Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 The problem with the Bills is the one who calls the plays, Frazier never calls stunts or dials up innovative blitz packages. We could have Bruce and Reggie on the line and still have problems sacking the Qb but when McDermott pulls the playbook there seems to be no problem sacking the Qb. I think if McDermott had his way Frazier would be gone, I think Terry and Kim are forcing Frazier on McDermott. The big problem with the Bills line is the Defensive Tackles they just don’t have the size and the leverage to have opposing Qb’s worrying about the collapsing of the pocket and on first and second downs giving running backs the ability to get 5 to 6 yards a play or just left running freely in the secondary aka a lot of Taylor’s runs when we played the Colts. 2 5 5 1 3 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: The problem with the Bills is the one who calls the plays, Frazier never calls stunts or dials up innovative blitz packages. We could have Bruce and Reggie on the line and still have problems sacking the Qb but when McDermott pulls the playbook there seems to be no problem sacking the Qb. I think if McDermott had his way Frazier would be gone, I think Terry and Kim are forcing Frazier on McDermott. The big problem with the Bills line is the Defensive Tackles they just don’t have the size and the leverage to have opposing Qb’s worrying about the collapsing of the pocket and on first and second downs giving running backs the ability to get 5 to 6 yards a play or just left running freely in the secondary aka a lot of Taylor’s runs when we played the Colts. McDermott has pulled the playbook precisely once in 5 years. And Frazier is 100% his guy. They go back 20 years together. He is not being forced on McDermott by the owners. This crusade you have against Frazier is tiresome. And it needs to stop. 9 2 1 1 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: The problem with the Bills is the one who calls the plays, Frazier never calls stunts or dials up innovative blitz packages. We could have Bruce and Reggie on the line and still have problems sacking the Qb but when McDermott pulls the playbook there seems to be no problem sacking the Qb. I think if McDermott had his way Frazier would be gone, I think Terry and Kim are forcing Frazier on McDermott. The big problem with the Bills line is the Defensive Tackles they just don’t have the size and the leverage to have opposing Qb’s worrying about the collapsing of the pocket and on first and second downs giving running backs the ability to get 5 to 6 yards a play or just left running freely in the secondary aka a lot of Taylor’s runs when we played the Colts. Stunts are a huge part of the Bills defense. They are typically called by the players. Blitzing isn't a huge part of the defense and Blitzing good QB's typically isn't smart football. Edited February 13, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede 4 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NI Bills Fan Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 I would agree with Gunner... the chargers game in 2018 is the only occassion i can remember McDermott officially taking over defensive play calling duties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) The Rams had the #1 defense in 2020. Gave up 32 points and 500 yards in a loss to Aaron Rodgers in the division round last year. In 2019 the Patriots had the #1 defense and gave up 200 yards rushing to the Titans in a loss in the wild card round. We have good coaches. They made a couple bad decisions in the playoffs. They deserve criticism, but be better Bills fans. You don't fire a coach like Frazier over that. We don't even know what happened. Edited February 13, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 1 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 It's astonishing how everything in that post is wrong. 4 4 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 hour ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: It's astonishing how everything in that post is wrong. I have never seen someone say so little and yet say so many wrong things consecutively. It's impressive, actually. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: The problem with the Bills is the one who calls the plays, Frazier never calls stunts or dials up innovative blitz packages. We could have Bruce and Reggie on the line and still have problems sacking the Qb but when McDermott pulls the playbook there seems to be no problem sacking the Qb. I think if McDermott had his way Frazier would be gone, I think Terry and Kim are forcing Frazier on McDermott. The big problem with the Bills line is the Defensive Tackles they just don’t have the size and the leverage to have opposing Qb’s worrying about the collapsing of the pocket and on first and second downs giving running backs the ability to get 5 to 6 yards a play or just left running freely in the secondary aka a lot of Taylor’s runs when we played the Colts. In a word, moronic. Edited February 13, 2022 by Chandler#81 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 hour ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: It's astonishing how everything in that post is wrong. Yup, every single thing. I mean, he managed to throw in grammar problems, capitalization, spacing, typos ... I think you're right, it's really everything. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I have never seen someone say so little and yet say so many wrong things consecutively. It's impressive, actually. He’s actually right what are people saying is the biggest need this off season is again? Pass Rusher and CB. We have so much money and picks tied up into the defense and never play any of the guys we draft. One of these two things is correct it’s either the coaches or Beane for drafting these guys cause they never play 4 hours ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: The problem with the Bills is the one who calls the plays, Frazier never calls stunts or dials up innovative blitz packages. We could have Bruce and Reggie on the line and still have problems sacking the Qb but when McDermott pulls the playbook there seems to be no problem sacking the Qb. I think if McDermott had his way Frazier would be gone, I think Terry and Kim are forcing Frazier on McDermott. The big problem with the Bills line is the Defensive Tackles they just don’t have the size and the leverage to have opposing Qb’s worrying about the collapsing of the pocket and on first and second downs giving running backs the ability to get 5 to 6 yards a play or just left running freely in the secondary aka a lot of Taylor’s runs when we played the Colts. You aren’t wrong 13 seconds says it all when we play an offense with a pulse we get lit up like a Christmas Tree 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: He’s actually right what are people saying is the biggest need this off season is again? Pass Rusher and CB. We have so much money and picks tied up into the defense and never play any of the guys we draft. One of these two things is correct it’s either the coaches or Beane for drafting these guys cause they never play You aren’t wrong 13 seconds says it all when we play an offense with a pulse we get lit up like a Christmas Tree Echoing wrong statements doesn't make them correct.