HappyDays Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 31 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I do find his press conference today to be a bit interesting in that he claims to not have got the vaccine because he's allergic to some ingredients. If that's the case, then why go off on "woke mobs and cancel culture" in the next statement as the allergic claim would be a valid reason for not getting it, make your whole statement about that alone. If he's trying to make it into being about both, really makes me question the allergic claim. Also the allergy is only tied to 2 of the vaccines. His stated reason for not taking the 3rd vaccine (the Johnson & Johnson one) is because it was tied to blood clots. But based on data that is a poor excuse. https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/coronavirus-vaccine-blood-clots Quote By May, 9 million doses had been administered and the number of rare blood clot cases had grown to 28, six of them in men, according to the CDC. If you assume 50% of the 9 million doses went to men, that is an incidence rate of 0.00013333%, AKA 1.33 in a million chance for men. The chance of him having a severe covid case is much greater than that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 49 minutes ago, QCity said: Matt LaFleur just gave an epic press conference, he looks like a man about to snap. "Ask me a question about the Chiefs or our football team, I'm not gonna answer anything else." Reporter: "I'm sorry to ask this because I don't think you've seen the interview..." LaFleur: "THEN DON'T ASK IT, LANCE" Linky? Although I must say, Flores should "take a Memo" from this. Way to tame the press corps, LaFleur - Whip and Chair optional! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukestreetking Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Hall monitor here: can we please/please keep the discussion w/n parameters suggested by Hap above? I'm not trying to be The Forum D-bag, but some are way over their skis (exception @Ham Sandwich) talking about this/that treatment or drug. Towards this end, I will not give an opinion re monoclonals, mR vax effectiveness, ivermectin value, etc. Imho, the biggest issue is AR as player rep in light of Shield-NFLPA agreement, and behaviors that followed. "Lying" publicly is relatively less important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 17 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Also the allergy is only tied to 2 of the vaccines. His stated reason for not taking the 3rd vaccine (the Johnson & Johnson one) is because it was tied to blood clots. But based on data that is a poor excuse. https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/coronavirus-vaccine-blood-clots If you assume 50% of the 9 million doses went to men, that is an incidence rate of 0.00013333%, AKA 1.33 in a million chance for men. The chance of him having a severe covid case is much greater than that. Rodgers said "yeah" to "are you vaccinated?" and then "I've been immunized" during an August 26 interview. He said the J&J vaccine was "not an option" for him because it was stopped for blood clots "at that time". Use of the J&J vaccine was paused for 10 days (April 13-April 23) to allow records review, after which the rarity of the blood clots was determined to be 7 in 1 million in women 18-49 and rarer than that for men or women over 50. He doesn't want to get vaccinated for Covid- which is 100% his right under the NFLPA/NFL CBA. He owes no one an explanation of exercising that right. Why lie about it? That's just being a p i e less little worm, when you don't have to be. Especially don't lay claim to some kind of retroactive moral high ground for resisting "unjust" laws you lied to avoid scrutiny for instead of taking a stance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 38 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I haven't heard Aaron Rodgers say "we don't know what is in them", nor did he claim ivermectin = immunization. Am I wrong? Both the mRNA vaccines contain polyethelene glycol 2000. PEG allergy is an established "thing", which can be verified by skin prick or intradermal tests. It is rare, but possible he may have it. It would impact the person's ability to use a wide number of medications and cosmetic products as well as these specific vaccines. I don't know if he made the State Farm ads or other prohibited appearances during the season - do you? I did hear he had a Halloween party at his house and went to a party with the team, which would appear to be a protocol violation. Wonder if the NFL will try to investigate that and/or how far they'll get if they do. I'm not a "fan" of Rodgers behavior but I am trying to be fair here. he said he was immunized and now we know he meant because he took ivermectin that his new "best friend" (Rogan(lol) who took it and promoted it) Rodgers alluded recommended it. It has been widely reported he made some of the adds after being told by NFL he is in unvaxx category. most anit vaxxers cry no one should take vaccines because we don't know what is in them. I was being somewhat facetious on that. Rodgers never claimed that that i know of. yes he could be allergic but it is super rare as no latex, mercury, eggs, or gelatin, are in these. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 I really like Pat McAfee, find him incredibly entertaining etc., but this fawning interview was painful in how obviously Pat was walking on eggshells not to step on Aaron’s toes in anyway or call him out on his obfuscating B.S., imho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, cba fan said: he said he was immunized and now we know he meant because he took ivermectin that his new "best friend" (Rogan(lol) who took it and promoted it) Rodgers alluded recommended it. It has been widely reported he made some of the adds after being told by NFL he is in unvaxx category. most anit vaxxers cry no one should take vaccines because we don't know what is in them. I was being somewhat facetious on that. Rodgers never claimed that that i know of. yes he could be allergic but it is super rare as no latex, mercury, eggs, or gelatin, are in these. I mean did he specifically say what he did or is that something people are inferring from talking about taking advice from Joe Rogan who is know for that? The allergy thing is something real people deal with with vaccines and why getting to herd immunity is so important, though I will say given Rodgers level of honesty on this issue so far not sure I buy him being one of them. 2 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: I really like Pat McAfee, find him incredibly entertaining etc., but this fawning interview was painful in how obviously Pat was walking on eggshells not to step on Aaron’s toes in anyway or call him out on his obfuscating B.S., imho. I think he mostly was just giving Aaron a platform to speak out, and afterwards he basically stayed in the middle and stayed safe but took shots at the outrage hype machine from both sides which is fair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I mean did he specifically say what he did or is that something people are inferring from talking about taking advice from Joe Rogan who is know for that? The allergy thing is something real people deal with with vaccines and why getting to herd immunity is so important, though I will say given Rodgers level of honesty on this issue so far not sure I buy him being one of them. I think he mostly was just giving Aaron a platform to speak out, and afterwards he basically stayed in the middle and stayed safe but took shots at the outrage hype machine from both sides which is fair. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/05/aaron-rodgers-says-hes-unvaccinated-takes-ivermectin-and-bashes-woke-mob.html Edited November 5, 2021 by cba fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 26 minutes ago, cba fan said: he said he was immunized and now we know he meant because he took ivermectin that his new "best friend" (Rogan(lol) who took it and promoted it) Rodgers alluded recommended it. I thought he meant he took the ivermectin for his current covid infection, for which the mfr, FDA, and WHO say "no evidence it's effective." 26 minutes ago, cba fan said: It has been widely reported he made some of the adds after being told by NFL he is in unvaxx category. OK, not cool then and I hope the NFL takes some action against him, especially since they went for my boi Lil Dirty and Beasley over being briefly unmasked. 26 minutes ago, cba fan said: yes he could be allergic but it is super rare as no latex, mercury, eggs, or gelatin, are in these. As indicated above, allergy to PEG-2000 is documented, although it's believed to be rare. It can be determined by skin test or intradermal test. It would impact his ability to receive a number of medications, some of which are fairly commonly used to treat injuries that might occur in football. Edit: given AR's now-known history of being honest and transparent, who knows what he actually meant by "allergy?" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 19 minutes ago, cba fan said: he said he was immunized and now we know he meant because he took ivermectin that his new "best friend" (Rogan(lol) who took it and promoted it) Rodgers alluded recommended it. It has been widely reported he made some of the adds after being told by NFL he is in unvaxx category. most anit vaxxers cry no one should take vaccines because we don't know what is in them. I was being somewhat facetious on that. Rodgers never claimed that that i know of. yes he could be allergic but it is super rare as no latex, mercury, eggs, or gelatin, are in these. Since it is Aaron we’re talking about here, perhaps we will find out in a few month’s time that what he meant when he said “I have an allergy” to these ingredients, is that he’s mentally allergic and distressed about the idea of those ingredients being injected into his arm…is that how speaking your truth works Mr Rodgers? 🧐 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 I’d be interested in knowing how and where he gained access to monoclonal antibody treatment. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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QCity Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 19 minutes ago, K-9 said: I’d be interested in knowing how and where he gained access to monoclonal antibody treatment. It's starting to become available to the public in certain areas. When your net worth is $100M++ a lot of doors can be opened. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 I would like to avoid Aaron Rodgers appearing on my TV. The news just played a clip of him. Please... I hope he recovers without complication, but in the meantime can we just ignore him? He is an idiot and not trustworthy (imo), so I want to move on. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Also the allergy is only tied to 2 of the vaccines. His stated reason for not taking the 3rd vaccine (the Johnson & Johnson one) is because it was tied to blood clots. But based on data that is a poor excuse. https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/coronavirus-vaccine-blood-clots If you assume 50% of the 9 million doses went to men, that is an incidence rate of 0.00013333%, AKA 1.33 in a million chance for men. The chance of him having a severe covid case is much greater than that. Yeah, he has an excuse or explanation for everything. Interesting during the interview today he was asked specifically how his program boosts his immunity. He gave this long answer that said nothing to the actual question asked following up with something to the effect of: "I'm not going to disclose my personal information" That's a perfectly valid response in most situation like Josh Allens response. But for Rodgers he's no longer in a position where he can afford to use that excuse when his entire purpose of doing this interview was basically for damage control. Seemed he tried to still come across as he understands this much better than everyone else so his actions were responsible. Don't think that's going to fly much at this point. I'm guessing tomorrows headlines are for the most part going to still crucify him and probably as we speak Jimmy Fallon and all the later night show writers are busy with putting together some good Aaron Rodgers lines for use. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 he’s going off the rails on the crazy traaaiiiiinnnnn…. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He got vaccinated for real a few days later. Mason Prince. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 4 hours ago, HappyDays said: Taking medical advice from Joe Rogan and using an out of context Martin Luther King Jr quote. This is going well. The good news is Cole Beasley is no longer the center of the anti-vax NFL crowd. I think Aaron Rodgers should start taking advise on NFL football from me. I have just as much relevant experience + training as Joe Rogan does with medicine/covid, if not more! 😁 I’ve never had any high level coaching or training or anything like that but so what! Do you know how many YouTube videos I’ve watched on football? Tons! So obviously my opinion should carry as much weight as his NFL coaches who have spent countless hours training in their profession. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 49 minutes ago, K-9 said: I’d be interested in knowing how and where he gained access to monoclonal antibody treatment. I am interested in how he carefully researched it before putting it in his body, and what long term safety studies he reviewed. Oh wait... no I am not interested. Not in the least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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