MJS Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Maybe you should be looking for advice from coach McDermott, not the other way around... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: It’s hard to take what the defense is giving you when McKenzie and singletary are consistently dropping dumpoffs lol I also think people underestimate how much the defensive line can disrupt the short passing game by flooding the passing lanes Agree on half of it. If we are speaking about dump offs than yes, a dline can mess it up. But the Bills desperately need to scheme in screens, swing passes and maybe try a wheel route here and there. Dorsey does none of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 5 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Really? It's not about 1976. Did you even WATCH Chiefs/Bengals, two playoff teams, and how they Bengals kept Mahomes on the sideline in their win? I guess not... it's 2022. https://theathletic.com/3969863/2022/12/05/chiefs-loss-bengals-patrick-mahomes/ The differences when those two teams play are the Bengals defense. The Rams won the Super Bowl last year with 41 passes and 23 runs. What year was last year again? Not 2022, but still pretty recent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 5 hours ago, streetkings01 said: Jets dline ate our oline up for lunch today……just be happy we got outta there with a dub! Problem is we didn’t stick with the run. And didn’t stick with the hot hand. Singletary wasn’t brilliant, but had a couple of good runs. As soon as he does, they put Cook in. Or worse, run Josh. To me, calling Josh’s number for runs is you don’t trust you backs. Another problem is our short passing game is toast. Couple these two and the dline doesn’t have much to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) We had maybe two good runs on first down and the rest resulted in second & 9. Tired hearing this. How about better blocking schemes, play calling and making catches and holding on to the ball when thrown to you? Edited December 12, 2022 by Billsfan1972 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) They haven't run the ball since McCoy left what makes you think they are going to start now? We haven't had a 100 yard rushing game by a running back in almost a year (1-2-22 vs Falcons). Edited December 12, 2022 by Nuncha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 10 hours ago, oldmanfan said: Call your OC into the office tomorrow, and tell him as HC you want to see the offense run the ball. And if he doesn’t want to call them, you will. McDermott: “Hey! Who’s the best player on our team?” Dorsey: “I don’t know… probably Josh?” McDermott: “And who’s one of the best players in the league?” Dorsey: “Josh? What’s your point?” McDermott: **looks off into the distance** “Then give the god d*mn ball to Devin Singletary more...” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: The differences when those two teams play are the Bengals defense. The Rams won the Super Bowl last year with 41 passes and 23 runs. What year was last year again? Not 2022, but still pretty recent. We have to beat the Chiefs or Bengals, not the Rams, in order to advance to even get to the Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: We have to beat the Chiefs or Bengals, not the Rams, in order to advance to even get to the Super Bowl. After beating the Pats and Jets and having watched the Dolphins lose last night so as to give the Bills a tighter grip on the Division I don’t think it’s too early to do this….looking at the current playoff seeding we’d possibly be hosting the Bengals or Ravens, and then the Chiefs at OP. Should we slip one spot, we’d be hosting the Chargers, then Bengals/Titans before going to Arrowhead…again. I’ll take my chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 11 hours ago, Big Turk said: I think he's got this and doesn't need some random dudes help on a message board. I don't know about that. I'm pretty sure he's on here this morning trying to figure out how to fix their 10-3 record. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 11 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: What happens if we go three and out every possession because our o-line can't run block? They run block a helluva lot better than they’ve been pass blocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 McD is my man. I think he’s been a great addition to the Bills. It’s not play calling. This guy just has something about him. He knows what he’s building Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 11 hours ago, oldmanfan said: Call your OC into the office tomorrow, and tell him as HC you want to see the offense run the ball. And if he doesn’t want to call them, you will. His OC’s response might be: “behind THIS offensive line?!” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: After beating the Pats and Jets and having watched the Dolphins lose last night so as to give the Bills a tighter grip on the Division I don’t think it’s too early to do this….looking at the current playoff seeding we’d possibly be hosting the Bengals or Ravens, and then the Chiefs at OP. Should we slip one spot, we’d be hosting the Chargers, then Bengals/Titans before going to Arrowhead…again. I’ll take my chances. Q: So do you think that the Bills won't have to play either the Chiefs or the Bengals in the playoffs? My point is that you have to keep the ball away from Mahomes and Burrow in order to get to the Super Bowl, and running the damn ball has a lot to do with it. Edited December 12, 2022 by EasternOHBillsFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: We had maybe two good runs on first down and the rest resulted in second & 9. Tired hearing this. How about better blocking schemes, play calling and making catches and holding on to the ball when thrown to you? I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with your statement, but I thought I’d take a look. Our 1st down plays: pass for 6 mckenzie run for 7 incomplete pass incomplete pass Josh allen run for 0 sacked Cook run for 1 pass for 5 motor run for 0 pass for 7 allen run for 11 Pass for 24 TD incomplete pass pass for 6 pass for 4 allen run for 5 TD Pass for 17 Pass for 9 11 passes- 8-12 all 8 comps were over 4 yards. 