Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 27 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Hey get it out of the way now. Once the playoffs start he'll be in a 90 day testing holiday so guaranteed not to miss due to Covid. If we make the playoffs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 minute ago, HamptonBillsfan said: All well and good, but the poster indicated he was OK with McKenzie replacing Cole going forward because he wasn't having a good year. Ah I see. Well I wouldn't say going all the way forward, but I'm confident in McKenzie taking over for Bease a couple games if needed... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamptonBillsfan Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: No, they don't. Many of them are smarter than that. Hes not hurting the team? Fooled me. How so?. The team supports him, he plays hurt, and 76 grabs for 640 as a slot receiver is good production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, wppete said: What is Feliciano talking about? He was in the hospital? I thought he had an injury? Brutal Beasley is out let’s hope no more players test positive. Feliciano said he needed to go to the hospital on Sunday for the Covids, out and at a hotel today but got a monoclonal Ab treatment. Wishing him a speedy recovery. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Can some one please explain the difference to me why if either a vaccinated player or unvaccinated player tests negative that one can play and the other can't or has to wait a extended period of time ? If they (vaccinated or unvaccinated) are negative for the virus that means that they don't have it any more correct ?? So what's the deal is it just to punish the guy that decides he doesn't want to get the vaccination (that's what it looks like to me) because if you do as they use to say "Follow the Science" And you test negative which the science says if you test negative you no longer have the virus so if you no longer have it you can no longer pass it on because you test negative & no longer have it then why do you need to wait the extra time to play ? But then if you do have the vaccine and can still get it & pass it on why do they only have to test once a week wouldn't it make more sense to test every body every day to make sure vaxxed or not that you don't have it ?? If you can come up with a reasonable common sense explanation PLEASE dear god PLEASE let me know what it is !! 6 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Just now, HamptonBillsfan said: How so?. The team supports him, he plays hurt, and 76 grabs for 640 as a slot receiver is good production. He is unavailable for the biggest game of the year. How are you not hurting the team when you aren't on the field against the New England Patriots and are sitting home once again popping off on twitter and making yourself the center of a sideshow days before the biggest game of the year? 3 1 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, T master said: Can some one please explain the difference to me why if either a vaccinated player or unvaccinated player tests negative that one can play and the other can't or has to wait a extended period of time ? If they (vaccinated or unvaccinated) are negative for the virus that means that they don't have it any more correct ?? So what's the deal is it just to punish the guy that decides he doesn't want to get the vaccination (that's what it looks like to me) because if you do as they use to say "Follow the Science" And you test negative which the science says if you test negative you no longer have the virus so if you no longer have it you can no longer pass it on because you test negative & no longer have it then why do you need to wait the extra time to play ? But then if you do have the vaccine and can still get it & pass it on why do they only have to test once a week wouldn't it make more sense to test every body every day to make sure vaxxed or not that you don't have it ?? If you can come up with a reasonable common sense explanation PLEASE dear god PLEASE let me know what it is !! if youre vax and still test pos - you can and usually have a very low viral load (the antibodies circulating in your body neutralize )- so you dont typically get sick and your chances of spreading are greatly reduced if youre not vax -opposite Edited December 22, 2021 by balln 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Would have been nice to have him Sunday. I guess Twitter and Instagram will keep him busy until hes cleared to play football again. We are back to preseason Bills with half the team going off the rails on social media days before we play for the division title. McD likely realized this was a throwaway season after seeing half of the starters remain unvaxed week after week. Every one of these players needs to be gone in the off-season. 2 1 6 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evian Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, HappyDays said: They haven't treated unvaccinated and vaccinated players equally since the start. The complaints that Beasley has now were the same complaints he had in the offseason. Agree with it or not those have been the rules. All of the unvaccinated players have known they were at greater risk of missing games, irrespective of the vaccine's efficacy. The NFL just changed the rules. That is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, HappyDays said: They haven't treated unvaccinated and vaccinated players equally since the start. The complaints that Beasley has now were the same complaints he had in the offseason. Agree with it or not those have been the rules. All of the unvaccinated players have known they were at greater risk of missing games, irrespective of the vaccine's efficacy. Agree, but the NFL just changed their "rules" again in the past week. In addition, with the 1st opportunity to enforce a "forfeit" or at least keep the game as scheduled, they decided to reschedule multiple games. I have a problem with that inconsistent enforcement. NFL set the original rules, just stick to that, or at the very least don't adjust them to make even more biased/subjective. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: I literally just said the same exact thing to my wife...Only Tuesday, no telling how many more we may lose between now and weekend. But what ya gona do..... Pats* might lose a bunch too, though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 minute ago, balln said: if youre vax and still test pos - you can and usually have a very low viral load - so you dont typically sick and your chances of spreading are greatly reduced if youre not vax -opposite Reduced but no guarantee that you can't pass it on & there is still a chance that you can correct ? although it may be small . So if the chance is still there wouldn't it make more sense to treat every one the same & have the same amount of time away to reduce that chance to spread it even more ? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Governor said: McD likely realized this was a throwaway season after seeing half of the starters remain unvaxed week after week. Every one of these players needs to be gone in the off-season. It's not half the starters though, that would be 26 and half players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Evian said: The NFL just changed the rules. That is the problem. Though in the case of unvaccinated v vaccinated players, the former are still at a disadvantage, which has been the case all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, T master said: Reduced but no guarantee that you can't pass it on & there is still a chance that you can correct ? although it may be small . So if the chance is still there wouldn't it make more sense to treat every one the same & have the same amount of time away to reduce that chance to spread it even more ? its not black or white. simply put vax populations greatly stopped the spread. you can not put a vax person in the same bucket /category as an unvax person immunologically or from a public health perspective. ill add. all the data. all the agencies. all the countries are in aggreement on this. its not your local loser youtuber talking about politics and religion and rights > and illogically deducing vaccine science conclusions Edited December 22, 2021 by balln 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: “I’m sure he didn’t get this kind of energy”. Well, no… because he was vaccinated. And would have probably been in a worse state if he hadn’t been so thank goodness Feliciano took it up. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Does Cole realize that by him believing and acknowledging that he may not have gotten tested if he just got vaccinated, that he’d probably be playing and helping his team in the biggest game of the year if he just took a shot? Maybe he should have done the unselfish thing and just got vaccinated. He could still voice his opinion on it, but he could’ve played. 2 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 28 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: There's gotta be a better way to get that point across than by saying if it were up to him, he'd play while sick, full well knowing he was infecting others Maybe I misread but I think he was more saying the system is unfair and they should test everyone and he’s being singled out. I didn’t really read that snippet as advocating people playing sick but I didn’t read the full statement if there’s more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Reports from the UK is that 90% of those in hospital being treated for Covid are unvaccinated. Good to hear Beasley is fine but the vaccination v treatment approach outlined his reply to Feliciano is stupid to put it mildly. Treatments take longer to implement and also means a hospital bed is taken up to carry them out. Well, not quite. There are a couple of things uninformed about it, though. Preventive medicine like vaccines are always less expensive than disease treatment, and this is no exception. Vaccines (like Prevnar) normally sell for about $200/dose. The various Covid vaccines are being sold to the US Gov't currently for between $4 to <$20/dose. A single pharmacist can administer at least 20 doses/hr, more if it's a clinic where one person is checking the paperwork and filling out vaccine cards, another is drawing up doses, a third is administering them. 6 doses fit in a tiny vial, and racks and racks of vials can fit in a freezer box. Monoclonal antibodies are far more expensive to produce, store, ship, and administer. Regeneron is currently selling its mAb treatment to the go'vt at a discount- $2,100 dose (a mAb treatment may normally cost $5,000-7,000). The treatments can be given on an out-patient basis, so they don't take up a hospital bed, but they do take up a treatment room and the attention of a nurse for 90 minutes. The patient to staff ratio should be something like 1:5 to be sure the IVs are all running smoothly, no air, no blown veins, no adverse reactions. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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