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Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦


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6 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

SEE AFGHANISTAN STRATEGY:

 

 

The Biden administration to Americans in Ukraine if Russia invades: YOU’RE ON YOUR OWN

 

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2022/02/11/the-biden-administration-to-americans-in-ukraine-if-russia-invades-youre-on-your-own/

 

 

 

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Yup, American President is the bad guy...

 

Wow

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26 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Yup, American President is the bad guy...

 

Wow

Not a bad guy.  Just an idiot pursuing a policy designed to make him look tough that's bound to fail in many ways while delivering German and French support to Putin. Soon enough Germany and France will announce they've reached a mutual understanding between their two countries and Ukraine and Russia for a framework for moving forward with de-escalating tensions along with holding future talks and discussion between the parties.  Something which will leave the brain trust in Washington without a seat at the table.  Germany wants Russian gas and closer economic ties.  France and Russia want to weaken U.S. influence over European polices.  Ukraine wants to ensure aid and support for tighter economic integration with western Europe.  Everybody gets what they want except the knuckleheads in DC.  Just watch.  

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3 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Not a bad guy.  Just an idiot pursuing a policy designed to make him look tough that's bound to fail in many ways while delivering German and French support to Putin. Soon enough Germany and France will announce they've reached a mutual understanding between their two countries and Ukraine and Russia for a framework for moving forward with de-escalating tensions along with holding future talks and discussion between the parties.  Something which will leave the brain trust in Washington without a seat at the table.  Germany wants Russian gas and closer economic ties.  France and Russia want to weaken U.S. influence over European polices.  Ukraine wants to ensure aid and support for tighter economic integration with western Europe.  Everybody gets what they want except the knuckleheads in DC.  Just watch.  

You just make up things and sit down and type them? 

 

Putin is a thug and threatening to snuff out a republic and you are cheering it on. 

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10 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You just make up things and sit down and type them? 

 

Putin is a thug and threatening to snuff out a republic and you are cheering it on. 

I'm not making anything up.  Rather I suggest I am simply informed on the topic.  You see, I pay attention to what all the players are saying and doing.  Not just the statements coming out of the administration in Washington. 

 

You're misunderstanding my views or perhaps misstating them.  I'm not cheering anyone on.   Nor am I expressing want to happen or what I hope happens.  Only my assessment of what I expect to happen.   I think my assessment is a very likely outcome.  Certainly more likely than some prediction of a Russian invasion over the weekend.  That seems preposterous.  If this is a true and honest assessment from our intelligence community we might want to get some fresh talent into those agencies.

 

I'm curious.  What do you think happens next here?  

 

 

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4 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I'm not making anything up.  Rather I suggest I am simply informed on the topic.  You see, I pay attention to what all the players are saying and doing.  Not just the statements coming out of the administration in Washington. 

 

You're misunderstanding my views or perhaps misstating them.  I'm not cheering anyone on.   Nor am I expressing want to happen or what I hope happens.  Only my assessment of what I expect to happen.   I think my assessment is a very likely outcome.  Certainly more likely than some prediction of a Russian invasion over the weekend.  That seems preposterous.  If this is a true and honest assessment from our intelligence community we might want to get some fresh talent into those agencies.

 

I'm curious.  What do you think happens next here?  

 

 

You have no idea what will happen but you are declaring the USA will fail. Not hard to figure out where your sympathies lie 

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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

You have no idea what will happen but you are declaring the USA will fail. Not hard to figure out where your sympathies lie 

Will Trump be there in Russia camos leading the charge

On 2/7/2022 at 8:09 PM, Tiberius said:

He shouldn't have emboldened Putin by giving it to him in the first place... d'uh

Utter buffoonery.

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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

You have no idea what will happen but you are declaring the USA will fail. Not hard to figure out where your sympathies lie 


with the bang up joe is doing so far what evidence do we have he will turn this around? Guy has been a train wreck so far and the polls show it. We’re just living in reality not some fantasy land you seem to be in

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2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

You have no idea what will happen but you are declaring the USA will fail. Not hard to figure out where your sympathies lie 

 

How do we succeed?  Lay out your plan to stop Putin from invading, without involving American troops.

 

1 hour ago, Albwan said:

He shouldn't have emboldened Putin by giving it to him in the first place... d'uh

Utter buffoonery.

 

What else would a puppet do?

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3 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

SEE AFGHANISTAN STRATEGY:

 

 

The Biden administration to Americans in Ukraine if Russia invades: YOU’RE ON YOUR OWN

 

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2022/02/11/the-biden-administration-to-americans-in-ukraine-if-russia-invades-youre-on-your-own/

 

 

 

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Unfortunately our country lost all credibility after the Afghanistan debacle. At least we have a diverse military now. That should serve us well.

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24 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

Unfortunately our country lost all credibility after the Afghanistan debacle. At least we have a diverse military now. That should serve us well.