6 rushes- 3 of them were for 5 yards or more with 1 TD 4th qtr- with a 2 score lead- motor rush for 16 motor rush for 4 motor rush for 1 cook rush for -2 allen pass incomplete for the game- 11 rushes on 1st down- 5 we’re 4 yards or more. Our OL was getting obliterated in pass protection all day. Our in blocking isn’t “good” per say, but our pass blocking is atrocious, which is slightly worse than our playmakers ability to catch the ball. 2 things have to go right in the run game- run blocking and rb follow the blocks 4 things have to go right in the passing game- pass protection, accurate pass, pass target gain a little separation, pass target catch the dam ball. Putting all 3 together in the passing game has been rare of late. Ideally, I’d rather pass around 58% to run 42% but the pass game is clearly struggling to put together complete plays- it seems as if either the pass pro breaks down, Josh throws inaccurately or the pass target can’t get separation or drops the pass. In the last 7 games, he’s finished with a pass comp% under 60 4 times. We need to fix this- but can we fix that this season with a roster of WR (other than Diggs) that can’t be trusted? Can we fix OLmen that can’t pass block? If we can’t fix it this year, we can still win if we can figure out how to run the ball more effectively. That will help the pass protection and also force teams to bracket Diggs less. our defense is still very good. Good enough to win a SB with Josh allen and a balanced O. It just needs to figure out 3rd and long. Fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 46 minutes ago, NewEra said: They run block a helluva lot better than they’ve been pass blocking. That's not saying much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with your statement, but I thought I’d take a look. Our 1st down plays: pass for 6 mckenzie run for 7 incomplete pass incomplete pass Josh allen run for 0 sacked Cook run for 1 pass for 5 motor run for 0 pass for 7 allen run for 11 Pass for 24 TD incomplete pass pass for 6 pass for 4 allen run for 5 TD Pass for 17 Pass for 9 11 passes- 8-12 all 8 comps were over 4 yards. 6 rushes- 3 of them were for 5 yards or more with 1 TD 4th qtr- with a 2 score lead- motor rush for 16 motor rush for 4 motor rush for 1 cook rush for -2 allen pass incomplete for the game- 11 rushes on 1st down- 5 we’re 4 yards or more. Our OL was getting obliterated in pass protection all day. Our in blocking isn’t “good” per say, but our pass blocking is atrocious, which is slightly worse than our playmakers ability to catch the ball. 2 things have to go right in the run game- run blocking and rb follow the blocks 4 things have to go right in the passing game- pass protection, accurate pass, pass target gain a little separation, pass target catch the dam ball. Putting all 3 together in the passing game has been rare of late. Ideally, I’d rather pass around 58% to run 42% but the pass game is clearly struggling to put together complete plays- it seems as if either the pass pro breaks down, Josh throws inaccurately or the pass target can’t get separation or drops the pass. In the last 7 games, he’s finished with a pass comp% under 60 4 times. We need to fix this- but can we fix that this season with a roster of WR (other than Diggs) that can’t be trusted? Can we fix OLmen that can’t pass block? If we can’t fix it this year, we can still win if we can figure out how to run the ball more effectively. That will help the pass protection and also force teams to bracket Diggs less. our defense is still very good. Good enough to win a SB with Josh allen and a balanced O. It just needs to figure out 3rd and long. Fast. I went through that too (one was a McKenzie gadget play and another at least an Allen scramble).... My point was the OP loves the run game and makes this proclamation all the time (as opposed to me wanting 300 yard passing games he wants 200 yard rushing games😉). I'm not sure what the answer is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: That's not saying much. That’s the point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: I went through that too (one was a McKenzie gadget play and another at least an Allen scramble).... My point was the OP loves the run game and makes this proclamation all the time (as opposed to me wanting 300 yard passing games he wants 200 yard rushing games😉). I'm not sure what the answer is. We need a balance- period. Without it, this offense isn’t equipped to pass all game. We lack consistent playmakers in the pass game and our OL can’t pass block to save their lives. For this season at least, if we want to win the SB, it’ll be with a balanced offense and imo, James Cook will have to become a major threat catching the ball out of the backfield. I don’t want to see motors 17 millimeter hands attempting to catch passes many more times. (And I love motor….but cook has shown that he can be special in catching the ball. Can Dorsey scheme it is the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, boyst said: Yeah! If he isn't paying attention, clap! Then fire him <------sarcasm Edited December 12, 2022 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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