oldmanfan Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 The three losses and the tough game last week show the main problem: our O line simply isn’t strong. And by that I mean actual physical strength. Has nothing to do with blocking schemes (although how Williams lets that guy walk in unblocked the last series is a mystery), coaching, play calling. It is simply that the guys on our O line do not have the physical strength to move guys in the run game not stand up to guys rushing. How many times have we seen guys just get pushed straight back by a D lineman? I think I saw it every passing play this game, at least one lineman got blown up. If your guys are physically weaker than their guys, there’s no quick fix. It’s not like guys like Morse or Ike are going to suddenly get stronger. At this point all you can do is put guys like Bates or the other rookie T in there and hope they can bear up. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 The time to work on this was the bye week. 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 We just need to hope brown coming back to RT and shifting Williams to RG will be enough. had a feeling this was going to happen. OL, RBs and run game puts our passing game in jeopardy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I feel like Oline is a place you can find off a PS or in-house. I wouldn’t say it’s unfixable…you just have to do some work to find some physicality. Start scanning the PS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Holidays are upon us. I’ll pack on a few extra pounds and give it a go! I promise to at least remember the snap count! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 No running backs worth a damn on the roster doesnt help either 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, PaulieYayo said: No running backs worth a damn on the roster doesnt help either That is the OL. And why RBs are a dime a dozen in the NFL 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marky Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 There were similar problems last year. By the Steelers Sunday night game, it was supposedly fixed. Chiefs brought it out but WRs were all limping besides Diggs who got mobbed. Three awful turnovers, Edmunds roughing the passer, and Dawkins belly flopping a guy when he was already on the ground. They looked hung over or sick or something. I think I had covid. It's sort of like how they acted. Healthy one day, sick the next, irritable and just mental blocks, like you know something but just can't think of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, NewEra said: We just need to hope brown coming back to RT and shifting Williams to RG will be enough. Williams is a big worry... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said: Williams is a big worry... he is. But that’s the deck we’ve been dealt this year. More often than not, Williams is exposed by the speed rush. At least he won’t be on an island playing RG. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, PaulieYayo said: No running backs worth a damn on the roster doesnt help either At what point do you just say “listen fellas, you ain’t getting the job done. We’re gonna start giving other guys opportunities until someone steps up” I was never a fan of the Brieda sign but can it get an worse. We also have Williams who had a great game against Miami last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, NewEra said: We just need to hope brown coming back to RT and shifting Williams to RG will be enough. had a feeling this was going to happen. OL, RBs and run game puts our passing game in jeopardy. Brown wasn't even supposed to start this year. Beane did little to address the OL, and it is coming back to bite them. I think it will be the major area of concentration next off season. A good RB is also needed--- there is no ground game currently (other than Allen scrambles). Edited November 8, 2021 by par73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Every play in the punt formation until Josh hurts his arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, benderbender said: Every play in the punt formation until Josh hurts his arm. this is not an entirely bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: The three losses and the tough game last week show the main problem: our O line simply isn’t strong. And by that I mean actual physical strength. Has nothing to do with blocking schemes (although how Williams lets that guy walk in unblocked the last series is a mystery), coaching, play calling. It is simply that the guys on our O line do not have the physical strength to move guys in the run game not stand up to guys rushing. How many times have we seen guys just get pushed straight back by a D lineman? I think I saw it every passing play this game, at least one lineman got blown up. If your guys are physically weaker than their guys, there’s no quick fix. It’s not like guys like Morse or Ike are going to suddenly get stronger. At this point all you can do is put guys like Bates or the other rookie T in there and hope they can bear up. Yeah this is completely true. I wouldn’t say it’s the entire OL but definitely the two guards. If you can fault Brandon Beane it’s not trying to upgrade from Cody Ford and John Feliciano. Ford was injured, so maybe you can give him a pass. Not really sure there was any reason to re-sign Feliciano who probably won’t be here in 2022. Morse is not the most physically imposing Center but he’s a good pass blocker and IMO is good enough at Center. 21 minutes ago, BananaB said: At what point do you just say “listen fellas, you ain’t getting the job done. We’re gonna start giving other guys opportunities until someone steps up” I was never a fan of the Brieda sign but can it get an worse. We also have Williams who had a great game against Miami last year. Brieda was activated for Moss during Week 1. He didn’t fare any better because there was nowhere to run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Yeah this is completely true. I wouldn’t say it’s the entire OL but definitely the two guards. If you can fault Brandon Beane it’s not trying to upgrade from Cody Ford and John Feliciano. Ford was injured, so maybe you can give him a pass. Not really sure there was any reason to re-sign Feliciano who probably won’t be here in 2022. Morse is not the most physically imposing Center but he’s a good pass blocker and IMO is good enough at Center. Brieda was activated for Moss during Week 1. He didn’t fare any better because there was nowhere to run. He got like 3 carries. 😂 They got their mind made up on him after 3 carries but can’t decide between Motor and Moss after a year and a half of mediocre play. 🤣 They just combined for 20 yards against a 1-6 team. Believe me buddy, it can’t get any worse. Edited November 8, 2021 by BananaB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heels20X6 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I say it’s time to call up Christian Wade. Let’s get some speed at RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Heels20X6 said: I say it’s time to call up Christian Wade. Let’s get some speed at RB. Anything at this point. Call Old man Gore and McCoy ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, BananaB said: He got like 3 carries. 😂 They got their mind made up on him after 3 carries but can’t decide between Motor and Moss after a year and a half of mediocre play. 🤣 They just combined for 20 yards against a 1-6 team. Believe me buddy, it can’t get any worse. Right, but how much of that 20 yards was the fault of the running backs versus the O-Line? I am willing to bet it’s mostly the line which is why I don’t think Breida will make much of a difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, BananaB said: He got like 3 carries. 😂 They got their mind made up on him after 3 carries but can’t decide between Motor and Moss after a year and a half of mediocre play. 🤣 They just combined for 20 yards against a 1-6 team. Believe me buddy, it can’t get any worse. This is what I’m thinking, at least he has speed who knows maybe he gets lucky and breaks one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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