Chef Jim Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Doc said: Why should ex-felons be allowed to vote? Because they served their time. Why shouldn’t they? I’ve never understood this. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: Because they served their time. Why shouldn’t they? I’ve never understood this. I’d take a real vote from a former felon over a vote from a harvested ballot any day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Just now, SCBills said: Clemency review to forgive court ordered fines of ex-felons in Florida. Nikki Fried, amongst others, were involved with state GOP on this. Tell us more about SB 7066. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 This is really today’s debate? When we get to the point where the voting rights of ex-felons is the LAST problem remaining to be fixed…let me know. 😉 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, BillStime said: Tell us more about SB 7066. It allows felons to vote. What’s your issue with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: It allows felons to vote. What’s your issue with it? Wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, BillStime said: Wrong. Set me straight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chef Jim said: Set me straight Amendment 4 (approved by Florida voters) restored the right to vote for ex felons with the exception of murder or sexual offences in 2018. In 2019, DeSantis signed Republican sponsored Senate bill 7066, which requires ex-felons to pay off all outstanding fines, fees, and restitutions before regaining their right to vote. @SCBills - Nikki had nothing to do with the later. SB7066 is the definition of Jim Crow - what a hill to die on bro! Edited March 5, 2022 by BillStime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: Amendment 4 (approved by Florida voters) restored the right to vote for ex felons with the exception murder or sexual offences in 2018. In 2019, DeSantis signed Republican sponsored Senate bill 7066, which requires ex-felons to pay off all outstanding fines, fees, and restitutions before regaining their right to vote. @SCBills - Nikki had nothing to do with the later. SB7066 is the definition of Jim Crow - what a hill to die on bro! As a convicted felon you relinquish you ability to participate in a law abiding society which includes your ability to vote. Once you have fully repaid your debt to society you will be allowed to participate in society. Yeah I know….THE HOOROR!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 43 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Because they served their time. Why shouldn’t they? I’ve never understood this. Should they get back all the other civil rights they lose as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 1 hour ago, SCBills said: Who had the country of Ukraine trying to cancel Coca-Cola on their 2022 war bingo card? I know if my country were under seige and in imminent danger of being taken over, I'm definitely checking to make sure a soda company is giving a proper "counterattack." What a total sham this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Should they get back all the other civil rights they lose as well? Absolutely! It’s called repaying your debt to society. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: As a convicted felon you relinquish you ability to participate in a law abiding society which includes your ability to vote. Once you have fully repaid your debt to society you will be allowed to participate in society. Yeah I know….THE HOOROR!! Nice job redefining what it means to repay your debt to society... That's not what Floridians passed when 65% of them voted in favor of Amendment 4. Of course the Republicans would pass SB7066 because there is no way we can have those who PAID THEIR DEBT TO SOCIETY possibly vote against the GQP. smfh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Absolutely! It’s called repaying your debt to society. We'll agree to disagree then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 8 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Putin is just the latest example of the eventuality of your lefty socialist utopia, just like every brutal dictator in all of history. Every single one. You keep missing this very obvious and redundant history lesson. He literally came to power after they stopped being Communist, and every brutal dictator in history was socialist...really? I mean if you're going to complain about socialism or even social programs at least reach for the level of basic common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Doc said: We'll agree to disagree then. Why do you think they should not? 13 minutes ago, BillStime said: Nice job redefining what it means to repay your debt to society... That's not what Floridians passed when 65% of them voted in favor of Amendment 4. Of course the Republicans would pass SB7066 because there is no way we can have those who PAID THEIR DEBT TO SOCIETY possibly vote against the GQP. smfh How are they redefining it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: How are they redefining it? You are - keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 "Spread Russian Propaganda" Libs are complete fascist thugs. Good luck to teachers trying teach about this now. Classes only going to be: Teacher: "Putin is evil we must stop him." Student: "Does Russia have a historical claim....as in the beginnings of modern day Russia have roots in Kiev? Can you explain this?" Teacher: "We're moving on to the next boring cookie cutter indoctrination lesson." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) It’s absolutely insane. We’re reacting at home EXACTLY the same way we did after 9/11. -Western way is the only way -X people are bad -Suspend personal freedoms under the guise of imminent danger -American involvement in a country that has nothing to do with us is necessary -Wrap yourself in the flag to deflect any criticism Edited March 5, 2022 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, Warcodered said: He literally came to power after they stopped being Communist, and every brutal dictator in history was socialist...really? I mean if you're going to complain about socialism or even social programs at least reach for the level of basic common sense. the fourth grade reading comprehension around here is tiresome.. ok… to break this down Eventuality - first look up that word and understand it’s meaning. In this context the intent was contingent occurrence. next, this is a slight bit more of a stretch, but understand how socialist utopia and communism are synonymous. now with this understanding please re read your first nine words and see how you literally exemplified my point. thx! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, SCBills said: It’s absolutely insane. We’re reacting at home EXACTLY the same way we did after 9/11. -Western way is the only way -X people are bad -Suspend personal freedoms under the guise of imminent danger -American involvement in a country that has nothing to do with us is necessary -Wrap yourself in the flag to deflect any criticism All true but this. They have bastardized the Western Way. They don't even know what this is and why it's worth defending. I've known this since 2008. They cemented it with Covid. It's the West that's in crisis and they know it. Russia's invasion of Ukraine is being used as 2 things.. 