Billz4ever Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 23 minutes ago, unbillievable said: Going up 24-7 was challenging GB to a shootout. The Bills defense was playing for a shoot out. GB just said, "no thanks. I'm happy to just run out the clock and go home with a moral victory." Makes perfect sense. Even the announcers were confused why GB was running the Ball. "never interrupt an enemy when he's making a mistake." When was this? GB was doing what worked since their receivers are their weak link. Frazier was playing like we were playing the Curt Warner Rams. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, unbillievable said: We're talking about a Defensive scheme that allowed 10 points in the 2nd half... right? I'm wondering if this has to do with Someone losing to Aaron Jones in fantasy... That, and most people had Buffalo -10.5 or -11. Which I believe is leading to a lot of the angst we are seeing today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: But you just said it's what they do the best upthread?? Do they do nothing well or something well, I'm confused by your responses. You also said they hang on to the ball well, which is not true. Entering the game they had a pretty even TOP with their opponents. Much was made of them not using the running game Entering last night, yet you think they do it well. OK....whatever floats your boat. Relatively speaking that’s what they do best to clarify as their two best players are their RBs. I never said they hang on the ball well. I said that needs to be their game script to win this game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: I think there’s a big difference between starting games and sitting on the bench for 15 minutes during games waiting for your turn to go 4 minutes ago, unbillievable said: We're talking about a Defensive scheme that allowed 10 points in the 2nd half... right? I'm wondering if this has to do with Someone losing to Aaron Jones in fantasy... Or a sizeable bet on the garbage time td. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just now, Billz4ever said: When was this? GB was doing what worked since their receivers are their weak link. Frazier was playing like we were playing the Curt Warner Rams. Dude, you are hilarious. It worked so well the Pack were down by double digits all game! What a plan! Man, did Frazier get out-schemed! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Remember, Singletary was a toe-touch away from a long running Touchdown... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: That, and most people had Buffalo -10.5 or -11. Which I believe is leading to a lot of the angst we are seeing today. The last hour of the game would’ve been agony if you had the Bills to cover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just now, FireChans said: The last hour of the game would’ve been agony if you had the Bills to cover A lot of my friends had big money (~$500) on the game and were FURIOUS in the 4th qtr/post game. I had to stop checking my phone because they were making the victory not fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 35 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: what does Green Bay want to do and what do they do best? Run the ball and control the clock right? Seems to me you did say that about hanging onto the ball.🤷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: The last hour of the game would’ve been agony if you had the Bills to cover I was breathing a sigh of relief every time the Packers handed the ball off. Sure it was frustrating to see some missed tackles, but watching the Packers have only 1 possession in the 3rd quarter was stress relieving. Edited October 31, 2022 by unbillievable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 hours ago, delirious said: Okay, so you let them run. But if you know they're going to run, why not run a 4-3? I'd rather my offense bleed and run out the clock then let them run against nickel and burn clock. It just seems backwards. Because if you switch up the Defense to stop the run - then you allow GB to move toward more passing. They did not care if GB was running the ball because it was eating clock and keeping the Nickel kept them from passing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: A lot of my friends had big money (~$500) on the game and were FURIOUS in the 4th qtr/post game. I had to stop checking my phone because they were making the victory not fun. If I had to bet, the NFL-wide statistics on double digit covers CANNOT be good. I love the Bills, I thought we’d win by double digits but there’s so much garbage time and prevent in the NFL that >10 points is tough to win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsforumsucks Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, FireChans said: If I had to bet, the NFL-wide statistics on double digit covers CANNOT be good. I love the Bills, I thought we’d win by double digits but there’s so much garbage time and prevent in the NFL that >10 points is tough to win. If JA does not have those 2 INT's we cover by 20! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Flucod said: If JA does not have those 2 INT's we cover by 20! For sure but he did. Historically, double digit point spreads only cover 49% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: I think Leslie Frazier knows how to put 8 guys in the box. Packers were slowly drinking poison with their offensive play calling and he was letting them. Agreed. I have to believe that, being up 17, we made the calculated choice to stay in Nickel and invite the run to let them kill their own clock. There was one defensive series in the second half where GB drove to our 35ish and ran it on 4th where we ended up stacking the box and stuffing it for a two yard loss. I wasn’t the biggest fan of the defensive scheme overall, but they did more than enough throughout the game to get the W. Edited October 31, 2022 by ctk232 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Dude, you are hilarious. It worked so well the Pack were down by double digits all game! What a plan! Man, did Frazier get out-schemed! Doing what worked and losing the game. You can't make this stuff up. The Bills just took the ball out of the reigning back-to-back MVPs hands, and let's be honest he still is the best player on that team, and turned them into a running team. But, it's what they do best 🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Big Turk said: Most games they do very well. This game it seemed they were afraid of Rodgers throwing deep on them and refused to get out of nickel and were willing to trade off getting gashed in the run game and GB using lots of clock to honestly accomplish not much of anything as it turned out for that peace of mind. Even with GB running the ball well, it never felt like they were in the game. Because being up by 17 - the only thing that could beat them was Rodgers passing the ball. They just do not care about Stats - they care about the win and running the ball down 3 scores was giving the Bills the win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 18 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: When was this? GB was doing what worked since their receivers are their weak link. Frazier was playing like we were playing the Curt Warner Rams. When you're doing "what worked" and that was running the ball for 8 minutes down by 17 to have a turnover on downs then guess what? It wasn't working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Bruffalo said: When you're doing "what worked" and that was running the ball for 8 minutes down by 17 to have a turnover on downs then guess what? It wasn't working. Missed FG and a weak OPI was the only difference from the game being a nailbiter to the very end. I don't remember the same comfortable win you apparently do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 18 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: Seems to me you did say that about hanging onto the ball.