Tiberius Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 No idea where this is leading but hopefully the people of Iran can overthrow that monstrous regime and install another democracy in this world. The US says it will ease internet curbs on Iran to counter Tehran's clampdown on protests which were sparked by a woman's death in police custody. "We are going to help make sure the Iranian people are not kept isolated and in the dark," said US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken. The relaxation of software controls will allow American tech firms to expand their business in Iran. The US treasury said the move would help counter the Iranian government's attempt to "surveil and censor" its people. But it is unlikely to have an immediate impact as it "does not remove every tool of communications repression". Billionaire Elon Musk said on Twitter that he would activate his satellite internet firm, Starlink, to provide internet services to Iran in response to Mr Blinken's announcement. Starlink provides internet services via a huge network of satellites and is aimed at people who live in remote areas who cannot get high-speed internet. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-63013359 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 I’m surprised this is the first mention in this forum regarding what’s going on over there. There is a ton of content on TikTok regarding what’s going on over there and this one video shows why the Second Amendment is so important here. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRac5NCD/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Just now, Chef Jim said: I’m surprised this is the first mention in this forum regarding what’s going on over there. There is a ton of content on TikTok regarding what’s going on over there and this one video shows why the Second Amendment is so important here. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRac5NCD/ Tibs mentioned it yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Doc said: Tibs mentioned it yesterday. Mentioning it is one thing. A thread devoted to it is another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just shows how precious and important our first amendment is. The wall separating church and state is the best wall of all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 The old men that run the Iranian regime. Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 50 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Just shows how precious and important our first amendment is. The wall separating church and state is the best wall of all If you say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, SoCal Deek said: If you say so. Don't think so? You think made up religious stuff should guide policy like in Iran? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, Tiberius said: Don't think so? You think made up religious stuff should guide policy like in Iran? Our entire civilization gets much of its core principles from ‘made up religious stuff’. But once again.. you already know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Our entire civilization gets much of its core principles from ‘made up religious stuff’. But once again.. you already know that. Really? Where is democracy is the bible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Really? Where is democracy is the bible? Don't be stupid, Tibs. He was speaking about the core values of Judeo/Christianity upon which our country was founded, and about that he's correct. But I agree with you as well that I don't want to live in a theocracy either, the concept of praying to another's god is not something I want to be involved in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Really? Where is democracy is the bible? It’s there more than you know. And for the millionth time…the United States was specifically constructed to NOT BE a democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: The old men that run the Iranian regime. Thread I'm going to take a page out of Tibs book in this reply & only focus on one sentence rather than the entire paragraph . The one sentence that stands out to me is "with the images of the countries ruling elite, virtually all deeply traditional, geriatric" seems to be a lot like the US ruling politicians at the moment . See Tibs i am becoming more like you ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: It’s there more than you know. And for the millionth time…the United States was specifically constructed to NOT BE a democracy. And it says a Republic is a good thing in the bible? Slave holders loved the bible as it sanctioned their rape, murder and general sadistic behviour, so I'll pass on that as a guiding set of principles 2 hours ago, Tenhigh said: Don't be stupid, Tibs. He was speaking about the core values of Judeo/Christianity upon which our country was founded, and about that he's correct. But I agree with you as well that I don't want to live in a theocracy either, the concept of praying to another's god is not something I want to be involved in. Democracy is a core value of our society. We the People. Not we will blindly follow something in the clouds that is suppose to really exist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, Tiberius said: And it says a Republic is a good thing in the bible? Slave holders loved the bible as it sanctioned their rape, murder and general sadistic behviour, so I'll pass on that as a guiding set of principles Democracy is a core value of our society. We the People. Not we will blindly follow something in the clouds that is suppose to really exist Moses was a slave holder? Jesus was a slave holder? 😂😂😂 Which version of the Bible do you read? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffarukus Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: Just shows how precious and important our first amendment is. The wall separating church and state is the best wall of all serious question does it also show how precious the second is or you believe a unarmed uprising from authoritarian gov can be successful. iran has had numerous unsuccessful ones that usually end in protestors being shot down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 48 minutes ago, Tiberius said: And it says a Republic is a good thing in the bible? Slave holders loved the bible as it sanctioned their rape, murder and general sadistic behviour, so I'll pass on that as a guiding set of principles Democracy is a core value of our society. We the People. Not we will blindly follow something in the clouds that is suppose to really exist Are you trying to be coy or ignorant here? "We, therefore, the representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name, and by authority of the good people of these colonies, solemnly publish and declare that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent states; .. And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Tenhigh said: Are you trying to be coy or ignorant here? "We, therefore, the representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name, and by authority of the good people of these colonies, solemnly publish and declare that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent states; .. And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor." You are being silly on purpose, right? That's simply a statement that carried absolutely no power of law. Might as well of said, "I hope we have good luck" This is the other hand does, our first amendment: The First Amendment provides that Congress make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting its free exercise. 1 hour ago, Buffarukus said: serious question does it also show how precious the second is or you believe a unarmed uprising from authoritarian gov can be successful. iran has had numerous unsuccessful ones that usually end in protestors being shot down. There would be no need to revolt if they had a separation of church and state and a right to vote, The first amendment is far, far more important that second amendment The 14th is also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Moses was a slave holder? Jesus was a slave holder? 