Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Reading through the thread, do the people who are negative about this trade realize we literally just gave up a 6th round pick? If we draft a player in the 6th round and cut him after training camp no one bats an eye. Even if Hines is somehow a complete bust for us we don't lose anything worthwhile, we just cut him after the season for $0 dead cap. We might as well have gotten Hines for free. Hell I'll trade the 6th round pick just for the privilege of knowing I will NEVER again watch Zack Moss singlehandedly kill one of our drives. Is it zero dead? You sure about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Reading through the thread, do the people who are negative about this trade realize we literally just gave up a 6th round pick? If we draft a player in the 6th round and cut him after training camp no one bats an eye. Even if Hines is somehow a complete bust for us we don't lose anything worthwhile, we just cut him after the season for $0 dead cap. We might as well have gotten Hines for free. Hell I'll trade the 6th round pick just for the privilege of knowing I will NEVER again watch Zack Moss singlehandedly kill one of our drives. I love the trade but I’ll try to speak on the other sides behalf…I think they wanted a bigger name rb or a receiver instead lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Is it zero dead? You sure about that? Yes according to Spotrac: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/nyheim-hines-25205/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: Yes according to Spotrac: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/nyheim-hines-25205/ Makes the trade even better. I thought we were locked into him next year. 📈📈📈📈 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I love the trade but I’ll try to speak on the other sides behalf…I think they wanted a bigger name rb or a receiver instead lol I still very much want OBJ. We can end up adding him and Hines for nothing more than a conditional 6th round pick and a small amount of cap space. You couldn't draw it up any better than that. That's how a team goes all in for the short term without sacrificing the long term. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 59 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Geez, the guy fumbled 1 time, in his first game, now it's "fumbles". You guys are a tough crowd. I know a guy in South Buffalo they call 'Mad Dog', in his late 60s now. Last time I was visiting we were talking in a bar. Some guys walk in "hey, Mad Dog". He looks at me and shakes his head, "you bite one kid when your 8 years old and you're 'Mad Dog' the rest of your life.😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyobills89 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 I think of all the times motor gets to the second level but gets chased down or caught, now we have someone that can take those same carries to the house! Love speed. Can never have enough of that in your weapons. This is a very good trade for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 22 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Reading through the thread, do the people who are negative about this trade realize we literally just gave up a 6th round pick? If we draft a player in the 6th round and cut him after training camp no one bats an eye. Even if Hines is somehow a complete bust for us we don't lose anything worthwhile, we just cut him after the season for $0 dead cap. We might as well have gotten Hines for free. Hell I'll trade the 6th round pick just for the privilege of knowing I will NEVER again watch Zack Moss singlehandedly kill one of our drives. “We” gave up Moss and a 6th round pick that can become a 5th round pick after just investing a 2nd round pick in what was supposed to be a similar player. Some of the negativity stems from what this trade says about Cook and getting such low impact from a second round pick. And then an even worse pick in Bernard but that’s a separate conversation… 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 22 minutes ago, Airseven said: “We” gave up Moss and a 6th round pick that can become a 5th round pick after just investing a 2nd round pick in what was supposed to be a similar player. Some of the negativity stems from what this trade says about Cook and getting such low impact from a second round pick. And then an even worse pick in Bernard but that’s a separate conversation… Player evaluation is a fluid situation try not to be so worked up about where we drafted players once they’re drafted it means nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Saw them say it on the NFL Network. He's this ***** guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 41 minutes ago, Airseven said: "We” gave up Moss and a 6th round pick Right, like I said. We gave up nothing more than a 6th round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Reading through the thread, do the people who are negative about this trade realize we literally just gave up a 6th round pick? If we draft a player in the 6th round and cut him after training camp no one bats an eye. Even if Hines is somehow a complete bust for us we don't lose anything worthwhile, we just cut him after the season for $0 dead cap. We might as well have gotten Hines for free. Hell I'll trade the 6th round pick just for the privilege of knowing I will NEVER again watch Zack Moss singlehandedly kill one of our drives. We're also at a different level of talent on this team right now. It will be less likely that late rounders are able to make this team in the next couple of years. This was just a great trade. I have loved reading the comments from Colts fans online about him (they're mostly pulling for the Bills, too). It sounds like we got a guy who is great on the field but also a positive presence overall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 20 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Player evaluation is a fluid situation try not to be so worked up about where we drafted players once they’re drafted it means nothing Some people will always search for the negative spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 42 minutes ago, Airseven said: Some of the negativity stems from what this trade says about Cook and getting such low impact from a second round pick. No, that's not negativity about the trade. That's negativity about the 2nd round selection of James Cook. Two totally different conversations but I understand where you got confused. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Saw them say it on the NFL Network. He's this ***** guy. 😂 He’s coming to get it. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 55 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I love the trade but I’ll try to speak on the other sides behalf…I think they wanted a bigger name rb or a receiver instead lol Agree. I think they looked into Kamara, Hunt, and Jacobs too. Just didn't work out for various reasons. Personally, I never expected a big name guy to land here for this free agency. The 2 pick ups were exactly Beane like pick ups. Improved the arguably best team in football at a modest price. I'm more than ok with that. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 The day after I buy the 130 dollar Moss jersey. I suck at shopping. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Agree. I think they looked into Kamara, Hunt, and Jacobs too. Just didn't work out for various reasons. Personally, I never expected a big name guy to land here for this free agency. The 2 pick ups were exactly Beane like pick ups. Improved the arguably best team in football at a modest price. I'm more than ok with that. People should be your mark players that were traded today that had big names and big contracts on them and see how well they work out down the road for their teams I’ll bet you half of those players are not with their same teams whenever they go back to look at it again The offensive player that we took today has zero dead cap It if he doesn’t work out Feels an absolute need on this team a couple of needs actually the bills were trying so hard to get McKissick before the season started Hines is better than McKissic 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 8 hours ago, LabattBlue said: I don't get it, the biggest areas of need are IOL and S, and they go out and get a 3rd down back despite having used a 2nd round pick in April on a 3rd down back. Color me confused. Did you see anyone give up a starting level guard today? If so please name them. Richie was at the Sabres game Friday, so he is always available in a pinch as long as they don’t roid test him. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Big Turk said: Agree...I don't see the Bills paying that much for an RB and if they were to do that, I would be surprised if they didn't give that money to Singletary and draft another RB. Let’s see how he plays if Hines plays well they can always restructure it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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