HOUSE Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Anyone waived by the Bears in Fudged for life... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Looks like Peterman made it on the Bears' practice squad ... https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/chicago-bears-practice-squad-tracker-2022/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Can I ask who really cares???? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: Can I ask who really cares???? Well, you might not care but it seems you care if others care... not that I care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Does this mean that Kaepernick can't use him as an example anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, unbillievable said: Does this mean that Kaepernick can't use him as an example anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills2022 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: Can I ask who really cares???? Let's not forget Nate helped make Josh Allen who Josh is today. Real Bills fans will forever be thankful to Nathan Peterman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Bills2022 said: Let's not forget Nate helped make Josh Allen who Josh is today. Real Bills fans will forever be thankful to Nathan Peterman. Only the Peterman can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 5 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Imagine defending/celebrating Peterman’s career? That guy EMBARASSED our beloved franchise. He got a job because he was a nice guy. The ONLY people that defend Nate are the ones that wanted him to start. Instead of saying, “I was wrong. That was a mistake.” They pretend that it was a good decision and that the guy could play. Is there anyone worse than the person that can’t admit when they’re wrong? This one isn’t “debatable.” Just take the “L” and move along. Peterman was a mistake. People that wanted him were dumb before he went on the field. There are still apparently a few band members on the Titanic, playing their cellos, as the ship sits on the bottom of the ocean. I jumped on a lifeboat as soon as I heard “Peterman is starting vs. the Chargers.” I was right. There are some funny stats in here regarding Peterman. If Rodgers threw 1240 straight interceptions he would still have a better TD:INT ratio than Peterman. For some perspective, that would be every pass for 37 consecutive games 😂😂!! https://dailysnark.com/2018/11/13/nathan-peterman-finishes-with-worse-qb-rating-than-if-he-just-spiked-ball-into-ground-every-play-of-his-career/ That’s cold brutha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Ga boy said: That’s cold brutha. Sometimes the truth hurts!! I just read someone crediting Peterman for Allen’s development 😂😂😂!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 5 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Imagine defending/celebrating Peterman’s career? That guy EMBARASSED our beloved franchise. He got a job because he was a nice guy. The ONLY people that defend Nate are the ones that wanted him to start. Instead of saying, “I was wrong. That was a mistake.” They pretend that it was a good decision and that the guy could play. Is there anyone worse than the person that can’t admit when they’re wrong? This one isn’t “debatable.” Just take the “L” and move along. Peterman was a mistake. People that wanted him were dumb before he went on the field. There are still apparently a few band members on the Titanic, playing their cellos, as the ship sits on the bottom of the ocean. I jumped on a lifeboat as soon as I heard “Peterman is starting vs. the Chargers.” I was right. There are some funny stats in here regarding Peterman. If Rodgers threw 1240 straight interceptions he would still have a better TD:INT ratio than Peterman. For some perspective, that would be every pass for 37 consecutive games 😂😂!! https://dailysnark.com/2018/11/13/nathan-peterman-finishes-with-worse-qb-rating-than-if-he-just-spiked-ball-into-ground-every-play-of-his-career/ I think you should direct your attention at those who selected him to play in games for the bills and not as much at him. He might be the worst qb ever but why hate on a guy who gave his best effort. I get not wanting to have him as your qb and even wondering g how is he still around but he’s just a dude trying to make the best life for himself. He made 5 million bucks in 6 years…. I bet he is doing just fine. And I bet he would want nothing more than a chance to bring those stats up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Sometimes the truth hurts!! I just read someone crediting Peterman for Allen’s development 😂😂😂!!! Kirb: always speak the truth … your ma must be proud! