newcam2012 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 I believe the Chiefs are playing much more cover 2 this year with their young secondary. Correct me if I'm wrong. The Chiefs will concentrate on not getting beat deep. Allen is number one in the league in long pass plays. With that said, the Bill's will have to be patient and take the underneathth and short passes. The Bills slot guys will be busy. I think the Chiefs will be content to try to force the Bills into longer drives which hopefully for them results in some turnovers. However, Allen has grown so much and he's willing to take what the defense gives him. I just don't think this Chiefs defense can stop the Bills. offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 10 hours ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said: I like Lawson in this matchup. He doesn’t get to the qb but he keeps the qb from escaping (and throwing ) from his side out of the pocket. He plays lamar so well. Mahomes kills the Bills rolling right I think Shaq is not afraid to hit the Rat and hit him hard, I would dress him no doubt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: I believe the Chiefs are playing much more cover 2 this year with their young secondary. Correct me if I'm wrong. The Chiefs will concentrate on not getting beat deep. Allen is number one in the league in long pass plays. With that said, the Bill's will have to be patient and take the underneathth and short passes. The Bills slot guys will be busy. I think the Chiefs will be content to try to force the Bills into longer drives which hopefully for them results in some turnovers. However, Allen has grown so much and he's willing to take what the defense gives him. I just don't think this Chiefs defense can stop the Bills. offense. KC has two rookie CBs playing today(one was a 7th rounder). Pitt would drop 8 in coverage trying to take away deep ball. Ask Gabe how that worked out? KC might play mostly Cover 2, trying to keep everything in front. But we can take top off cover 2, Especially with the green KC secondary 41 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said: I wonder why the Bills don't run the counter gap a few times a game (Thurman's old speciality in the 90s). It's perfect for mobile linemen and gives the running back a view of where the holes are. Singletary and especially Moss don't recognize the cutback lane quickly, this could help. And with Morse, Dawkins and Brown on the move, good things happen. ive often wondered that. That counter was a Bills specialty from the KGun era 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Pete said: what in the mother*****? Buffalo goes to KC again in 2023? Date TBA at Kansas City ChiefsArrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MOTime TBA https://fbschedules.com/2023-buffalo-bills-schedule/ Even in the 90s I remember Buffalo traveling to Arrowhead. Yo NFL could you stop goving KC home field advantage every time? Home field is not going to help the Chefs this time- we are going to destroy them FU NFL- we will win home field and host KC you rat bastards this has been discussed and explained quite a bit already on this board; it's not a matter of the NFL "giving KC home field advantage every time" https://www.audacy.com/wgr550/sports/bills/why-do-bills-keep-playing-chiefs-in-kansas-city Edited October 15, 2022 by BuffaninSarasota typo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said: this has been discussed and explained quite a bit already on this board; it's not a matter of the NFL "giving KC home field advantage very time" https://www.audacy.com/wgr550/sports/bills/why-do-bills-keep-playing-chiefs-in-kansas-city What a garbage formula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills2022 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 I have become less worried about this game. I think the Bills are going to win rather comfortably. After this weekend, expect to be the hunted until the Super Bowl. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: I think the Bills are much more suited for this style of run game. The pin and pull allows for the Bills quick and fleet footed OL to use their angles and misdirection to hastily take a strategic advantage of the defenders presnap alignment. They are multiple in the way they use this, with numerous combinations of who moves, who pins, etc. Mitch Morse does his best work on the move, and guys like Bates, Brown and Dawkins are all more than capable. Those RPOs on the other hand, don’t see nearly as much success because of how slowly they develop, while relying on bodies to move bodies. It’s way more of a “line up and move these men” which frankly, our guys are often beat or don’t create nearly enough wash up front for their to be success regularly. They just aren’t built for that. When Buffalo played Baltimore, I loved watching their ISO run game with Pat Ricard on Tremaine Edmunds. I was thinking to myself, man I wish we have a play as quick hitting and powerful. Then you remember your personnel, and realize that’s just not something we’re built for. Dorsey is smart enough to realize that the ground game for Buffalo has to be a chess match, and not a d*** measuring contest. The aspect to RPOs Dorsey might find attractive is undoubtedly the fact the ball stays in your best players hands. I am certain they will continue to incorporate this, with wrinkles of bootlegs, QB keepers and more. I’m just not so crazy about the running aspect of it, although Allen seems to be finding ways to rip off chunk yardage and take advantage of off-man coverage. The Bills have more rushing yards and a higher ypc than the Chiefs….But Bills have a rushing problem is this weeks narrative… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, TH3 said: The Bills have more rushing yards and a higher ypc than the Chiefs….But Bills have a rushing problem is this weeks narrative… And yet the Chiefs have the best run block win percentage in the NFL while the Bills have the worst. There's an interesting dynamic with these two run games, for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 The Chiefs not having Hill really changes the way I feel about them. But still, that is a very tough place to play and unfortunately the refs will probably be a factor. Just have to find a way to get this one done here and attempt to get healthy down the stretch. Win or lose, I’m sure we will see them again this year. And if we do, that’s going to be the one we have to have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: And yet the Chiefs have the best run block win percentage in the NFL while the Bills have the worst. There's an interesting dynamic with these two run games, for sure. #1 (Chiefs and Cards) and #32 (Bills) in run block win rate is only separated by 10% (75% vs 65%). https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34536376/2022-nfl-pass-rushing-run-stopping-blocking-leaderboard-win-rate-rankings-top-players-teams%3Fplatform%3Damp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 21 hours ago, Logic said: That much I expected. Bryce Brown, Marquise Goodwin, and a middle finger emoji...those I did NOT expect. It's not really weird til the slo mo clips of Josh's manhood swinging under his shorts appear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Who’s Pumped? I’m not pumped, You are! