Process Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 1-2 feet of lake effect snow. Get your shovels ready. Edit: Based on some comments from others below, looks like this could end up being a monster storm. Edited November 14, 2022 by Process 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 heck yeah - I’m ready! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) Just great, fantastic! As if there isn't enough Misery in Western New York right now. Edited November 14, 2022 by BillsPride12 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) I promise you we will be getting more than that. "Snowvember" started out as 12-18" forecast and ended with over 7 feet in some places. A watch issued this early in the week is Bad News Bears and whenever you hear "significant", "long duration event" and "multiple periods of heavy snow" all being bandied about we are about to be f**ked. Ironically November has huge potential for big snow events because the lake is relatively warmer and when colder air blows over it, it tends to pick up more moisture. Edited November 14, 2022 by Big Turk 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) Just what the bills need, a game where throwing is difficult and they need a good run game 🙄 Edited November 14, 2022 by Steptide 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: I promise you we will be getting more than that. "Snowvember" started out as 12-18" forecast. That was wild. In Amherst we got less than an inch of snow if I remember correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Steptide said: Just what the bills need, a game where throwing is difficult and they need a good run game 🙄 If it's going to be white all over the field, then maybe this is the game to wear the all-white throwbacks. They will blend in with the snow so the Browns can't see them 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Yea it looks like this could be a very big storm for Metro Buffalo and surrounding suburbs. Some of the models are spitting out 4-5" of QPF in the form of snow. Most Lake effect snow ratios are 1:20. Has big dog potential and expect it to last into Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Big Turk said: I promise you we will be getting more than that. "Snowvember" started out as 12-18" forecast and ended with over 7 feet in some places. A watch issued this early in the week is Bad News Bears and whenever you hear "significant", "long duration event" and "multiple periods of heavy snow" all being bandied about we are about to be f**ked. Ironically November has huge potential for big snow events because the lake is relatively warmer and when colder air blows over it, it tends to pick up more moisture. Yea it sounds like it's going to be bad. I wonder if there is potential for the game to have to be moved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Big Turk said: I promise you we will be getting more than that. "Snowvember" started out as 12-18" forecast and ended with over 7 feet in some places. A watch issued this early in the week is Bad News Bears and whenever you hear "significant", "long duration event" and "multiple periods of heavy snow" all being bandied about we are about to be f**ked. Ironically November has huge potential for big snow events because the lake is relatively warmer and when colder air blows over it, it tends to pick up more moisture. Agreed. All 4 global models are showing 4-5 feet + of snow this weekend. Will be interesting to see if the higher res guidance agrees the next few days. A watch issued this early is very rare and something to be taken seriously. Lake Erie is at a record high temp due to the warm weather last few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, Steptide said: Just what the bills need, a game where throwing is difficult and they need a good run game 🙄 Playing against a team that can run the ball too 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Greg S said: If it's going to be white all over the field, then maybe this is the game to wear the all-white throwbacks. They will blend in with the snow so the Browns can't see them We won't be able to see ourselves though. In my case, that would be a good thing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Draconator said: We won't be able to see ourselves though. In my case, that would be a good thing The way they are playing that might be a good thing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Steptide said: Just what the bills need, a game where throwing is difficult and they need a good run game 🙄 Why do people assume snow games require running? Unless it is very windy, throwing the ball is highly effective as the WRs have the advantage of knowing where they are going and potential for big plays due to slipping and falling. We had quite a few snow games with the Kelly era Bills that were air raids. The wildcard playoff game against Miami for one. Edited November 14, 2022 by Big Turk 2 1 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 It looks like it will stop sometime Sunday. I wonder if the league would move it to MNF. They have done it before with the Jets - Bills from a few years ago. Gives the area a chance to clear the roads and for people to clear their driveways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 Just now, Greg S said: It looks like it will stop sometime Sunday. I wonder if the league would move it to MNF. They have done it before with the Jets - Bills from a few years ago. Gives the area a chance to clear the roads and for people to clear their driveways. Didn't a game get moved to Detroit once due to significant snowfall that filled the stadium? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills742 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Greg S said: It looks like it will stop sometime Sunday. I wonder if the league would move it to MNF. They have done it before with the Jets - Bills from a few years ago. Gives the area a chance to clear the roads and for people to clear their driveways. Might be difficult considering we play on Thanksgiving. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said: Agreed. All 4 global models are showing 4-5 feet + of snow this weekend. Will be interesting to see if the higher res guidance agrees the next few days. A watch issued this early is very rare and something to be taken seriously. Lake Erie is at a record high temp due to the warm weather last few weeks. Really wish I would have known I was in a "downlow" lake effect zone in the Eastern suburbs past Walden and Transit before I moved here...we tend to get buried when the wind shifts a little further North and the bands go over Lackawanna, just south of Downtown Buffalo, barely miss the airport and hit us with a direct bullseye on their way to Batavia. Edited November 14, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Called my mechanic to get the winter tires put on my car, he said he's booked up for 3 weeks, I said I'm going to Buffalo on Sunday, he said come in tomorrow. 