Success Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 I trust Beane, McD, the Pegulas and this whole organization to do the RIGHT thing. That thing has yet to be determined - but I have 100% faith in them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just want to say this thread has been one hell of a ride. See y’all on page 80. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, Doc said: True. Neither then should be a guy having sex with a girl who tells him she's 18. And yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Doc said: True. Neither then should be a guy having sex with a girl who tells him she's 18. yet it is in 33 states Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: He didn't say that. Let's be adults about this. I'm being deductive, admittedly I'm doing so in a semi irritated manner, but that's also the logical road the OP set himself on by blaming a child for lying and underage drinking and saying the person who had sex with her shouldn't necessarily face consequences for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: I've read all 63 pages and at least four news articles covering the topic. I'm sufficiently satisfied this guy is scum. At a minimum he took advantage of a drunk girl unable to consent, and at its worst he led her into a room to be repeatedly assaulted. I want no part of him on the team. I dont care or need to care about due process. That's his problem not the Bills'. Cutting him has nothing to do with legal innocence. He's a punter and one of multiple guys that can be replaced with a street free agent or trade. He is not worth one minute of negative press. If McDermott believes what he preaches then he should have cut him a month ago. Yep. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Mango said: Both of which should still protect her from being raped. Violently, of course. Statutorily...not so much. Just now, GoBills808 said: And yet... We'll see where this goes. Again the Bills said they investigated it and still kept him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, Ethan in Portland said: I've read all 63 pages and at least four news articles covering the topic. I'm sufficiently satisfied this guy is scum. At a minimum he took advantage of a drunk girl unable to consent, and at its worst he led her into a room to be repeatedly assaulted. I want no part of him on the team. I dont care or need to care about due process. That's his problem not the Bills'. Cutting him has nothing to do with legal innocence. He's a punter and one of multiple guys that can be replaced with a street free agent or trade. He is not worth one minute of negative press. If McDermott believes what he preaches then he should have cut him a month ago. The inability to consent by virtue of intoxication is what’s on my radar now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Simon said: This is what you said about "after Araiza": Woman then has sex with other men the same night after him. Do you understand why I want to punt you out an airlock right now? You just crossed the line with that comment. I'm not going to go all keyboard warrior here. Any chance you live in RI? Your other comments are fully accepting allegations as facts. The events described by the accuser seem to exonerate the accused. Just so you understand, if he is guilty, I hope he gets jail. Until proven, because the current details seem a little suspect so far, I'm not going to say he is guilty. Do you comprehend that? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Shockingly poor judgment by Araiza… He knew the NFL draft was only months away, and he was going to be a top pick, yet didn’t have a plan in place to stay away from situations that put his future at risk… Not very bright… Big leg… Small brain… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Josh Allen already told yall we aint punting this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Are we really attached to a guy we apparently only signed 3 days ago? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, appoo said: I'm being deductive, admittedly I'm doing so in a semi irritated manner, but that's also the logical road the OP set himself on by blaming a child for lying and underage drinking and saying the person who had sex with her shouldn't necessarily face consequences for that You said rape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Success said: I trust Beane, McD, the Pegulas and this whole organization to do the RIGHT thing. That thing has yet to be determined - but I have 100% faith in them. like when they and all the other owners told Goodell to give Watson only 11 games when Watson himself had said he would accept 12 prior to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: The inability to consent by virtue of intoxication is what’s on my radar now. Wait what if Punt god was drunk ??? Did he give concent??? ps I’m just saying alcohol can affect both parties it doesn’t make it right either way but they could have both been drunk and woke up like wtf Edited August 26, 2022 by mikemac2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, Warcodered said: Are we really attached to a guy we apparently only signed 3 days ago? Wow this is already a really bad look for us wtf 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, Doc Brown said: You said rape. HAVING SEX WITH A PERSON UNABLE TO GIVE CONSENT AKA BEING DRUNK IS RAPE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, Mr. WEO said: yet it is in 33 states And the legal age of consent is 16+ in 40 states. Means nothing as we're talking about California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: You said rape. No the victim with the bruises and the bleeding organs said rape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Steptide said: I agree, but having him play the next day!? I mean, on what day is it acceptable for him to play then? Apparently (per Wawrow article) the Bills have known about this for something like 6 weeks. That's certainly long enough for them to have looked into it and decided based upon what they learned, whether the allegations were credible or not and whether or not they were going to discipline or cut him. If there are criminal charges, or new evidence comes to light, their POV could change of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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