Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) Who in this team outside of Josh Allen couldn't be replaced? Stefon Diggs? I can't come up with too many other names, and that's troubling. I'm starting to look at beane and McDermott like I do James Franklin. That is to say, they're guys who were able to resurrect a dead program, but I'm afraid they're incapable of actually elevating the program to the pinnacle. Can you name any other players on the roster who aren't easily replaceable? Edited November 7, 2022 by Pine Barrens Mafia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsforumsucks Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Milano 2 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Who in this team outside of Josh Allen couldn't be replaced? Stefon Diggs? I can't come up with too many other names, and that's troubling. I'm starting to look at beane and McDermott like I do James Franklin. That is to say, they're guys who were able to resurrect a dead program, but I'm afraid they're incapable of actually elevating the program to the pinnacle. Can you name any other players on the roster be who aren't easily replaceable! Sure Miller Oliver Milano Hyde Dawkins White to name a couple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Flucod said: Milano A possible answer. But he's got some injury concerns, hasn't had a full season yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said: A possible answer. But he's got some injury concerns, hasn't had a full season yet So one of the top LBers in the NFL is “easily replaceable”? Ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Sure Miller Oliver Milano Hyde Dawkins White to name a couple. I beg to differ on Oliver/Dawkins 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, MAJBobby said: Sure Miller Oliver Milano Hyde Dawkins White to name a couple. Disagree 2,3,4. Can maybe see a case for 1,5. But the only one I'll solidly agree on is tre white 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Solomon Grundy said: I beg to differ on Oliver/Dawkins So how easy it is to replace top 10 LTs and DTs in this league. Lol. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Who in this team outside of Josh Allen couldn't be replaced? Stefon Diggs? I can't come up with too many other names, and that's troubling. I'm starting to look at beane and McDermott like I do James Franklin. That is to say, they're guys who were able to resurrect a dead program, but I'm afraid they're incapable of actually elevating the program to the pinnacle. Can you name any other players on the roster who aren't easily replaceable? The next 2-3 years will provide answers to your question, but it appears there may be some truth in your statement about McD and BB. Edited November 7, 2022 by LabattBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Disagree 2,3,4. Can maybe see a case for 1,5. But the only one I'll solidly agree on is tre white So you think you can easily replace to 10 Safety, LBer and DT. Really that is your take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, MAJBobby said: So you think you can easily replace to 10 Safety, LBer and DT. Really that is your take. I don’t know that I would consider Oliver to be a top 10 DT. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 If you want to talk about Beane and McD continued patch work OL. Or obsession with Putting premium assets into the Defense. We can have that conversation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, MAJBobby said: So you think you can easily replace to 10 Safety, LBer and DT. Really that is your take. Buddy, the safeties have been fine with power and Hamlin. Ed Oliver is NOT a top 10 DT, and Milano I really like, but he's fragile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, LabattBlue said: I don’t know that I would consider Oliver to be a top 10 DT. You should. Because he is. Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Buddy, the safeties have been fine with power and Hamlin. Ed Oliver is NOT a top 10 DT, and Milano I really like, but he's fragile. Have they? I seem to see safeties getting beat a ton and the secondary being out of position a lot with no Hyde. Ed Oliver is a top 10DT a LBer that plays balls out every play is gonna get nicked. It is football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 This is true of many teams. What are the Chiefs without Mahomes and Kelce? A fairly average NFL team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Who in this team outside of Josh Allen couldn't be replaced? Stefon Diggs? I can't come up with too many other names, and that's troubling. I'm starting to look at beane and McDermott like I do James Franklin. That is to say, they're guys who were able to resurrect a dead program, but I'm afraid they're incapable of actually elevating the program to the pinnacle. Can you name any other players on the roster who aren't easily replaceable? You say all of this with such confidence but don’t say who you would replace them with. Forget about salaries, draft picks, all of that-who are you getting from other teams in straight up trades for any of the Bills players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: So how easy it is to replace top 10 LTs and DTs in this league. Lol. I'd prefer top 5 LTs/DTs. Oliver should be more of a whooping boy on this forum than Edmunds. He hasn't provided many game changing plays in his time here. I used to complain that he didn't have help, but you can't say that now 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: a LBer that plays balls out every play is gonna get nicked. It is football Fred Warner has been pretty durable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: You say all of this with such confidence but don’t say who you would replace them with. Forget about salaries, draft picks, all of that-who are you getting from other teams in straight up trades for any of the Bills players? You're missing the point. I'm saying beane and McDermott have done a pretty meh job of talent evaluation, especially in the past 3 drafts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: I'd prefer top 5 LTs/DTs. Oliver should be more of a whooping boy on this forum than Edmunds. He hasn't provided many game changing plays in his time here. I used to complain that he didn't have help, but you can't say that now Fred Warner has been pretty durable. Ahhh so in your world it is so easy to replace top 10 players with top 5 players. Jesus the takes here from some people. