Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Scott7975 said: The NFL is going to try and sweep this under the rug. Who knows how many stars have gotten fake cards. If they probe this they would either have to suspend a lot of stars or it will look like they DGAF. Either way is bad for them. I expect nothing out of it unless the media uncovers it and pushes the issue. Do you really think it's that many guys? I could be hella naive, but I think most people (including NFL players) are honest. They either got the shot, or didn't and told the team they didn't. AB has been a loose cannon for a long time, but I agree with the person who said the teams that are 100% are probably the ones where peer pressure put the squeeze on guys who really did not want to vax, so they might be the ones to scrutinize. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 35 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Do you really think it's that many guys? I could be hella naive, but I think most people (including NFL players) are honest. They either got the shot, or didn't and told the team they didn't. AB has been a loose cannon for a long time, but I agree with the person who said the teams that are 100% are probably the ones where peer pressure put the squeeze on guys who really did not want to vax, so they might be the ones to scrutinize. I have no clue if its a guy, a couple guys, a lot of guys. One thing I do know is a lot of rich celebs think they are above and would do something stupid like this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Just now, Scott7975 said: I have no clue if its a guy, a couple guys, a lot of guys. One thing I do know is a lot of rich celebs think they are above and would do something stupid like this. I mean, I'm sure you're right, but I don't know; even Aaron Rodgers was honest with the team and the NFL. There are probably a couple of Those Guys on a lot of teams though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I mean, I'm sure you're right, but I don't know; even Aaron Rodgers was honest with the team and the NFL. There are probably a couple of Those Guys on a lot of teams though. Its not that I think they are all over the league. Its just that if by chance there are... the NFL really doesnt want to find out. Think of it like this... If there are just 4 stars around the league on teams competing for a Super Bowl and those teams rely on those guys and fans watch football because of those guys... they have two choices. One suspend them heavily and also expose them to possibly federal charges or two do nothing and look like their Covid rules and protections are all BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 12 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Yeah, some people dislike Florio but he pretty well has it right here IMO: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/11/20/antonio-browns-former-chef-claims-brown-got-fake-vaccination-card-from-another-player/ It is getting more and more difficult to remain emotionally invested in the NFL; which is maybe a good thing? I'm 43 now, so I was in 7th grade when the Bills (SB XXV) first broke my heart (I remember the AFCCG two years prior breaking my family's hearts, but I wasn't yet fully invested). The majority of memories over the next 30 years are punctuated by pain. And I'm thankful for the life lessons this legacy has taught me. This resilience has served me well through multiple recessions, crises, and personal reconstructions. But the current state of officiating, combined with Goodell's ongoing legacy of an absolute rejection of accountability and transparency across many scandals and crises, including the COVID pandemic, has me questioning the fundamental on-field/competitive realities in ways I resisted up until now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 On 11/19/2021 at 9:06 PM, YoloinOhio said: TB personnel checking vax cards: Is he frisking people, or is that a religious gesture? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Is he frisking people, or is that a religious gesture? 🤔 Given the robe Id say this is a Catholic mass of some sort. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 14 hours ago, HalftimeAdjustment said: A lot depends on whether the guys with fake cards have already had COVID-19. Not sure what that has to do with it? The issue is not whether they have had COVID or not, the issue is they lied about being vaccinated, and forged documents to intentionally deceive people. And in this case, it is a Federal crime. The issue is they lied. And, if so, and if the NFL is serious about player safety--and their public reputation and credibility--they will actually seek to do something meaningful about it. If not, then so what, let them all do what they want and move on. If you get it, you sit, if not, play ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Given the robe Id say this is a Catholic mass of some sort. Well, green is technically a vestment colour. I just didn't realize 'optic lime' qualified. 🤔😁 * Given WNY's Catholic population, I wonder how many have gone to an earlier service than usual, and where the priest ends the homily "Go Bills!" * EDIT: Might well be. Bills Blue on the bottom, optic lime on top. 😁 Edited November 21, 2021 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 The NFL is a business. Recent employee problems include a coach nearly killing a young girl in a drunken car crash. A player killing a young woman in a drunken car crash. An inappropriate private email sent by an employee, when they were not employee, nine years ago. Multiple instances of domestic violence. It seems like the ALLEGATION of a false medical record is pretty far down the list of problems the NFL deals with. 4 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Well, green is technically a vestment colour. I just didn't realize 'optic lime' qualified. 🤔😁 * Given WNY's Catholic population, I wonder how many have gone to an earlier service than usual, and where the priest ends the homily "Go Bills!" Never heard a priest say that during a homily. Have heard that after the Mass is over before people leave though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 4 hours ago, CSBill said: Not sure what that has to do with it? The issue is not whether they have had COVID or not, the issue is they lied about being vaccinated, and forged documents to intentionally deceive people. And in this case, it is a Federal crime. The issue is they lied. And, if so, and if the NFL is serious about player safety--and their public reputation and credibility--they will actually seek to do something meaningful about it. If not, then so what, let them all do what they want and move on. If you get it, you sit, if not, play ball. I am pretty sure the NFL is not going to dig into the possibility of widespread fake cards. And if the players with fake cards do not subsequently get COVID-19, then the NFL will easily be able to sweep it under the rug as unsubstantiated rumors. Aftere all there is no real way for the public to know whether 0, 1, 2, 10, 50, or 100 players faked cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JohnBonhamRocks Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Mr Big Chef was right! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krf139 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Unfortunate the Bucs get no penalty for this after saying previously how they found no issue with his vaccine card when it was presented Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 2, 2021 Author Share Posted December 2, 2021 Lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Lol Lol. At least the lawyer doesn't say Brown is innocent. Brown probably got vaccinated later on but submitted a fake card. Brown isn't the smartest human being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krf139 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 My guess is fans who commit the same offense trying to enter a Bills game suffer a greater penalty than this 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, krf139 said: Unfortunate the Bucs get no penalty for this after saying previously how they found no issue with his vaccine card when it was presented Makes you wonder how thoroughly they checked everyone's card to get to that 100% they were touting. 1 minute ago, krf139 said: My guess is fans who commit the same offense trying to enter a Bills game suffer a greater penalty than this Three game checks? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Just now, BRH said: Makes you wonder how thoroughly they checked everyone's card to get to that 100% they were touting. Probably didn't. Someone has to snitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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