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On 6/13/2022 at 11:32 AM, Jauronimo said:

NYR is no Avalanche and they found a lot of time and space against Tampa.  NYR's speed gave Tampa all they could handle.  That doesn't bode well against an even faster and more talented Colorado offense.  I don't think anyone can slow down Colorado.  The Blues were red hot and Colorado steamrolled them.  

 

Avs in 6.

 

I don't think Tampa has a snowballs chance of taking a series from these guys.

I'll see your 6 and name that tune in 5.

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Great game so far!  Tampa was having trouble dealing with Colorado’s speed in the 1st but looked better in the 2nd. Vasilevskiy also looked much better in the 2nd after not having a great opening period. Can’t wait to see the 3rd.

 

Colorado’s speed + skill is going to cause Tampa issues all series but Tampa has a big advantage in net and they just know how to win when the pressure is on.

and Vasilevskiy is so clutch! Palat is too. I wanted Buffalo to trade for palat years back when Tampa was trying to trade him and Tyler Johnson to clear cap space.

 

I don’t know if they’ll be able to handle Colorado’s speed though. It should be a very exciting series. I am expecting it to go to game 7.

 

 

 

 

Makar is just so fun to watch. That Makar/Toews pairing is fantastic. What a steal of a trade Toews was for a couple 2nds.

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35 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

Great game so far!  Tampa was having trouble dealing with Colorado’s speed in the 1st but looked better in the 2nd. Vasilevskiy also looked much better in the 2nd after not having a great opening period. Can’t wait to see the 3rd.

 

Colorado’s speed + skill is going to cause Tampa issues all series but Tampa has a big advantage in net and they just know how to win when the pressure is on.

and Vasilevskiy is so clutch! Palat is too. I wanted Buffalo to trade for palat years back when Tampa was trying to trade him and Tyler Johnson to clear cap space.

 

I don’t know if they’ll be able to handle Colorado’s speed though. It should be a very exciting series. I am expecting it to go to game 7.

 

 

 

 

Makar is just so fun to watch. That Makar/Toews pairing is fantastic. What a steal of a trade Toews was for a couple 2nds.


Palat is an UFA after this season and Tampa has cap trouble and Buffalo has a lot of money to throw at him.

He’d be a good guy to go after for sure.

 

 

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53 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

 

Makar is just so fun to watch. That Makar/Toews pairing is fantastic. 

 

He's become one of the best players the world, but he may have just played his worst game of the postseason. 🤷‍♂️

That was certainly the sloppiest I've seen Colorado look so far; I guess a smart veteran team can do that to you.

 

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1 hour ago, Greg S said:

The Avs are so fast and relentless. I can't see TB winning 4 of 5 now. Maybe they get a game at home. I originally thought TB would win but now I would say Avs in 5. 

Local article from this morning:

 

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/sports/2022/06/19/are-the-running-out-of-gas-vs-fresher-avalanche-

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1 hour ago, T&C said:

Whatever helps them sleep at night.  Fully rested, Tampa does not have the skaters to keep up with the Avs.  Tampa's only hope is to slow down the game and win the puck possession game.  Its going to have to be system rather than matchups.  I don't know how they do it.  Stack the blue line?

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3 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

Whatever helps them sleep at night.  Fully rested, Tampa does not have the skaters to keep up with the Avs.  Tampa's only hope is to slow down the game and win the puck possession game.  Its going to have to be system rather than matchups.  I don't know how they do it.  Stack the blue line?

The only way Tampa has any hope is to get up a couple of goals early, but, like you said... it's like they are skating in slow motion. Experience is the only other thing I can think of that they have going for them besides the better goalie but when the puck is in your end what seems like 2/3 of the games so far any goalie is going to give up goals. The local news guys are trying with the rah rah stuff but it's easy to see that they don't have much confidence with their reports.

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33 minutes ago, T&C said:

Well, that didn't go well. 

We knew Tampa was going to come out motivated on home ice after losing by a touchdown and getting shutout but I don't think anyone expected it to go quite like that.  If Tampa evens it up, the collars get a little bit tighter on the Colorado bench.

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8 hours ago, Greg S said:

Not surprised Tampa won. I figured they would get one at home. I am surprised it was a blowout. This makes game 4 interesting.

Wonder how differently the game would have went if the 1st goal, disallowed for offside's by a half an inch which was the correct call, had counted. Tampa looks to be without a couple of crucial players tomorrow night... mainly Kucherov. Really hope the Av's win tomorrow night and head back to the high altitude at home for the clincher.

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Sucks that the game ended in controversy.

 

 

Even the official score sheet showed 6 skaters on the ice for Colorado.

 

sucks for Colorado because now if they win the cup there will be an asterisk next to it (not that they’ll care) even though they’ve been the better team.

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9 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

Sucks that the game ended in controversy.

 

 

Even the official score sheet showed 6 skaters on the ice for Colorado.

 

sucks for Colorado because now if they win the cup there will be an asterisk next to it (not that they’ll care) even though they’ve been the better team.

Why though? The players aren't officials, they don't call penalties. Maybe it made up for the 1st goal of the game lol. That one was bizarre... you can whack a goalie in the face with your stick, knock his mask off, and then score.