Yes, it’s very important that we have a military that ‘looks like America’. I’m sure that’ll be of some solace to the enemy when our armor piercing ammunition shatters their helmets.

 

Anyone see My Cousin Vinny? I love the scene where she asks if you think the deer gives a crap what kind of pants the hunter’s wearing when it’s little deer skull is blown to pieces. 👍

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2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

You have no idea what will happen but you are declaring the USA will fail. Not hard to figure out where your sympathies lie 

I've taken an objective view of the situation.  Please feel free to share your insights on where this might be headed.    

 

And your attempts to discredit my views by questioning my loyalties is a failure.  My loyalty is with America, but that doesn't mean I am blind to Biden's limitations and the weak team he's got in place.  That is the fault of the voters most of which I expect regret their choice.  

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11 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Yes, it’s very important that we have a military that ‘looks like America’. I’m sure that’ll be of some solace to the enemy when our armor piercing ammunition shatters their helmets.

 

Anyone see My Cousin Vinny? I love the scene where she asks if you think the deer gives a crap what kind of pants the hunter’s wearing when it’s little deer skull is blown to pieces. 👍

Touche.....im sure we'll be fine.

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4 minutes ago, BillStime said:


But Trump rebuilt our military - what happened?

 

You are American, right?

 

 

Ahhh yes...great retort. The typical response when deflecting accountability from the current administration......Blame Trump. Buckle up and congrats on your vote. 

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30 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

Ahhh yes...great retort. The typical response when deflecting accountability from the current administration......Blame Trump. Buckle up and congrats on your vote. 


Yes - it was. 
 

We spend more than every country on the planet and you think our military is remotely weak? 
 

You are a disgrace. 


Putin couldn’t be more proud in it its investment.

 

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1 minute ago, BillStime said:


Yes - it was. 
 

We spend more than every country on the planet and you think our military is remotely weak? 
 

You are a disgrace. 

You're a prince. If you disagree, I know I'm doing something right. Thanks for the positive reinforcement. 

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4 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

Agreed.....the more you speak the worse you look. Please keep regaling the masses with how great the current state of affairs are. 


Perfect. Just the way I want it. 
 

If you weren’t triggered you wouldn’t respond but you can’t help yourself.

 

PS: Trump promised to end forever wars. What happened? He campaigned on doing so and guessed what? He failed. 

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5 minutes ago, BillStime said:


Perfect. Just the way I want it. 
 

If you weren’t triggered you wouldn’t respond but you can’t help yourself.

 

PS: Trump promised to end forever wars. What happened? He campaigned on doing so and guessed what? He failed. 

Want to go for a beer?

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7 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Jake Sullivan at his WH press conference what some reporter compared what he was doing to what happened in 2003

 

"We are trying to stop a war. Back in 2003 this room, this office was being used to gin up a war" 

 

This morning, the State Department is ordering an evacuation of US embassy staff.

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2 hours ago, ALF said:

Putin does not want NATO on his border if Ukraine becomes a member. If Russia takes Ukraine the countries next to it are already in NATO. Just leave Ukraine and Belarus neutral and we are not on a hair trigger .

 

So then why the refusal by Joey to say "we will not admit Ukraine into NATO" and defuse the situation?

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7 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Yes, all this is Biden’s fault. He should let a murderous, terrorist leader tell us what we can do. Great idea 

No….Biden should LEAD FROM IN FRONT!!! We hold the purse strings in NATO. Just make a phone call and tell Ukraine you’re not joining the club. Call it the ‘perfect phone call’ and let’s get back to the business of fundamentally transforming America dammit!

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Biden warns Putin of 'severe costs' of Ukraine invasion

 

President Joe Biden on Saturday again called on President Vladimir Putin to pull back more than 100,000 Russian troops massed near Ukraine's borders and warned that the U.S. and its allies would "respond decisively and impose swift and severe costs" if Russia invades, according to the White House.

 

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-joe-biden-emmanuel-macron-europe-moscow-1f353699f0be1609da5435c98cfc8022

 

 

 

Need WWIII to distract from the disaster the left turned the world into with covid.  So how about a bigger disaster.  

 

What a mess

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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Yes, all this is Biden’s fault. He should let a murderous, terrorist leader tell us what we can do. Great idea 

 

You're the one crying about protecting Democracies.  You want bloodshed when a simple "No NATO for Ukraine" will suffice?  Just so Putin won't tell us what to do?

 

Yet you didn't have a problem with Putin telling Joey what to do about Nord Stream 2.  So which is it?

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18 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

You're the one crying about protecting Democracies.  You want bloodshed when a simple "No NATO for Ukraine" will suffice?  Just so Putin won't tell us what to do?

 

Yet you didn't have a problem with Putin telling Joey what to do about Nord Stream 2.  So which is it?


HA! This has nothing to do with NATO - and so naive to think “No NATO for Ukraine” will appease Putin. 

 

Has Putin stopped undermining the United States?

 

 

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