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: I'd prefer top 5 LTs/DTs. Oliver should be more of a whooping boy on this forum than Edmunds. He hasn't provided many game changing plays in his time here. I used to complain that he didn't have help, but you can't say that now YES finally someone else sees it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Who in this team outside of Josh Allen couldn't be replaced? Stefon Diggs? I can't come up with too many other names, and that's troubling. I'm starting to look at beane and McDermott like I do James Franklin. That is to say, they're guys who were able to resurrect a dead program, but I'm afraid they're incapable of actually elevating the program to the pinnacle. Can you name any other players on the roster who aren't easily replaceable? Dion Dawkins, yes he drew a penalty late (has anyone seen it yet?) but he's been a quietly above average LT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said: You're missing the point. I'm saying beane and McDermott have done a pretty meh job of talent evaluation, especially in the past 3 drafts. You’re missing the point. They haven’t and every standard metric to evaluate drafts prove that. There is a reason the Giants went into the Bills staff to build theirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: Dion Dawkins, yes he drew a penalty late (has anyone seen it yet?) but he's been a quietly above average LT. Yes, yes above average. But he's not the best player on the ol. Mitch Morse is. Now there's a guy o forgot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Yes, yes above average. But he's not the best player on the ol. Mitch Morse is. Now there's a guy o forgot. Morse is up there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocoboy Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 21 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Who in this team outside of Josh Allen couldn't be replaced? Stefon Diggs? I can't come up with too many other names, and that's troubling. I'm starting to look at beane and McDermott like I do James Franklin. That is to say, they're guys who were able to resurrect a dead program, but I'm afraid they're incapable of actually elevating the program to the pinnacle. Can you name any other players on the roster who aren't easily replaceable? Grab the inactives yesterday and you'll find a few that may have made the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: You’re missing the point. They haven’t and every standard metric to evaluate drafts prove that. There is a reason the Giants went into the Bills staff to build theirs. I've acknowledged their success in reviving a dead franchise. What I doubt is their ability to finish the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 24 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Who in this team outside of Josh Allen couldn't be replaced? Stefon Diggs? I can't come up with too many other names, and that's troubling. I'm starting to look at beane and McDermott like I do James Franklin. That is to say, they're guys who were able to resurrect a dead program, but I'm afraid they're incapable of actually elevating the program to the pinnacle. Can you name any other players on the roster who aren't easily replaceable? Jesus Christ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Hyde Poyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: I've acknowledged their success in reviving a dead franchise. What I doubt is their ability to finish the job Cool with Zero evidence to back it up. Only these mythical takes on how easy replacing top 10 talent is. man’s some mythical take about talent evaluation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Disagree 2,3,4. Can maybe see a case for 1,5. But the only one I'll solidly agree on is tre white Bills are tied for the best record in the conference without him. He can't be on the list. Dawkins??? come on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Bills are tied for the best record in the conference without him. He can't be on the list. Dawkins??? come on... Is Dawkins the best player on the OL? Edited November 7, 2022 by Pine Barrens Mafia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Jesus Christ When did He sign? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: When did He sign? You need to relax. We lost a game. We are 6-2. You're saying Beane and McDermott can't elevate a team to the pinnacle yet there are 9 games left and plenty of time to correct mistakes. The Chiefs lost to the Colts and didn't play well against the Titans last night. We still have the head to head against all other afc division leaders, we control our own fate. This site is unbearable after losses. How dumb will you look if we win 13 games and get the 1 seed? Edited November 7, 2022 by Buffalo03 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Buffalo03 said: You need to relax. We lost a game. We are 6-2. You're saying Beane and McDermott can't elevate a team to the pinnacle yet there are 9 games left and plenty of time to correct mistakes. The Chiefs lost to the Colts and didn't play well against the Titans last night. We still have the head to head against all other afc division winners, we control our own fate. This site is unbearable after losses. How dumb will you look if we win 13 games and get the 1 seed? I'll eat the crow if needed. But I'm not concerned that I'll have to at this moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Is Dawkins the best player on the OL? Morse then Dawkins. both are not easily replaceable like you said. 1 minute ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: I'll eat the crow if needed. But I'm not concerned that I'll have to at this moment. Wel of course you are not. You are on your troll account. That disappears after wins. Edited November 7, 2022 by MAJBobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Wel of course you are not. You are on your troll account. Look at the post counts. This is my actual account. Just changed names is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: So you think you can easily replace to 10 Safety, LBer and DT. Really that is your take. They’re not easily replaced, but I interpreted the question as who severely hurts our ability to win a SB. We lost Tre last year, and many would have said him, but we were a coaching/execution meltdown away from probably winning it all. To me, it’s Allen, Diggs and Von. That’s it. Others make it more difficult, but those three are irreplaceable. Similar to the Chiefs, where it’s Mahomes, Kelce and Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, SCBills said: They’re not easily replaced, but I interpreted the question as who severely hurts our ability to win a SB. We lost Tre last year, and many would have said him, but we were a coaching/execution meltdown away from probably winning it all. To me, it’s Allen, Diggs and Von. That’s it. Others make it more difficult, but those three are irreplaceable. Similar to the Chiefs, where it’s Mahomes, Kelce and Jones. Well if that was the question I would agree. As most teams really only have that core 3. but that isn’t what the OP is saying either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: You should. Because he is. Have they? I seem to see safeties getting beat a ton and the secondary being out of position a lot with no Hyde. Ed Oliver is a top 10DT a LBer that plays balls out every play is gonna get nicked. It is football. I don't know - Oliver seemed invisible yesterday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Bermuda Triangle said: I don't know - Oliver seemed invisible yesterday. he does that a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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