to.

[clayboy54]

Really, it's not as much about "one stupid comment" as it is about years of stupid comments and antagonizing questions. His schtick went out with Coach Chuck Dickerson's name-calling and general misery.

 

Like just last postgame where Jerry asked Josh, “It doesn’t look like an offense that’s good enough to win a Super Bowl right now.” What a foolish "question". Did he expect to get Josh riled up or something? Jerry's just a clown in street clothes. He's right where he should be, unemployed, again.

[nucci]

9 minutes ago, Einstein said:

I do kinda agree with him on this point. It is unfortunate that one stupid and offensive comment can ruin all the positives a person has done. That’s what bothers me with mob rule. Every single person lambasting Sullivan for his stupid comment has undoubtably said something equally as stupid and offensive in their life as well. And 99% of them did not lose their livelihoods over it.

 

 

he's made more than one stupid comment

[The Wiz]

Just now, nucci said:

he's made more than one stupid comment

He's been a habitual line-stepper for as long as I can remember.  This time he crossed it and did it right after receiving national attention for saying "the team doesn't look like a super bowl team".

 

It makes me wonder, was he scheduled to be on that show before he made his comment or not?

[Einstein]

7 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Of course we have. Everyone has. The difference is I'm not publicly belittling the people I'm suppose to be appealing to.

 

True.

 

The rest of us have simply made our offensive comments in private. Not public.

 

That gives us the ability to pretend to have a moral high ground on this issue. Skeletons stay in the closet.

[ChevyVanMiller]

22 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

Im not even sure how anyone could figure out what he is saying there. The audio is so bad. Or even how anyone found that.


What the hell is that thing anyway? What a dweeb that one guy is trying so hard to get a "look". Belt over the shoulder, winter hat, sunglasses. ugh.

In fairness, their podcast is named Trainwreck.

[newcam2012]

16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

His employer didn’t want him representing them because of his sexist, embarrassingly incorrect public  comments so they fired him. Nothing to do with the 1st amendment. He’s free to say whatever he wants and will have a lot more time to do so. 

Agree. The employer has every legal right to fire him. However, the punishment sure does feel extreme. A heart felt apology by Jerry should have been enough. Imho, it's an overaction. I always liked Jerry because he often asked questions or made comments that others were afraid to make. There is worth and value in that. Look at the 13 seconds and how that was pretty much swept under the rug. Never would have happened in a market like Chicago, NY, or Philly. Coach McD and others would have been pressed and pressed until the media was given some resemblance of a credible answer. With Jerry gone, now there will be a happy circle jerk for everyone . 

 

Times have really changed. I remember the days as a kid when there was a good old fashioned fist fight. Not anymore. 

Edited December 14, 2022 by newcam2012

[nucci]

1 minute ago, newcam2012 said:

Agree. The employer has every legal right to fire him. However, the punishment sure does feel extreme. A heart felt apology by Jerry should have been enough. Imho, it's an overaction. I always liked Jerry because he often asked questions or made comments that others were afraid to make. There is some worth and value in that. Look at the 13 seconds and how that was pretty much swept under the rug. Never would have happened in a market like Chicago, NY, or Philly. Coach McD and others would have been pressed and pressed until the media was given some resemblance of a credible answer. With Jerry gone, now there will be a happy circle jerk for everyone . 

 

Times has really changed. I remember the days as a kid when there was good old fashioned fist fights. Not anymore. 

but he never really asked tough questions professionally...always with a smirk or smart ass comment to follow. There's a difference and he just wanted attention

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

24 minutes ago, Einstein said:

I do kinda agree with him on this point. It is unfortunate that one stupid and offensive comment can ruin all the positives a person has done. That’s what bothers me with mob rule. Every single person lambasting Sullivan for his stupid comment has undoubtably said something equally as stupid and offensive in their life as well. And 99% of them did not lose their livelihoods over it.

 

 

 

WHO WILL WRITE FOR THE WOMEN IF WE DONT HAVE JERRY

[clayboy54]

8 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

A heart felt apology by Jerry should have been enough.

Heartfelt and Jerry do not belong in the same discussion. He's a miserable aSS.

[The Wiz]

 

 

[WhoTom]

33 minutes ago, Einstein said:

The rest of us have simply made our offensive comments in private. Not public.

 

That gives us the ability to pretend to have a moral high ground on this issue. Skeletons stay in the closet.

 

There's a difference between what you can do in private and what you can do at work. If a person gets fired for being drunk on the job, you wouldn't defend them by saying, "The rest of us have simply gotten drunk in private. That gives us the ability to pretend to have a moral high ground on this issue."

 

Or would you?

 

 

Edited December 14, 2022 by WhoTom

[DJB]

 

[BRH]

1 hour ago, NUT said:

Nothing

 

Now if Steve Young said that, oh boy.

 

And what if Steve Young had used a word that is considered derogatory toward, say, Mormons?  What then?

 

Context matters.

 

1 hour ago, loyal2dagame said:

Huh, a journalist gets fired and pitchforked for saying something stupid which is protected by the First Amendment of the US Constitution.  

Isn't it ironic,  don't ya think. 

 

The First Amendment does not say what you think it says.

[newcam2012]

51 minutes ago, nucci said:

but he never really asked tough questions professionally...always with a smirk or smart ass comment to follow. There's a difference and he just wanted attention

I think he did both. His latest comment was a good example of what you are saying. Clearly, he could have asked Josh why do you think this offense is good enough to win the super Bowl? It's recent play indicates it might not be. Instead, he choose to give his opinion or comment without a question. Obviously, Jerry is a very smart journalist. This wasn't accidental. I'm not sure what his intentions were. 

 

As a fan of the Bills, I liked what Sullivan brought to the table. His articles were often very good, accurate, controversial, and created a buzz. He's really one of the few Buffalo journalists that was extremely critical of players and coaches. Perhaps, to a fault but I do believe what he did was benifical to fans. Brings me back to the days of Larry Felser. I'm showing my age here. I miss Larry and his opinions. I'm sure I will miss Sullivan's work as well. 

Edited December 14, 2022 by newcam2012