Josh Allen injury update(officially questionable - expected to start per Ian Rappaport)

[What a Tuel]

3 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Still aggressive decision making.

 

vs GB, one was a short pass at the goal line.  He had McKenzie wide open on the R.  Early in the play, I think a plausible pass to Cook short of the goal line but trust an RB to make it in.    But Josh  was locked onto Gabe Davis who was coming across the back of the endzone, well covered by Zaire Alexander. 

 

"I was trying to dirt it" c'mon Josh, if you want to dirt a ball, throw it towards the R sideline, McKenzie was there and had the defender boxed out behind him like a basketball guard, Safe.  Or just throw it through the back of the endzone, as you say, it was a short pass from the GB 3 yard line.  It's 3rd down, we get a field goal and kick off.

 

A decision to dirt it in the crowded middle of the field was a stupid decision.

 

So was a decision to "float" a ball to Knox when Josh acknowledges he didn't have a clear view of the field because a DE was in his way.    It was 2nd down.  Throw it away, 3rd down.  Or throw on an arc to Knox and trust him to make it "his ball or no one's ball". 

 

Someone will no doubt hate this analogy, but it's like a hunter shooting a cow or a dog (or worse, a person) and excusing him or herself because he didn't have a clear view of the shot, there was a tree in the way.  "Be Sure of Your Target" is Gun Safety 101: "You're responsible for knowing what's in front of your target, near your target and beyond your target. If you aren't certain about any of the three, don't take the shot."

 

I think thats a gross misinterpretation. He didn't say he threw it blind, he said he thought the DB was "sucked in" and Knox was by himself. It just so happened that the DE obscured the DB. Should he have seen it? Of course.

 

Still I don't agree that the majority of these are bc he is trying to move mountains rather than taking what's given to him. Just a series of poor decisions.

 

 

 

[sunshynman]

4 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said:

 

 

 

You sir are a penile ballsack!

 

/s

Edited November 10, 2022 by sunshynman

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said:

 

 

 

Sheesh settle down, Britt 

[Logic]

3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Highly doubt a day-to-day player misses more than one game.

Hasn't Tre White been called "day to day" by McDermott and missed more than one game since that declaration was first made?

[Billever76]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

I was merely stating the common sense of it all. Your entire Super Bowl season hinges on the health of Josh Allen and you think they are actually going to push him out there less than a week after tearing something in his elbow. Yes, I am quite confident he will not play and why you insist on taking this to leaving the board and bringing up embarrassment is quite strange, very strange actually.

He didn't tear anything 

[Process]

8 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Highly doubt a day-to-day player misses more than one game.

I highly doubt McDermott calling him day to day means anything at all. Not when it comes to Josh.

[HappyDays]

7 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Highly doubt a day-to-day player misses more than one game.

 

This is one case where I wouldn't necessarily take McDermott's word for it. There is no reason for him to say anything else about Allen's status.

[transplantbillsfan]

12 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Pretty much what I expected.

 

Notice the wording.

 

This isn't sourcing.  It's a guess.  

 

When McDermott held Allen out yesterday he was more than likely to hold Allen out today and probably even tomorrow.  The key will be the injury report tomorrow as that will be the best hint.  We already know McDermott said he's taking things "day-to-day" with Allen and said "we'll see" in reference to Allen playing Sunday.  Allen didn't practice yesterday and isn't practicing today so unless he fell/falls down the stairs or something, he hasn't and won't suffer a setback.  So the question will be how he's looking tomorrow and more importantly how he's feeling Sunday.

 

Allen could still not play Sunday.  I still think he will while also thinking he won't practice tomorrow, either.

[Nextmanup]

1 minute ago, Gene1973 said:

We don't know that. A sprain can include tearing. We haven't been given this information.

A sprain is tearing, by definition.

 

 

[Billever76]

16 hours ago, Joe Ferguson said:

I wouldn't go that far. Cutting Gabe Davis and/or Isiah McKenzie would be ideal if we bring in OBJ. In regards to Josh, I  think it is fair to expect Allen to miss several games and an outside chance of him missing the season.  The worst case scenario is he has surgery which could be brutal

Out of everything leaked and what the players and team is saying...what possibly leads you to think that?...I mean atleast come up with a logical explanation behind your WRONG opinion 😆 

[Big Turk]

11 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

We don't know that. A sprain can include tearing. We haven't been given this information.

 

It's 99.9% a Grade I Sprain which is a micro tear.  He missed 4 games with a Grade II Sprain his rookie year and this is not remotely close to as bad as that.

Edited November 10, 2022 by Big Turk

[NoHuddleKelly12]

Just now, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Notice the wording.

 

This isn't sourcing.  It's a guess.  