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 25 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: I think you should direct your attention at those who selected him to play in games for the bills and not as much at him. He might be the worst qb ever but why hate on a guy who gave his best effort. I get not wanting to have him as your qb and even wondering g how is he still around but he’s just a dude trying to make the best life for himself. He made 5 million bucks in 6 years…. I bet he is doing just fine. And I bet he would want nothing more than a chance to bring those stats up. People that “try hard” don’t belong in the NFL. I would say “he earned a lot of money” but he didn’t “earn” anything. He was given it. He stole jobs from more capable people. He’s not the first, nor the last. I have WAY more sympathy for the people that never got those NFL checks that were more deserving. Why do you want to celebrate that scrub? That guy embarrassed this franchise. I don’t “wish him the best.” He’s made WAY more than he deserved. He should be selling phone cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills2022 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 20 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Sometimes the truth hurts!! I just read someone crediting Peterman for Allen’s development 😂😂😂!!! He did. People forget Allen go hurt in year 1. Many thought he had a Tommy John type injury. What Peterman did was take some of the beating Josh would have taken, especially against the Ravens in week 1. The Bills were awful in Allen's first year. Their receivers could not get separation and the line could not block. Nate took one for the team. Even Josh had more interceptions than TD's in 2018. Offense was atrocious. It all worked out for Allen. Thanks in a small part to Peterman. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak-O Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 The funny thing is, however much we mock Peterman he’s still probably better at his job than everyone on this message board. He’s what, one of the one hundred best quarterbacks in the world give or take? I doubt any of us are among the best one hundred in the world at whatever we do. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Freak-O said: The funny thing is, however much we mock Peterman he’s still probably better at his job than everyone on this message board. He’s what, one of the one hundred best quarterbacks in the world give or take? I doubt any of us are among the best one hundred in the world at whatever we do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Freak-O said: The funny thing is, however much we mock Peterman he’s still probably better at his job than everyone on this message board. He’s what, one of the one hundred best quarterbacks in the world give or take? I doubt any of us are among the best one hundred in the world at whatever we do. Anyone who is good at their job would take offense at being told that they are worse than a guy who makes way below the average annual salary in his profession. I should also point out that Peterman is statistically the worst QB to play in NFL in modern history. https://dailysnark.com/2018/11/13/nathan-peterman-finishes-with-worse-qb-rating-than-if-he-just-spiked-ball-into-ground-every-play-of-his-career/ Here is a quote for you to savor : "Nathan Peterman finishes his tenure with the Bills with a lower QB rating than if he simply spiked the ball straight into the ground on every play of his career." Imagine being so bad that your stats could be improved by just throwing the ball into the dirt every play. Edited September 3, 2022 by prissythecat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 34 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: People that “try hard” don’t belong in the NFL. I would say “he earned a lot of money” but he didn’t “earn” anything. He was given it. He stole jobs from more capable people. He’s not the first, nor the last. I have WAY more sympathy for the people that never got those NFL checks that were more deserving. Why do you want to celebrate that scrub? That guy embarrassed this franchise. I don’t “wish him the best.” He’s made WAY more than he deserved. He should be selling phone cards. Jelly? What part of anything I said indicate I want to celebrate him? You seem overly emotional over a someone who has not had much of an impact on any nfl team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 I'm just wondering how anyone would care all that much about this. And how Nate Paterman getting cut has gotten 5 pages of attention lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bills2022 said: He did. People forget Allen go hurt in year 1. Many thought he had a Tommy John type injury. What Peterman did was take some of the beating Josh would have taken, especially against the Ravens in week 1. The Bills were awful in Allen's first year. Their receivers could not get separation and the line could not block. Nate took one for the team. Even Josh had more interceptions than TD's in 2018. Offense was atrocious. It all worked out for Allen. Thanks in a small part to Peterman. 😀 Nate gets ZERO credit for Josh Allen’s development!! The Bills wanted to bring Allen along slowly. He was very raw. Peterman made it a half. He was so awful (again) that the Bills had to hand the keys to Josh to avoid losing the locker room. They all knew how bad Peterman was!! The mental gymnastics that you’re playing to credit Peterman is insane. That guy is/was a scrub. 