1. Distract from the disaster that is the West 2. Putin is Trump's *buddy* so that means this is how evil Trump voters are. It's being used as a Proxy for Globalists vs Nationalists. History (the warped kind) has taught them nationalism must be bad because Hitler and I learned it was a cause for WWI. Great examples! Hitler was allowed to do whatever he wanted and was ignored by weak leaders in Britain and France because the sanctions placed on Germany after WWI* that crippled their economy created the environment for the Nazis to rise to power - at the same time the world faced an unprecedented Great Depression. *Possibly the dumbest most catastrophic war in history that no one can tell you why it happened and why exactly Germany was punished the way they were. Without googling - any lefty here care to explain why that happened in your own words. Point. Nationalism and Globalism not inherently bad. Power hungry freedom suppressing lunatics are. The only side I see doing this on the scale they've been doing it are the globalists. Edited March 5, 2022 by Big Blitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 25 minutes ago, BillStime said: You are - keep up. How? Please explain. Enough of you cryptic bull####. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Wow such idiots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: the fourth grade reading comprehension around here is tiresome.. ok… to break this down Eventuality - first look up that word and understand it’s meaning. In this context the intent was contingent occurrence. next, this is a slight bit more of a stretch, but understand how socialist utopia and communism are synonymous. now with this understanding please re read your first nine words and see how you literally exemplified my point. thx! These first 9 words? 30 minutes ago, Warcodered said: He literally came to power after they stopped being did you mean 10? I mean if you don't think the period of time where the Soviet Union collapsed and Russia transitioned away from Communism and the Oligarchs rose to power is important, okay but you're probably ignoring an important chapter that connects to current events. Saying Socialist utopia equals Communism is like saying Capitalism equals Republic, sure those are two things we are but they are also two different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 25 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: How? Please explain. Enough of you cryptic bull####. Go back and read what you wrote - jfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 35 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: All true but this. They have bastardized the Western Way. They don't even know what this is and why it's worth defending. I've known this since 2008. They cemented it with Covid. It's the West that's in crisis and they know it. Russia's invasion of Ukraine is being used as 2 things.. 1. Distract from the disaster that is the West 2. Putin is Trump's *buddy* so that means this is how evil Trump voters are. It's being used as a Proxy for Globalists vs Nationalists. History (the warped kind) has taught them nationalism must be bad because Hitler and I learned it was a cause for WWI. Great examples! Hitler was allowed to do whatever he wanted and was ignored by weak leaders in Britain and France because the sanctions placed on Germany after WWI* that crippled their economy created the environment for the Nazis to rise to power - at the same time the world faced an unprecedented Great Depression. *Possibly the dumbest most catastrophic war in history that no one can tell you why it happened and why exactly Germany was punished the way they were. Without googling - any lefty here care to explain why that happened in your own words. Point. Nationalism and Globalism not inherently bad. Power hungry freedom suppressing lunatics are. The only side I see doing this on the scale they've been doing it are the globalists. It really sucks to be on the wrong side of history and always nestled in Trump's bunk. Sad hill to die on, right @SCBills !?!?!? lmao Rooting for the good guys... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, BillStime said: It really sucks to be on the wrong side of history and always nestled in Trump's bunk. Sad hill to die on, right @SCBills !?!?!? lmao Rooting for the good guys... No one is rooting for Putin. But everyone needs to understand how incompetent the leftists in the West have become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 5, 2022 Author Share Posted March 5, 2022 American woman detained (kidnapped) in Russia? Wtf?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 I check in here from time to time…usually when I am taking a crap. Holy Cow most of you people have created sad awful perceived realities for yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 1 minute ago, TH3 said: I check in here from time to time…usually when I am taking a crap. Holy Cow most of you people have created sad awful perceived realities for yourselves. Yeah, yeah, yeah…how was your crap? Don’t leave us hanging? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 33 minutes ago, BillStime said: Go back and read what you wrote - jfc I write a lot of ***** here. See there is this real cool function that’s all the rage with the kids these days. It’s called “copy and paste”. Try it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: I write a lot of ***** here. See there is this real cool function that’s all the rage with the kids these days. It’s called “copy and paste”. Try it. Shocking - YOU don't want to leverage the search functionality to highlight your hypocrisy on redefining what paying your debt to society means? LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chef Jim Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 46 minutes ago, BillStime said: Shocking - YOU don't want to leverage the search functionality to highlight your hypocrisy on redefining what paying your debt to society means? LMAO You're accusing me of hypocrisy not the search function. How am I being a hypocrite? So again how have I changed the definition of repaying your debt to society? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: You're accusing me of hypocrisy not the search function. How am I being a hypocrite? So again how have I changed the definition of repaying your debt to society? Go read your own posts man.... I don't have time for your deflections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Just now, BillStime said: Go read your own posts man.... I don't have time for your deflections. Deflections? Nope not me. I'm asking you a very simple question. You're the one that seems to have a hard time answering it. I would call that classic deflection. Soooooo let's try again. How have I redefined repaying your debt to society? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Deflections? Nope not me. I'm asking you a very simple question. You're the one that seems to have a hard time answering it. I would call that classic deflection. Soooooo let's try again. How have I redefined repaying your debt to society? So f'in lazy Jim - but of course you want be difficult - and not go back and quote your own posts when you're flip flopping on the same topic. You went from: 3 hours ago, Chef Jim said: Because they served their time. Why shouldn’t they? I’ve never understood this. To: 3 hours ago, Chef Jim said: As a convicted felon you relinquish you ability to participate in a law abiding society which includes your ability to vote. Once you have fully repaid your debt to society you will be allowed to participate in society. When you were directly confronted with the definition of Jim Crow. SMFH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, BillStime said: So f'in lazy Jim - but of course you want be difficult - and not go back and quote your own posts when you're flip flopping on the same topic. You went from: To: When you were directly confronted with the definition of Jim Crow. SMFH I did not flip flop They should be allowed to vote after they have paid their debt to society when they have paid their debt to society which is time served, fines and any restitution paid. Correct? Correct. And what in the world does this have to do with Jim Crow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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