 

When McDermott held Allen out yesterday he was more than likely to hold Allen out today and probably even tomorrow.  The key will be the injury report tomorrow as that will be the best hint.  We already know McDermott said he's taking things "day-to-day" with Allen and said "we'll see" in reference to Allen playing Sunday.  Allen didn't practice yesterday and isn't practicing today so unless he fell/falls down the stairs or something, he hasn't and won't suffer a setback.  So the question will be how he's looking tomorrow and more importantly how he's feeling Sunday.

 

Allen could still not play Sunday.  I still think he will while also thinking he won't practice tomorrow, either.

I’d be curious if McD has ever played someone without that player getting any practice reps/game install during the week? Not saying he hasn’t or wouldn’t, especially with Josh, but that doesn’t seem to fit with his cautious approach to player health.

[Billever76]

Just now, Nextmanup said:

A sprain is tearing, by definition.

 

 

A sprain is also stretching by definition 

[Big Turk]

16 hours ago, Joe Ferguson said:

I wouldn't go that far. Cutting Gabe Davis and/or Isiah McKenzie would be ideal if we bring in OBJ. In regards to Josh, I  think it is fair to expect Allen to miss several games and an outside chance of him missing the season.  The worst case scenario is he has surgery which could be brutal

 

Where do people come up with this nonsense?  Dude...go back to playing Madden and let the people who do this in real life handle real life.

[Logic]

I officially predict that Josh misses three games.

I know, I know, I'm such a jerk.

This team is very cautious with injuries, and we're talking about the throwing arm of the franchise QB here.

I think the Bills feel like they can potentially win the next three games WITHOUT Allen. They brought in a guy like Case Keenum for a reason. 

If the Bills can go 2-1 without Allen over the next three games -- and I really feel like the Browns and Lions games, in particular, are winnable with Keenum under center -- they'll be in good shape.

[transplantbillsfan]

Just now, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

I’d be curious if McD has ever played someone without that player getting any practice reps/game install during the week? Not saying he hasn’t or wouldn’t, especially with Josh, but that doesn’t seem to fit with his cautious approach to player health.

 

Ever consider that sitting him out all week from practice may actually be the cautious approach itself?

 

It's all still speculation on what Josh's injury is and it's automatically going to the things that aren't even the least common denominator, which is basically temporary nerve displacement during the game, which would have resulted in that tingly funny bone feeling you get in your arm and hand.  Those resolve themselves pretty quickly.

 

I'm not saying that is what happened.  But it's one of the potential results that no one is talking about.

 

And if it is that, I could see McDermott still sitting Josh all week just out of an abundance of caution while still planning/hoping to play him on Sunday.

 

I just think it's odd that absolutely everyone seems to know what his injury is.  All we know is what we saw on Sunday.  A play that looked like it could have been a brutal injury followed by a play where Allen threw the ball and grabbed his elbow and squeezed his hand (almost as if he hit his funny bone) and then followed that up with a 70 yard bomb that didn't seem to cause him all that much pain as you watched him after the play and in the PC.

 

Regardless of anything, Allen could miss this week's game.  I still think he plays but I absolutely could see McDermott sitting him thinking it's not a conference game so it doesn't matter as much.  But I don't remotely think Allen would miss more than 1 game if it happens.

[Big Turk]

8 minutes ago, Logic said:

I officially predict that Josh misses three games.

I know, I know, I'm such a jerk.

This team is very cautious with injuries, and we're talking about the throwing arm of the franchise QB here.

I think the Bills feel like they can potentially win the next three games WITHOUT Allen. They brought in a guy like Case Keenum for a reason. 

If the Bills can go 2-1 without Allen over the next three games -- and I really feel like the Browns and Lions games, in particular, are winnable with Keenum under center -- they'll be in good shape.

 

He will miss one game if that and that is only because they ARE abundantly cautious.  Half the teams in the NFL would probably start him.

Edited November 10, 2022 by Big Turk

[UKBillFan]

8 minutes ago, Logic said:

I officially predict that Josh misses three games.

I know, I know, I'm such a jerk.

This team is very cautious with injuries, and we're talking about the throwing arm of the franchise QB here.

I think the Bills feel like they can potentially win the next three games WITHOUT Allen. They brought in a guy like Case Keenum for a reason. 

If the Bills can go 2-1 without Allen over the next three games -- and I really feel like the Browns and Lions games, in particular, are winnable with Keenum under center -- they'll be in good shape.

 

My concern with the Browns game is Hunt and Chubb unless we tighten up on execution with the run defense. If it becomes a shoot out a lack of Josh might cost us. And Minnesota have Cook. We shut Henry down brilliantly earlier in the season and have to get back to that.

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

There's a dude in this thread that said we should cut Gabe Davis if we sign OBJ

[NewEra]

25 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Where do people come up with this nonsense?  Dude...go back to playing Madden and let the people who do this in real life handle real life.

he’s just here to become the worst poster in the history of the board.