😂😂😂 Which version of the Bible do you read? don't ask me, read some American History. So let me get this straight, we are a Christian nation but not a democracy? Are you a Christian Nationalist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 The op should rip off his burka and protest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, Albwan said: The op should rip off his burka and protest Go watch the game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: don't ask me, read some American History. So let me get this straight, we are a Christian nation but not a democracy? Are you a Christian Nationalist? One thing I’m not is a total moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffarukus Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: There would be no need to revolt if they had a separation of church and state and a right to vote, The first amendment is far, far more important that second amendment The 14th is also "there would be no need..." well they don't have separation or voting rights. so now what? how do you suggest these people remove the dictators that are enforcing these religious policies and suppressing and murdering the people who want them? there have been repeated attempts and all met with violence. none of your "more important" amendments seem to be able to persuade the brutal government. so with this in mind do you understand the absolute importance of the second ammendment? would you be against arming the citizens to fight for and maintain ANY of the amendments that we take for granted? or do you still..take it for granted? its the first one required before any other would even be considered or taken, yet you want it taken from your own people. makes no sense. Edited September 25, 2022 by Buffarukus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Protesters will need weapons. The 79 revolution really only swung into gear once the armed clashes started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdmoreRyno Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 On 9/25/2022 at 6:46 AM, Tiberius said: Just shows how precious and important our first amendment is. The wall separating church and state is the best wall of all But not the one right after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 26, 2022 Author Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 minute ago, ArdmoreRyno said: But not the one right after. Which one do you think is more important in this country now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdmoreRyno Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Just now, Tiberius said: Which one do you think is more important in this country now? They are ALL equality important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 26, 2022 Author Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 minute ago, ArdmoreRyno said: They are ALL equality important. I'd very much disagree with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdmoreRyno Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Just now, Tiberius said: I'd very much disagree with that I know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 26, 2022 Author Share Posted September 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: I know... The pen is mightier than the sword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 20 minutes ago, Tiberius said: The pen is mightier than the sword Then why is Ukraine using guns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 26, 2022 Author Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: Then why is Ukraine using guns? To kill fascists Have you killed anyone lately to preserve your rights? Man, you really have a lot of rights as an American citizen. No killing involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: To kill fascists Have you killed anyone lately to preserve your rights? Man, you really have a lot of rights as an American citizen. No killing involved Why do they need guns if the pen is mightier than the sword? Walk softly and carry a big stick is also a nice saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Iran is still a mystery to me. I’ve known many Iranian Americans - an educated, “westernized” group of people - who’ve told me it’s just a matter of time before the regime toppled there. And in Iran itself there’s a large educated class of younger people. It’s not like Saudi Arabia. Yet the regime hangs on, decade after decade, preposterous/backward governance after ridiculous government policy decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 26, 2022 Author Share Posted September 26, 2022 20 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Why do they need guns if the pen is mightier than the sword? Walk softly and carry a big stick is also a nice saying. Because their republic is under outside attack The pen has allowed them to get weapons Would they have gotten weapons without the ability to comminicate their need or our great media showing what is going on there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Because their republic is under outside attack The pen has allowed them to get weapons Would they have gotten weapons without the ability to comminicate their need or our great media showing what is going on there? We sent Ukraine billions of weapons which is keeping Russia at the gates. We fought the British with guns which brough free speech. We get it you don't like guns but don't understimate their importance you're just being ignorant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 26, 2022 Author Share Posted September 26, 2022 Just now, aristocrat said: We sent Ukraine billions of weapons which is keeping Russia at the gates. We fought the British with guns which brough free speech. We get it you don't like guns but don't understimate their importance you're just being ignorant Free speech is still more important Yes, we need weapons, but without free speech they are useless to secure liberty FU ignorant pos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 40 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Iran is still a mystery to me. One of the undeniable consequences of this idiotic invasion is the total depletion of Russian weapons, and their inability to produce replacements from internal industry. This past week, the tried, unsuccessfully, to surreptitiously supply their Ukrainian forces with additional S-300 sam missile systems. An older system, they moved a number of them from their air defense of St. Petersburg to the border under cover of darkness, some which had been parked in the elements for years. They did not relocate their S-400 systems. Detection of the movement was easy, but it points to the desperate level of their need to supply the Ukraine invasion force to the point where they are weakening internal defenses by cannibalizing domestic systems. So....What are the consequences for Iran, India, Venezuela and other regimes who depend on Russian weapon exports, when they can't even supply their own? If I was a customer of theirs, I'd be very concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Iran vows to crush women-led protests with ‘no leniency’ as unrest enters 10th day. “The number of dead during clashes between protesters and security forces increased to 41 people, including some members of the security forces, according to state TV. However, the real figure is believed to be much higher.” https://news.yahoo.com/iran-vows-crush-women-led-110253604.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffarukus Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 35 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Free speech is still more important Yes, we need weapons, but without free speech they are useless to secure liberty FU ignorant pos start-->free speech rights are more important then gun rights--> gun rights are needed to obtain/maintain free speach rights--> return to start. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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