Shortchaz Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, teef said: as mentioned before, for all the people who thinks this is no big deal, i wonder how you would react if you were shoved to the ground like that, or if someone you cared about was. way too much love for an athlete here. You’re saying we SHOULD be emotional about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: This thread could be a case study on confirmation bias. The first view looked like one thing, while the view from behind looked like something else. It almost seems like a different incident. I’m not going to try to change anyone’s mind, but in my opinion Adams was clearly wrong (as he has admitted and apologized for) but he camera guy messed up by inexplicably jumping out in front of him. He is not without some responsibility, IMO. It doesn’t have to be one or the other. They can both have some fault, and not necessarily in equal shares. Camera guy should not have done that. Adams DEFINITELY should NOT have done that. . Edited October 13, 2022 by Augie 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Shortchaz said: You’re saying we SHOULD be emotional about it. you don't need to be emotional. just have common sense. like adams failed to do. that guy has a lot to lose, he made a bad decision, and now he has to deal with it. just like you and i would have to if we shoved someone to the ground. not to hard to understand if you're reasonable. so...what would you do if this happened to you? Edited October 12, 2022 by teef 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 If this was an opposing team player it would cause a huge brawl, but since it's just a cameraman it's nothing to most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Shortchaz said: You’re saying we SHOULD be emotional about it. No he is not, just to accept that he assaulted the guy, and move forward accordingly, 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortchaz Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 24 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: No he is not, just to accept that he assaulted the guy, and move forward accordingly, It MIGHT have been MISDEMEANOR assault , more likely that it’s a violation. Either way NO BIG DEAL. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Adams is a self absorbed POS and deserves to he punished. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Shortchaz said: “Facts” any lawyer Adams hires will quickly turn this misdemeanor into a violation at worst. He could probably plead it to a violation himself with a simple call to the d.a., pay a fine and be done with it. what's "a violation"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: what's "a violation"? It sounds like a bad thing in the workplace. I mean, from what others have told me…… EDIT: I have no idea what that means. Is there some “ticket level” of event? Like jaywalking? P.S. - Has anyone explained why that guy jumped out? Adams had ZERO business shoving him like that, but WTF was camera guy thinking? I wish a clip would surface that starts earlier. . Edited October 13, 2022 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 20 hours ago, pennstate10 said: The guy could have been hurt pretty badly? Yeah I guess any time you fall backwards you can get hurt. But it is a known risk of being a field cameraman. How many times have you seen camerapersons on the sideline get hammered as a player went out of bounds. Fwiw, I think a criminal case for this push is silly. Fine him 100K and call it a day. There is a big difference between a player running into a camera man on the sideline because of momentum during a play and a player assaulting a camera man in the tunnel after the game. Do you really not know the difference? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Bills2022 said: It already is a misdemeanor. More facts for you. The problem for him is the civil suit, the NFL suspension, and a misdemeanor assault can result in as much as 180 days in jail and he is 100% guilty of that crime. Likely won't happen, but those are the facts. actually 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Bottom line it was uncalled and should be punished. It sounds like the local PD, is doing something minor and the league will punish. Moving on. The cameraman didn’t need to be shoved like that by a guy entitled thinking he could anything he wants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, FLFan said: Adams is a self absorbed POS and deserves to he punished. End of story. Actually, from several reports I’ve heard he is regarded as a very nice guy. I heard there was no history of trouble or being a DBag. It was the wrong time, wrong place. I’d hope I’d know enough not to be on either end of that. I don’t care if it’s 97% to 3%, both share in what went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortchaz Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 35 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: what's "a violation"? Hrrrm, something less than a misdemeanor in the hierarchy of offenses; violation, misdemeanor, felony. basically a non-criminal offense that usually requires paying a fine, like a traffic ticket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 24 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: There is a big difference between a player running into a camera man on the sideline because of momentum during a play and a player assaulting a camera man in the tunnel after the game. Do you really not know the difference? morally sure. but if talking injury risk, they are also worlds apart. adams was a jerk, with very low real risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Just now, NoSaint said: morally sure. but if talking injury risk, they are also worlds apart. adams was a jerk, with very low real risk. There is plenty of risk of slamming your bare head against concrete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Adams made a bad decision. Now he answers for it. The guy that was pushed did absolutely nothing wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 I don’t mean to be a jerk here, and I’ll catch it for this, but we had never even HEARD of a seatbelt growing up. Falling down is only a big deal if a big deal results. This SHOULD be a non-event. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Augie said: I don’t mean to be a jerk here, and I’ll catch it for this, but we had never even HEARD of a seatbelt growing up. Falling down is only a big deal if a big deal results. This SHOULD be a non-event. Never heard of workplace violence either, but here we are..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 minute ago, loyal2dagame said: Adams made a bad decision. Now he answers for it. The guy that was pushed did absolutely nothing wrong. If you have seen both angles you should realize that is simply not true. The guy went out in front of a player coming off the field after a rough loss. I’m still waiting for video that starts a couple seconds sooner, or from a different angle. WTF happened? WHY was he there in the first place? Like the AJ Epenesa expulsion, don’t startle a worked up guy in his workplace. Adams HAS admitted and is facing what is due. Camera guy needs to get real. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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