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8 minutes ago, T&C said:

Why though? The players aren't officials, they don't call penalties. Maybe it made up for the 1st goal of the game lol. That one was bizarre... you can whack a goalie in the face with your stick, knock his mask off, and then score.

 

Im not saying I would consider there to be an asterisk next to the cup win. But you know how these things work. I’m already seeing a bunch of articles about the controversial goal and lots of fans saying the win wasn’t legitimate.

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14 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

 

Im not saying I would consider there to be an asterisk next to the cup win. But you know how these things work. I’m already seeing a bunch of articles about the controversial goal and lots of fans saying the win wasn’t legitimate.

Yeah, I saw what you posted above and some other stuff. I guess if they're going to be mad at anyone it should be the officials. And, like you said, the Av's players or fans don't give a crap. I'm sure I'll hear plenty about it on the local Tampa sports radio channel (620am) in a bit when I go out to do a couple of errands.

 

We've been through enough bad/questionable calls... no goal, forward lateral, etc. to know how it feels. If it wasn't Tampa I'd have a little empathy but... so sorry lightning fans lol.

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So I headed out to do a couple of things and put on the Tampa sports radio right at noon when the local programming starts. Listened for maybe 35 minutes and they were talking about the game last night but Never mentioned too many men on the ice... so idk. 

 

They then went on about how it looks grim for the lightning and that "we" should all be proud of the team no matter what... they outright said that the players are slow compared to the Av's and that they are out manned. 

 

One other thing, I wonder if there was some confusion with the refs after the goal as the puck went awol for a few seconds and that's how they didn't catch the extra man on the ice. Or, it was determined that he was heading straight for the bench so it was allowed. I'm going to try and watch the end of the game again... it's hot as ***** here right now and I don't feel like doing anything outside in the middle of the day when it's like this so I've got free time.

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3 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

 

Im not saying I would consider there to be an asterisk next to the cup win. But you know how these things work. I’m already seeing a bunch of articles about the controversial goal and lots of fans saying the win wasn’t legitimate.

 

Ironically Tampa Bay has benefitted from scoring goals with too many men on the ice in the two previous Stanley Cup finals. 

 

https://eyesonisles.com/posts/islanders-fans-have-no-pity-on-tampa-game-4-loss

 

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3 hours ago, T&C said:

So I headed out to do a couple of things and put on the Tampa sports radio right at noon when the local programming starts. Listened for maybe 35 minutes and they were talking about the game last night but Never mentioned too many men on the ice... so idk. 

 

They then went on about how it looks grim for the lightning and that "we" should all be proud of the team no matter what... they outright said that the players are slow compared to the Av's and that they are out manned. 

 

One other thing, I wonder if there was some confusion with the refs after the goal as the puck went awol for a few seconds and that's how they didn't catch the extra man on the ice. Or, it was determined that he was heading straight for the bench so it was allowed. I'm going to try and watch the end of the game again... it's hot as ***** here right now and I don't feel like doing anything outside in the middle of the day when it's like this so I've got free time.


too many men is a judgement call so either they didn’t see it or they saw it and didn’t think it was too many men on the ice. 
 

It’s hard to see in that clip but when I was watching the game live it looked to me like MacKinnon was within 5ft of the bench when Kadri took possession of the puck, which would mean it wasn’t too many men on the ice (afaik the rule is within 5ft of the bench).

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5 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

If Kadri didn’t score there, Colorado would have ended it soon.  TB was totally defeated and running on fumes.   Come to think of it, I don’t think TB possessed the puck in their offensive zone in OT 🤷🏾‍♂️

Agreed except TB would have gone on the power play.

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16 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Also, it's not at all uncommon for the team that's getting dominated to pop an unexpected goal in OT. Tbh that's what I expected last night.

Any hockey game can always see a crazy goal pop in at any moment, but Colorado was totally dominating in that OT.  They still had plenty of energy and TB was burned out almost completely.

 

Colorado is the better team and flat out the best team in hockey right now.

 

I think they'll finish this thing off next game.

 

I keep watching these 2 teams and thinking "Crap, this is the standard the Sabres need to build up to."
 

We have an enormously long way to go.

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Any hockey game can always see a crazy goal pop in at any moment, but Colorado was totally dominating in that OT.  They still had plenty of energy and TB was burned out almost completely.

 

Colorado is the better team and flat out the best team in hockey right now.

 

I think they'll finish this thing off next game.

 

I keep watching these 2 teams and thinking "Crap, this is the standard the Sabres need to build up to."
 

We have an enormously long way to go.

 

 

Have thought the exact same thing but at least we've turned the corner. Eichel was supposed to be a key piece but man did they turn it around after he was jettisoned... watchable games, more of a united team. 

 

I was out and about this morning/afternoon and didn't see Any lightning gear anywhere when that crap is usually all over the place... the sports guys on the radio and local tv have basically called it a day for Tampa. 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

Who do we like tonight?  I got Avs to win in regulation (-130) and the Over 6 (-105).  Also have a sprinkle on Nate MacKinnon as first goal scorer (+800).

Man oh man is this game intense... go Av's, seal it with a goal... or two.

 

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1 hour ago, T&C said:

Boom goes the Lightning... excellent finish!

 

The 'Ning Dynasty comes to an end!

 

Was it just me or did Tampa seem to always be complaining about something in this series? They might not have won the title, but they sure are champions at whining and complaining.

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