🤷 I was clearly linking that into “what they want to do”, In terms of controlling the clock. It literally says that in my post. I have absolutely no idea what green bays time of possession is relative to the other league lol so I have no idea if they are good or bad at TOP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Billz4ever said: Missed FG and a weak OPI was the only difference from the game being a nailbiter to the very end. I don't remember the same comfortable win you apparently do. The OPI was blatant. You can swim move off of a DB, you can't shove him to the ground. The Missed FG would still have required recovering an onside kick, and then driving down the field and scoring with no TOs with something like 45 seconds on the clock. If you were biting your nails you might have anxiety issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Billz4ever said: Missed FG and a weak OPI was the only difference from the game being a nailbiter to the very end. I don't remember the same comfortable win you apparently do. So, in your mind, where you had plays ending differently, it was a nail biter? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Bruffalo said: The OPI was blatant. You can swim move off of a DB, you can't shove him to the ground. The Missed FG would still have required recovering an onside kick, and then driving down the field and scoring with no TOs with something like 45 seconds on the clock. If you were biting your nails you might have anxiety issues. I'll save you some time, he's pissed he lost alot of money or to Aaron Jones in fantasy. He's been going on about this for 13 hours. Many people have tried, but no matter what you say he ain't changing his mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Billz4ever said: When you're ripping off 20 yard runs, how is that any different than throwing 20 yard passes? How many 20 yard runs did they give up - I counted 2 both on the same drive. They gave up more passes of 20 yards than runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: So, in your mind, where you had plays ending differently, it was a nail biter? Imagine if Diggs had dropped that TD pass, or Singletary fumbled every time he touched the ball! What would have happened if Josh had missed the bus! This game was 3 TDs away from a 17-6 Packers Victory! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: I'll save you some time, he's pissed he lost alot of money or to Aaron Jones in fantasy. He's been going on about this for 13 hours. Many people have tried, but no matter what you say he ain't changing his mind. I feel like the announcing has warped a whole lot of fans perception of this game. The Packers decision to commit to a running game down 17 points is laughable, but Collinsworth was praising it like it was a stroke of genius. I seriously wonder how the "but mah run defense" narrative would be shaking out if the announcers were being honest about Green Bay's losing strategy. Maybe this is an aside, but Collinsworth was so terribly bias last night it made me wanna puke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 "We are a dumb football team?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Bruffalo said: I feel like the announcing has warped a whole lot of fans perception of this game. The Packers decision to commit to a running game down 17 points is laughable, but Collinsworth was praising it like it was a stroke of genius. I seriously wonder how the "but mah run defense" narrative would be shaking out if the announcers were being honest about Green Bay's losing strategy. Maybe this is an aside, but Collinsworth was so terribly bias last night it made me wanna puke. I was a little surprised he brought up the times he played Buffalo. Sounded a little bitter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, unbillievable said: I was a little surprised he brought up the times he played Buffalo. Sounded a little bitter. I think he actively dislikes the city, he's begrudgingly says nice things about Allen because he has to now. His PFF company was so wrong on Allen that it's embarrassing for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: One team was ripping off 20 yard passes and one was ripping off 20 yard runs? Which one of those teams won? There's your answer You've already been told this, but keep posting to me. This is how (not) smart you are. Edited October 31, 2022 by Billz4ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: This is how smart you are. Oh no!! Someone with a football IQ south of 50 has choosen to ignored me. Whatever shall I do? 😂😂😂😂 Edited October 31, 2022 by LOVEMESOMEBILLS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: So, in your mind, where you had plays ending differently, it was a nail biter? Considering you're a fan of a team that allowed a team to march downfield and tie a game with 13 seconds left? You're really asking that question? 2 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: Oh no!! Some with a football IQ south of 50 ignored me. Whatever shall I do? 😂😂😂😂 And you're so clueless you keep posting to them. LMAO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just now, Billz4ever said: Considering you're a fan of a team that allowed a team to march downfield and tie a game with 13 seconds left? You're really asking that question? And you're so clueless you keep posting to them. LMAO Aw, how cute, you didn't ignore me. You must just be playing hard to get.😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just now, Billz4ever said: Considering you're a fan of a team that allowed a team to march downfield and tie a game with 13 seconds left? You're really asking that question? Uh, that didn't happen last night. The Bills won. Honestly, they did. I wouldn't lie to you. Look it up.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Uh, that didn't happen last night. The Bills won. Honestly, they did. I wouldn't lie to you. Look it up.... Play like that against KC and let me know how it works out. Edited October 31, 2022 by Billz4ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Billz4ever said: Play like that against KC and let me know how it works out. Why are you living in a world of hypotheticals? "Play against KC like that!" I'll gladly let KC rush the ball instead of having Mahomes throw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: How sad someone is this starved for attention. 1 minute ago, Bruffalo said: Why are you living in a world of hypotheticals? "Play against KC like that!" I'll gladly let KC rush the ball instead of having Mahomes throw. You clearly missed the point, but OK. What the Bills did last night was the equivalent of stacking 8 in the box every play against KC, but obviously you don't get that. Edited October 31, 2022 by Billz4ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: Play like that against KC and let me know how it works out. We didnt and we won. As a matter of fact, against KC, our coaches entered a chess match that saw both teams adjust and re-scheme multiple times throughout the game. And ultimately it was our re-scheming by Frazier that secured the victory. If a weak team wants to do dumb ***** and lose themselves the game, we will let them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just now, Billz4ever said: Play like that against KC and let me know how it works out. They just beat KC at their house. You've brought up moot point after moot point, while showing just how little you know of football. Good job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Or maybe they realized this: 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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