🤷🏻♂️ 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: We could have Bruce and Reggie on the line and still have problems sacking the Qb When people post dumb comments like that I stop reading. I can only imagine what the rest of your masterpiece contains. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Echoing wrong statements doesn't make them correct.🤷🏻♂️ Name me the marquee qb he faced this year and shut down? Mac Jones? Let’s face it if Mahomes had the ball 50 times he’d score on 49 of them in that game 1 minute ago, Beast said: When people post dumb comments like that I stop reading. I can only imagine what the rest of your masterpiece contains. He’s actually right 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: He’s actually right https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/sacks-per-game Buffalo ranked 12th overall in sacks and those numbers down thebstretch were particularly impressive. The Bills also pressured the heck out of Mahomes but he was able to escape that pressure much the way Allen escaped KC's pressure. So, really, the both of you are wrong. Edited February 13, 2022 by Beast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: McDermott has pulled the playbook precisely once in 5 years. And Frazier is 100% his guy. They go back 20 years together. He is not being forced on McDermott by the owners. This crusade you have against Frazier is tiresome. And it needs to stop. Watch the saints game this year when they put the camera on McDermott and he standing there and all of a sudden goes into his back pocket and pulls out a small play book, watch the Tampa Bay game when the Bills are getting blitzed and then you see McDermott talking to Frazier on the sidelines and his running plays in his hand for Frazier next thing Brady can’t move the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Beast said: https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/sacks-per-game Buffalo ranked 12th overall in sacks and those numbers down thebstretch were particularly impressive. The Bills also pressured the heck out of Mahomes but he was able to esvape that pressure much the way Allen escaped KC's pressure. So, really, the both of you are wrong. They scored 42 points you would be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Beast said: https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/sacks-per-game Buffalo ranked 12th overall in sacks and those numbers down thebstretch were particularly impressive. The Bills also pressured the heck out of Mahomes but he was able to esvape that pressure much the way Allen escaped KC's pressure. So, really, the both of you are wrong. For years people would say sacks are overrated pressures are equally important. I used to agree, now I don't. Pressures are still important, but i think it's more important to hit and sack the QB regularly. I don't think QB's worry as much about pressure anymore, pretty easy to beat it. Gotta sack and force turnovers and make the QB feel some pain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Beast said: https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/sacks-per-game Buffalo ranked 12th overall in sacks and those numbers down thebstretch were particularly impressive. The Bills also pressured the heck out of Mahomes but he was able to esvape that pressure much the way Allen escaped KC's pressure. So, really, the both of you are wrong. Mahomes had a clean jersey the whole game. There was no pressure and racked 12 in sacks yeah a majority of them came against the Jets and they have a franchise Qb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: Watch the saints game this year when they put the camera on McDermott and he standing there and all of a sudden goes into his back pocket and pulls out a small play book, watch the Tampa Bay game when the Bills are getting blitzed and then you see McDermott talking to Frazier on the sidelines and his running plays in his hand for Frazier next thing Brady can’t move the ball. McDermott contributes of course he does, nobody is saying different. But Frazier calls the defense. The one time he didn't was second half of the Chargers game 2018. 2 minutes ago, klos63 said: For years people would say sacks are overrated pressures are equally important. I used to agree, now I don't. Pressures are still important, but i think it's more important to hit and sack the QB regularly. I don't think QB's worry as much about pressure anymore, pretty easy to beat it. Gotta sack and force turnovers and make the QB feel some pain. I think the difference is Quarterbacks are more mobile on average to escape pressure. So you have to be able to finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Name me the marquee qb he faced this year and shut down? Mac Jones? Let’s face it if Mahomes had the ball 50 times he’d score on 49 of them in that game He’s actually right Chiefs actually punted twice in that game...so that's an incorrect statement. There were also 8/13 on 3rd down. They stopped Mahomes on a few drives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: Mahomes had a clean jersey the whole game. The Bills sacked Mahomes twice and put pressure on him all game. He just beat the pressure. Why do you have to make up lies to force your narrative? Edited February 13, 2022 by Beast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Chiefs actually punted twice in that game...so that's an incorrect statement. There were also 8/13 on 3rd down. They stopped Mahomes on a few drives. Man two punts from the number 1 defense? Wow look out 85 Bears 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: McDermott contributes of course he does, nobody is saying different. But Frazier calls the defense. The one time he didn't was second half of the Chargers game 2018. I think the difference is Quarterbacks are more mobile on average to escape pressure. So you have to be able to finish. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 32 minutes ago, Beast said: When people post dumb comments like that I stop reading. I can only imagine what the rest of your masterpiece contains. Prove me wrong? 2 minutes ago, klos63 said: Exactly You are wrong he has pulled the playbook every time his job is in jeopardy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 How many of you on this board if Sean McDermott either quit, resigned or was fired would be happy if Frazier replaced him as head coach? Answer with the number 1. 1 minute ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: How many of you on this board if Sean McDermott either quit, resigned or was fired would be happy if Frazier replaced him as head coach? Answer with the number 1. Oh you support Frazier that’s one. This is fun let’s keep going. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 5 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: The Rams had the #1 defense in 2020. Gave up 32 points and 500 yards in a loss to Aaron Rodgers in the division round last year. In 2019 the Patriots had the #1 defense and gave up 200 yards rushing to the Titans in a loss in the wild card round. We have good coaches. They made a couple bad decisions in the playoffs. They deserve criticism, but be better Bills fans. You don't fire a coach like Frazier over that. We don't even know what happened. Rams had gone to a SB. Pats have 6 rings. Also rankings are meaningless unless adjusted for level of competition faces. Frazier and this D crumble in games against good QB’s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: You are wrong he has pulled the playbook every time his job is in jeopardy. I mean this is just factually inaccurate. I know facts are considered old fashioned these days.... but the facts are clear. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: Prove me wrong? You are wrong he has pulled the playbook every time his job is in jeopardy. Not what I was talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, klos63 said: Not what I was talking about. Okay what then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Rams had gone to a SB. Pats have 6 rings. Also rankings are meaningless unless adjusted for level of competition faces. Frazier and this D crumble in games against good QB’s. Typically these types of conversation happen after years of 1st round exists in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Typically these types of conversation happen after years of 1st round exists in the playoffs. well, we haven’t played good/great QB’s early in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I mean this is just factually inaccurate. I know facts are considered old fashioned these days.... but the facts are clear. Okay you remember the Jets game last year in the New Jersey when in the first half we let Sam Darnold run up and down the field against us we could not stop him all of a sudden the second half was different we’re in the first half we did not sack Darnold but in the second we sacked him 6 times and did not give up a 1 down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: well, we haven’t played good/great QB’s early in the playoffs. Oh boy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Oh boy... name one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: McDermott has pulled the playbook precisely once in 5 years. And Frazier is 100% his guy. They go back 20 years together. He is not being forced on McDermott by the owners. This crusade you have against Frazier is tiresome. And it needs to stop. If only there were people who could make this **** stop on this forum.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoros Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 hour ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Name me the marquee qb he faced this year and shut down? Mac Jones? Let’s face it if Mahomes had the ball 50 times he’d score on 49 of them in that game He’s actually right It wasn’t the whole game, but Brady was shut down the second half of the Bucs game, and without Tre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Rams had gone to a SB. Pats have 6 rings. Also rankings are meaningless unless adjusted for level of competition faces. Frazier and this D crumble in games against good QB’s. Don’t forget the Rams the previous week went to Seattle and there defense made Russel Wilson look bad and Aaron Donald got hurt in that game and played in Green Bay and was not the same. 2 minutes ago, Malazan said: If only there were people who could make this **** stop on this forum.. No this is the truth and the truth hurts lesile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 5 hours ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: The problem with the Bills is the one who calls the plays, Frazier never calls stunts or dials up innovative blitz packages. We could have Bruce and Reggie on the line and still have problems sacking the Qb but when McDermott pulls the playbook there seems to be no problem sacking the Qb. I think if McDermott had his way Frazier would be gone, I think Terry and Kim are forcing Frazier on McDermott. The big problem with the Bills line is the Defensive Tackles they just don’t have the size and the leverage to have opposing Qb’s worrying about the collapsing of the pocket and on first and second downs giving running backs the ability to get 5 to 6 yards a play or just left running freely in the secondary aka a lot of Taylor’s runs when we played the Colts. Did Leslie sleep with your wife? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: name one! Name a great QB we faced in the playoffs? It's the playoffs! Lamar Jackson? Watson? Mahomes obviously. I mean who are the better AFC QB's before this season? That's basically 3 of the top 5 in AFC. We haven't faced Burrow or Herbert yet. Herbert has to actually get to the playoffs. Edited February 13, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Tanoros said: It wasn’t the whole game, but Brady was shut down the second half of the Bucs game, and without Tre. Yeah after McDermott is drawing plays in his hand to show Frazier what to run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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