GunnerBill Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: I don't believe a team has ever swept a division two years in a row. Could be another Bills record? Nope I think the closest was the Bears in the 80s who went 8-0, 7-1, 8-0 over three years in the 5 team NFC Central 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yea we definitely have a division advantage right now. Pre-season I was very much in the camp of "the Bills won't sweep it again they will drop 1 somewhere, probably 5-1" but the way those three teams are looking it would be a huge disappointment if we don't sweep. Our last game of the season is against the Jets. If the Bills have the division and home field advantage locked-up, they could drop that game. Then again, our back-ups might be able to take the Jets starters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 11 hours ago, Johnnycage46 said: Chargers could be a force for a while with that 74 M in cap next year and Herbert on rookie deal still. Mike Williams is a free agent after this year - there's $20M Linval Joseph is a free agent after this year - there $5-10M Chris Harris is a free agent after this year - there's $5-10M These cap figures are deceptive because if a good player is rolling off of a contract, they're counted as zero. However, just to have the same team you had this year, you need to pay MORE to get these players back. The Bills don't have a lot of cap space because they've done a good job of extending guys and not letting them hit free agency. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 2 hours ago, GreggTX said: Why are some people so anxious to get rid of one of the top slot receivers in the NFL? Don't you like winning? Or is this about his politics? I thought we wanted to keep good players. Maybe he's had a less productive season to date than last year, but so has Diggs. Surely you don't want to get rid of him too, do you? Because he's become a distraction and cast a negative light on the franchise. I respect his right to choose but not his childish, classless way of publicly dealing with it. Further expounded by getting on Bills fans for booing him. Like we should just look at him as a football player after he's gone out of his way to distract from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Rigotz said: Mike Williams is a free agent after this year - there's $20M Linval Joseph is a free agent after this year - there $5-10M Chris Harris is a free agent after this year - there's $5-10M These cap figures are deceptive because if a good player is rolling off of a contract, they're counted as zero. However, just to have the same team you had this year, you need to pay MORE to get these players back. The Bills don't have a lot of cap space because they've done a good job of extending guys and not letting them hit free agency. Doubt they bring Harris back. 33 year old slot corner on a defense that doesn't play that much nickel? I reckon they find a cheaper alternative or draft a mid round guy. Harris was elite in his prime. Less so now. Tevaughan Campbell is the corner I more see them bringing back. Young player still some upside and should come at a reasonable price. Similarly Joseph will be 34 next year doubt he is back. Defensive tackle is a position they need to totally remake the roster. It will cost money and picks but I doubt it is by bringing back the guys they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 The New York Giants are so poorly managed. They pay a lot of money to players that "were once good" or "supposed to be good but they aren't." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 6 hours ago, Mynamemike said: And somehow the saints will get under the cap with minimal moves. The cap has many ways it can be manipulated with bonuses. The Saints always have one or two cuts that free up some space and then they just work the bonuses around. The Bills did similar things this past off-season. They got a lot of cap space by converting salary to bonuses. 4 hours ago, JaCrispy said: If Beasley is gone after this year, I hope the bills have his replacement in mind...we will need to find more reliable pass catchers out of the backfield because Beasley serves as an extension of that position, and is a superb safety net for Josh... If Beasley is gone I hope Sanders is brought back and a high draft pick is poured into the position. I know Diggs is still there, Knox is a factor and Davis is young but they need to keep that position well stocked. Either way I don't really care about next season at the moment. Live in the now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Rigotz said: Mike Williams is a free agent after this year - there's $20M Linval Joseph is a free agent after this year - there $5-10M Chris Harris is a free agent after this year - there's $5-10M These cap figures are deceptive because if a good player is rolling off of a contract, they're counted as zero. However, just to have the same team you had this year, you need to pay MORE to get these players back. The Bills don't have a lot of cap space because they've done a good job of extending guys and not letting them hit free agency. Good point. I just looked at their cap and was thinking they already have good/very good players but if some of them are coming up on new contracts (with Herbert's looming in another year or two) that could hamper them a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: Good point. I just looked at their cap and was thinking they already have good/very good players but if some of them are coming up on new contracts (with Herbert's looming in another year or two) that could hamper them a bit. As we know with the Bills when you are good you have to pony up to keep your own players. The Chargers should still have enough cap space to retain their players and go after a piece or two. They will be a power player in the AFC in the next few years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 13 hours ago, Johnnycage46 said: Chargers could be a force for a while with that 74 M in cap next year and Herbert on rookie deal still. hopefully they extend him and his # goes up. When is WR Mike Williams a FA? 