44 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: Jelly? What part of anything I said indicate I want to celebrate him? You seem overly emotional over a someone who has not had much of an impact on any nfl team. Not at all, I’ve made it to exactly where I want in life. I’m good bro. I will never sit around here and let people change history. I’m going to make sure everyone remembers exactly how bad that scrub is/was. If people want to wax poetic, I’ll share clips. Until we all agree “he’s the worst QB ever and an embarrassment to this franchise” my work here isn’t done. Edited September 3, 2022 by Kirby Jackson 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Claude Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Well, the guy hasn't thrown an interception in 3 years. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: He did have that perfect TD pass to Zay Jones to take the lead against Houston…. Only to give it right back with a pick 6 to seal it for them. 👌🏻 I was there 🤦🏻♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 45 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: I'm just wondering how anyone would care all that much about this. And how Nate Paterman getting cut has gotten 5 pages of attention lol This topic is made possible by viewers like you... 😊 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 6 hours ago, Bills2022 said: He did. People forget Allen go hurt in year 1. Many thought he had a Tommy John type injury. What Peterman did was take some of the beating Josh would have taken, especially against the Ravens in week 1. The Bills were awful in Allen's first year. Their receivers could not get separation and the line could not block. Nate took one for the team. Even Josh had more interceptions than TD's in 2018. Offense was atrocious. It all worked out for Allen. Thanks in a small part to Peterman. 😀 Nate why don't you post on Bears Boards? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak-O Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, prissythecat said: Anyone who is good at their job would take offense at being told that they are worse than a guy who makes way below the average annual salary in his profession. I should also point out that Peterman is statistically the worst QB to play in NFL in modern history. https://dailysnark.com/2018/11/13/nathan-peterman-finishes-with-worse-qb-rating-than-if-he-just-spiked-ball-into-ground-every-play-of-his-career/ Here is a quote for you to savor : "Nathan Peterman finishes his tenure with the Bills with a lower QB rating than if he simply spiked the ball straight into the ground on every play of his career." Imagine being so bad that your stats could be improved by just throwing the ball into the dirt every play. He’s good enough to still have a place in the NFL after all these years. How many of all the people who play football ever make it there? Extremely few. He also earns pretty well and I’m sure his life is quite sweet. You can mock him all you want but he would never trade his career for yours. Edited September 3, 2022 by Freak-O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Freak-O said: He’s good enough to still have a place in the NFL after all these years. How many of all the people who play football ever make it there? Extremely few. He also earns pretty well and I’m sure his life is quite sweet. You can mock him all you want but he would never trade his career for yours. He’s not good enough!! Lol, he isn’t a threat to anyone around him and knows the playbook. He’s a good guy. They cut him and added him back to the practice squad. It’s the same thing that teams do to Davis Webb and Matt Barkley. “You aren’t here to play. You aren’t capable of that. You’re here to be a nice guy and help in meetings.” Peterman is a homeless man’s Davis Webb. He’s Davis Webb for the 2nd worst roster in football. Edited September 3, 2022 by Kirby Jackson 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: He’s not good enough!! Lol, he isn’t a threat to anyone around him and knows the playbook. He’s a good guy. They cut him and added him back to the practice squad. It’s the same thing that teams do to Davis Webb and Matt Barkley. “You aren’t here to play. You aren’t capable of that. You’re here to be a nice guy and help in meetings.” Peterman is a homeless man’s Davis Webb. He’s Davis Webb for the 2nd worst roster in football. How can you forget the Snow Game! Nate was a legend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak-O Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: He’s not good enough!! Lol, he isn’t a threat to anyone around him and knows the playbook. He’s a good guy. They cut him and added him back to the practice squad. It’s the same thing that teams do to Davis Webb and Matt Barkley. “You aren’t here to play. You aren’t capable of that. You’re here to be a nice guy and help in meetings.” Peterman is a homeless man’s Davis Webb. He’s Davis Webb for the 2nd worst roster in football. He was good enough to get drafted and is good enough to still have some sort of function on a team. He’s really bad by NFL standards but just reaching the NFL and staying there for several years is something very, very few athletes manage to achieve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Freak-O said: He was good enough to get drafted and is good enough to still have some sort of function on a team. He’s really bad by NFL standards but just reaching the NFL and staying there for several years is something very, very few athletes manage to achieve. He shouldn’t have been drafted. He WASN’T good enough for that but he was drafted. If you went back and redrafted that year there’s NO chance that we would be selected. That’s what we call a mistake. He’s not the 1st or last guy in that scenario. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of guys that could have accomplished more than him if given the opportunity instead. He’s made $4.8M and they haven’t. That doesn’t mean that he was EVER better. It means people THOUGHT that he was so they gave him an opportunity to prove it. He failed, epically. There is nothing but regret from everyone that gave him that opportunity. Don’t get that confused. He is good enough to coach. That’s what he is now. He’s a de facto “assistant QB coach.” If Fields ever goes down the Bears will bring in someone else to backup Siemian. Nate will continue to help everyone grasp the offense. The plan isn’t to “play in an emergency.” He will never play again (in a meaningful game). Edited September 3, 2022 by Kirby Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: He shouldn’t have been drafted. He WASN’T good enough for that but he was drafted. If you went back and redrafted that year there’s NO chance that we would be selected. That’s what we call a mistake. He’s not the 1st or last guy in that scenario. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of guys that could have accomplished more than him if given the opportunity instead. He’s made $4.8M and they haven’t. That doesn’t mean that he was EVER better. It means people THOUGHT that he was so they gave him an opportunity to prove it. He failed, epically. There is nothing but regret from everyone that gave him that opportunity. Don’t get that confused. He is good enough to coach. That’s what he is now. He’s a de facto “assistant QB coach.” If Fields ever goes down the Bears will bring in someone else to backup Siemian. Nate will continue to help everyone grasp the offense. The plan isn’t to “play in an emergency.” He will never play again (in a meaningful game). Don't get me wrong, he sucks by starting QB standards (possibly the worst game 1 starter in NFL history), and we get that you absolutely hate him, but to say he doesn't deserve to be in the NFL and there are "thousands of guys" as good or better than him is wrong. He earned the right the same as any other player who made it to the top level. Everything he showed us during camp and preseason during his first two years said that this was a guy who was going to be, at worst, a capable backup in the NFL. Obviously, when the regular season bullets began to fly, his brain seemed to malfunction and you clearly couldn't put him on the field for more than a series or two (if that) before he became rattled and began vomiting the ball over to the opponent. I don't want him on this team ever again, but I don't doubt that he can serve some purpose as a mentor and practice arm in the mold of Barkley - another guy who has been kept around with zero intention of him ever seeing the field. Again, I agree with you that he was absolutely horrible when he saw the field in the regular season. There is no denying that - both stats and eyeballs confirmed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 6 hours ago, Freak-O said: You can mock him all you want but he would never trade his career for yours. 3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Peterman is a homeless man’s Davis Webb. He’s Davis Webb for the 2nd worst roster in football. 🤣 For context, AJ McCarron (who's currently not an NFL player) "earned" about $15.6 million over 8 years. That's some serious clipboard holding excellence!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: Don't get me wrong, he sucks by starting QB standards (possibly the worst game 1 starter in NFL history), and we get that you absolutely hate him, but to say he doesn't deserve to be in the NFL and there are "thousands of guys" as good or better than him is wrong. He earned the right the same as any other player who made it to the top level. Everything he showed us during camp and preseason during his first two years said that this was a guy who was going to be, at worst, a capable backup in the NFL. Obviously, when the regular season bullets began to fly, his brain seemed to malfunction and you clearly couldn't put him on the field for more than a series or two (if that) before he became rattled and began vomiting the ball over to the opponent. I don't want him on this team ever again, but I don't doubt that he can serve some purpose as a mentor and practice arm in the mold of Barkley - another guy who has been kept around with zero intention of him ever seeing the field. Again, I agree with you that he was absolutely horrible when he saw the field in the regular season. There is no denying that - both stats and eyeballs confirmed. There