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 minute ago, FrenchConnection said: #1 (Chiefs and Cards) and #32 (Bills) in run block win rate is only separated by 10% (75% vs 65%). https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34536376/2022-nfl-pass-rushing-run-stopping-blocking-leaderboard-win-rate-rankings-top-players-teams%3Fplatform%3Damp Nevertheless, it seems significant when discussing OLine play. It seems to suggest that the Bills' RBs do more with what they're given (or rather not given). For this game it will be interesting to see how effective the Chief's run blocking is against the Bills. If it helps the Chiefs control the clock, that's bad news. The Bills run defense has been great this year, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 just gonna leave this one here.. You’re HIRED! Go Bills! 1 2 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) QB: Josh Allen neutralizes Patrick Mahomes. Neither team has an advantage there = NEUTRAL. TEAM OFFENSE: Chiefs is rated number one. However, Bills is rated number 2, right? The difference is tiny. Advantage: Slight edge by Chiefs. Still gotta give it to them, but not a huge advantage over us. TEAM DEFENSE: Bills is number one. Numero uno in the NFL. Clear cut domination. We're number one in Point Differential by a landslide. And that's with our injured secondary. Chiefs air defense is awful, but the sports media decided, in unison, NOT to mention it because they want to hype up the match up: Chiefs currently allow the opposing QB the most completions in the NFL (Abysmal sign for Chiefs since we're one of the elites at getting completions through the air) They're in the Top 10 in passing yards allowed. (Advantage: Buffalo) Tied for last place for TDs allowed, which means that Chiefs is abysmal at stopping the opposing team get TDs via passing. Ranked number 6 in first downs allowed through the air, which means Chiefs is at the bottom of the league at stopping the opposing team get 1st downs via passing Chiefs secondary can barely get interceptions. They're one of the worst in the league. Chiefs is ranked number 26 (near the bottom of the league) at letting the opposing team end their drives with scores, which means they're awful. Our defense is ranked 2 at letting the opposing team end their drives with scores. We're nearly tied with 49ers (currently number one) in that department, which means we're elite. Don't bother running the ball against the Chiefs though. They're good at stopping the run. They ARE our equals in that department. Both teams will have to abandon the run since both teams are so good at stopping it. Advantage: Buffalo Bills. Massive onslaught by us. FIELD: Neutral Kansas City has no home field advantage. We played so many times at Arrowhead. It's really our 2nd home. COACHING: Chiefs. Andy Reid. He has the accolades and great win record. Then again, Andy Reid can do so much. His team defense, at stopping the air attack, completely sucks this year. Despite that, it's no mistake that their record is 4-1 even with a bad defense though. The greatness of Mahomes, Andy Reid, and Travis Kelce got them here. The winner of this Week 6 game: I'm terrible at making predictions, but I'll pick our Buffalo Bills. Don't be shocked if we blow them the EFF out. We will beat them through the air with our number 2 offense and limit their offense BIG TIME with our number one defense. If our secondary was fully healthy, we would have an historic number one defense. Josh Allen should be throwing 50+ times. Let 'er rip. As long as we don't have big injuries to key players, we shouldn't be surprised if Josh Allen got 6 TDs and 500+ yards. Protect Josh Allen at all costs. No designed runs for him. The chances of him breaking one for a TD are low anyway. Chiefs is ripe for the picking. It's been building up for us to destroy them. Mahomes will just go to Kelce when they hit within goal line. That's a given. I'm confident in our defense limiting that since we have Von Miller, Poyer, and Milano. Edited October 15, 2022 by Buffalo Ballin 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 LET’S GO BUFFALO 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, BuffaninSarasota said: this has been discussed and explained quite a bit already on this board; it's not a matter of the NFL "giving KC home field advantage very time" https://www.audacy.com/wgr550/sports/bills/why-do-bills-keep-playing-chiefs-in-kansas-city 2017 - Bills at Chiefs (divisional rotation) 2018 - Did not play 2019 - Did not play 2020 - Chiefs at Bills (divisional rotation)(covid- very light attendance allowed) 2020 - Bills at Chiefs (playoffs, Chiefs higher seed) 2021 - Bills at Chiefs (same-place finishers) 2021- Bills at Chiefs (playoffs, Chiefs higher seed) 2022 - Bills at Chiefs (same-place finishers) 2023-Bills at Chefs ***** the NFL's garbage schedule BS Edited October 15, 2022 by Pete 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Also it appears the Bills have started using more pin and pull tactics in the run block game...there were sever runs in the Pittsburgh game that utilized these and they worked well... Not sure why coaches tried to force the zone blocking scheme on a team that has struggles last year and obviously the same struggle this year...maybe Kromer thought he could coach them up but clearly they are not good at this maybe due to the type of players 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Pete said: 2017 - Bills at Chiefs (divisional rotation) 2018 - Did not play 2019 - Did not play 2020 - Chiefs at Bills (divisional rotation)(covid- very light attendance allowed) 2020 - Bills at Chiefs (playoffs, Chiefs higher seed) 2021 - Bills at Chiefs (same-place finishers) 2021- Bills at Chiefs (playoffs, Chiefs higher seed) 2022 - Bills at Chiefs (same-place finishers) 2023-Bills at Chefs ***** the NFL's garbage schedule BS It only feels remarkable because the Chiefs and Bills keep finishing first in their division and keep meeting in the playoffs. The only solution is to win on Sunday and host the playoff game this time. That much is in the Bills control. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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