4 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Process said: Didn't a game get moved to Detroit once due to significant snowfall that filled the stadium? Yup...against Sexy Rexy and the Jets and we destroyed them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Just now, Process said: Didn't a game get moved to Detroit once due to significant snowfall that filled the stadium? Yes. That is the game I am talking about. But if it stops Sunday, I could see it being moved to MNF. Along with the roads, they would also need time to clear the stadium as well as the parking lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, Process said: That was wild. In Amherst we got less than an inch of snow if I remember correctly. We got 7 feet in Depew/Lancaster...I live under 10 minutes from the airport and they barely got a foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, bills742 said: Might be difficult considering we play on Thanksgiving. Good point I forgot about that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Greg S said: Yes. That is the game I am talking about. But if it stops Sunday, I could see it being moved to MNF. Along with the roads, they would also need time to clear the stadium as well as the parking lot. Can't...the Bills play Thursday afternoon in Detroit on Thanksgiving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said: Agreed. All 4 global models are showing 4-5 feet + of snow this weekend. Will be interesting to see if the higher res guidance agrees the next few days. A watch issued this early is very rare and something to be taken seriously. Lake Erie is at a record high temp due to the warm weather last few weeks. Do you have a link to these models? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 oh boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 So I'm flying in Saturday in the afternoon. Do you guys think that I should consider another weekend to fly in? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) All of this pretty much reads very badly. In the forecast discussion they are basically already comparing this exact scenario to November of 2000 and Snowvember and what happened then, and says in all caps that a lake response is all but GUARANTEED. Note at the end it says potential for significant lake snow to continue well after the initial watch expires. Edited November 14, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Great - a snowstorm is the only thing that could help the Browns beat the Bills. Move the game to Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: Do you have a link to these models? https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=gfs&p=sn10_acc&rh=2022111412&fh=189&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc= 5 minutes ago, Big Turk said: All of this pretty much reads very badly. In the forecast discussion they are basically already comparing this exact scenario to November of 2000 and Snowvember and what happened then, and says in all caps that a lake response is all but GUARANTEED. Note at the end it says potential for significant lake snow to continue well after the initial watch expires. Yep historic talk already starting. 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: So I'm flying in Saturday in the afternoon. Do you guys think that I should consider another weekend to fly in? I'd fly in Thursday night at the latest if possible. 8 minutes ago, Big Turk said: We got 7 feet in Depew/Lancaster...I live under 10 minutes from the airport and they barely got a foot. I measured 88" of snow in Hamburg for Nov 2014. I'm a trained spotter here. Edited November 14, 2022 by Awwufelloff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, ngbills said: Great - a snowstorm is the only thing that could help the Browns beat the Bills. Move the game to Detroit. Lions on the road this week. Move the game to Detroit and then Bills can just stay and practice there for the Thanksgiving game? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said: https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=gfs&p=sn10_acc&rh=2022111412&fh=189&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc= Yep historic talk already starting. I'd fly in Thursday night at the latest if possible. I measured 88" of snow in Hamburg for Nov 2014. I'm a trained spotter here. That is craziness! We got lucky because the lake band was supposed to shift back north again and it never made it this far...never seen that much snow in my life and I grew up here...Was only 2 when the Blizzard of 77 hit but most of that was from snow that had already fallen and snow blown in off Lake Erie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Process said: Lions on the road this week. Move the game to Detroit and then Bills can just stay and practice there for the Thanksgiving game? Makes a ton of sense. Some time in Detroit could be what they need to get their heads straight anyway. Lose another game and you will all wind up playing here next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said: I'd fly in Thursday night at the latest if possible. I can't because of work....*****. I am looking forward to this game too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: So I'm flying in Saturday in the afternoon. Do you guys think that I should consider another weekend to fly in? Don't do it. It's not worth the risk. Edited November 14, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Erie (South) 11/14/2022 7:00 PM Winter Storm Watch Details ...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM THURSDAY EVENING THROUGH SUNDAY EVENING... * WHAT...Heavy lake effect snow possible. Total snow accumulations in a long duration event of 1 to 2 feet or more are possible in the most persistent lake snows. * WHERE...Erie, Genesee, and Wyoming counties. * WHEN...From Thursday evening through Sunday evening. * IMPACTS...The potential remains for a significant long duration lake effect snow event Thursday night through much of the weekend. There is still considerable uncertainty in exact band placement and amounts, but multiple periods of heavy snow are possible, including across the Buffalo metro area. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... Narrow bands of very heavy snow are possible across portions of the region. Localized travel problems will be possible. Stay tuned for later forecasts and statements as we progress through this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) Bullseye: The 42.2 is inches of snow expected, FYI. Edited November 14, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Bullseye: The 42.2 is inches of snow expected, FYI. thats 1:10 ratio too lol most lake effect is 1:20+. This event like most early season events tend to be lower on the ratio scale so I'm expecting 1:14-1:18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Just now, Awwufelloff said: thats 1:10 ratio too lol most lake effect is 1:20+. This event like most early season events tend to be lower on the ratio scale so I'm expecting 1:14-1:18 It's about to be ugly...looking at the actual forecast, precip chance is 90% and 3 days and nights of "Snow. The snow could be heavy at times" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Don't do it. It's not worth the risk. Okay. The only other time that I can go would be the Jets game December 18th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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