are lots of college QBs that could have accomplished what he did. LOTS and if you take all of the years of LOTS of guys you may reach 1,000. Nothing he showed, said capable backup. He wasn’t. They WANTED him to be that. They were wrong. He was a waste of a pick. He was a waste of resources. He’s a nice guy. All of that is true. I believe that. I believe every QB in the USFL, XFL, CFL, etc… could have done what he’s done. He’s the worst ever. How many guys that didn’t get a chance could have been that bad? He didn’t “earn” the right. He was “given” the opportunity. Don’t confuse those 2. Is it crazy to think that Joe Licata from UB could have done what Nate did? That’s the kind of guy that I’m talking about. Just throw a dart at a random college QB in the last decade and they could have been better. That doesn’t mean that they would have ever been good. It doesn’t mean that they all deserved NFL spots. It just means that they could have been better than Nate. That’s the point. He got the opportunity. They didn’t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 36 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: There are lots of college QBs that could have accomplished what he did. LOTS and if you take all of the years of LOTS of guys you may reach 1,000. Nothing he showed, said capable backup. He wasn’t. They WANTED him to be that. They were wrong. He was a waste of a pick. He was a waste of resources. He’s a nice guy. All of that is true. I believe that. I believe every QB in the USFL, XFL, CFL, etc… could have done what he’s done. He’s the worst ever. How many guys that didn’t get a chance could have been that bad? He didn’t “earn” the right. He was “given” the opportunity. Don’t confuse those 2. Is it crazy to think that Joe Licata from UB could have done what Nate did? That’s the kind of guy that I’m talking about. Just throw a dart at a random college QB in the last decade and they could have been better. That doesn’t mean that they would have ever been good. It doesn’t mean that they all deserved NFL spots. It just means that they could have been better than Nate. That’s the point. He got the opportunity. They didn’t. I know you feel passionately about your position, but I disagree (and I really don't care about Nate or how he's perceived). It wasn't about the team WANTING him to be anything. We didn't have a great QB situation at the time and Peterman went out and won those jobs with his preseason play. Check out his preseason stats from his first three years, especially his second year where he earned the starting nod (and at that time the team didn't WANT him to be anything which is why they drafted Josh and signed McCarron). https://www.footballdb.com/players/nathan-peterman-peterna01 Thousands of guys wouldn't have outplayed Josh and McCarron or put up those types of preseason stats...lol. That is just such ridiculous hyperbole, I can't let it slide. Look around the NFL at the preseason QBs chucking it around in the 3rd and 4th quarters of those games. There are some absolutely horrid guys out there by NFL standards that are getting shots to put themselves on film. Nate was a mistake in that he didn't work out for the Bills, but you can say the same of 95% of QBs drafted in the 4th round or lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: He didn’t “earn” the right. He was “given” the opportunity. Don’t confuse those 2. Is it crazy to think that Joe Licata from UB could have done what Nate did? That’s the kind of guy that I’m talking about. Just throw a dart at a random college QB in the last decade and they could have been better. That doesn’t mean that they would have ever been good. It doesn’t mean that they all deserved NFL spots. It just means that they could have been better than Nate. That’s the point. He got the opportunity. They didn’t. Another comparable is Kevin Hogan who had an excellent career at Stanford, and has the brains but not the arm to play the position. He was a 5th rounder for the KC Chiefs. In 7 seasons (he's not currently an active NFL player) he's made $2.6 million. In my eyes he's a better player than Peterman but quite a bit of career longevity is being in the right place at the right time. This means making good career decisions but also, having a little bit of luck too. And that's the same for most of our careers... decision making + luck = quality of career 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 On 8/30/2022 at 8:03 PM, Bills2022 said: Chicago is releasing quarterback Nathan Peterman, according to Ian Rapoport of NFL Media. But the Bears do intend to bring Peterman back for their practice squad as their third quarterback. Peterman will earn between 15K-20K per week on the practice squad because he is a Veteran. 300-400K a year to be on an NFL roster. Peterman has a great life. My guess is he will be on some NFL coaching staff one day. Smart guy. As said by many, 4.8M already, now this. Wow. Kids, strive to be a 3rd stringer backup QB! Good for your health, best game ticket in the house, and you get the mullah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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