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Because $5.4m for a backup is a lot of money on a team starting to pay its stars. And he is a backup not a rotational guy. When Tremaine and Milano are healthy he plays a tiny % of snaps. yeah, the problem is when Milano is healthy. Klien is a fantastic backup. We almost have to think of Klien and Milano as one player. ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 7 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I suspect Beasley is gone after this year. He is one of the easier cuts on the roster IMO. AJ Klein is cut #1. I have Beasley as cut #2. Those two alone save you $11.3m. The way Sanders is playing it is possible they would rather extend him another year than keep Beas. IMO there is a good chance that at least one of the Klein, Beasley or Feliciano is gone next year. I'll wait until March of next year to see which I think it is. One thing i expect is that Beane does not go to FA players from other teams much at all. It will upset a lot of fans but he builds again from inside the team. 6 hours ago, Mynamemike said: And somehow the saints will get under the cap with minimal moves. And will finish probably no better than 8-9 (third in the division) and miss the playoffs. They don't have a QB next year and still have to pay $10M for the one's they had this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabden Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 4 hours ago, JaCrispy said: While I like Davis, if we move Sanders to the slot, I would prefer to have more speed on the outside...I like Davis as the #4, where we don’t have to rely on him to produce every week, and where is contributions can still be a nice little addition to the offense from time to time... I like Davis, a lot! He has been making some phenomenal catches on the sidelines and endzone. With more snaps and targets I see him as a valuable #2 receiver on the outside. For speed, we have McKenzie and there will be plenty of wr in the 2022 draft and in FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 14 hours ago, Johnnycage46 said: Chargers could be a force for a while with that 74 M in cap next year and Herbert on rookie deal still. They are in a similar spot the Bills were a few years ago but cap space disappears quickly once you resign/extend your key core players and Herbert will no doubt be in line for the next Allen/Mahomes type of contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 21 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: hopefully they extend him and his # goes up. When is WR Mike Williams a FA? yeah, the problem is when Milano is healthy. Klien is a fantastic backup. We almost have to think of Klien and Milano as one player. ha. Williams is a FA this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 7 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said: The Bills are built for this year and next. Things become dicey after that as far as signings and keepings. call it the Wilford Factor, although for the young ones who don’t know that is a whole thread on its own. True but we have a lot of good players still under rookie contract and other recently signed deals favorable to the Bills. Plus if we get to the SB this year or win it then it makes signing key veterans to $1 year deals easier since they will take less for a chance to win a SB. Either way the time is now for this franchise to truly exorcise demons of years past and win it all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: And will finish probably no better than 8-9 (third in the division) and miss the playoffs. They don't have a QB next year and still have to pay $10M for the one's they had this year. I have to confess to being a little surprised the Saints are above .500 after 5 games. I think there is a route to 9 or 10 wins for them this year which is just a testament to how good Sean Payton is as a Head Coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: They are in a similar spot the Bills were a few years ago but cap space disappears quickly once you resign/extend your key core players and Herbert will no doubt be in line for the next Allen/Mahomes type of contract. Exactly. Chargers will be a buyer in FA no doubt but it's not like they will be signing a large group of change makers. 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I have to confess to being a little surprised the Saints are above .500 after 5 games. I think there is a route to 9 or 10 wins for them this year which is just a testament to how good Sean Payton is as a Head Coach. So am I. They do have a fairly easy schedule and when it's all said and done they could dip below .500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 The Cole Beasley debate is so annoying here because half of y’all can’t separate your beliefs from football. He’s clearly not affecting team chemistry. Regarding his play… He’s one of the best pure slot WR’s in the league, but with Knox emerging as a legit TE1, and our offense developing the RB passing game, I’m not sure we need an elite slot WR… it’s nice to have, and will be on display in certain matchups, but not necessary. I’m fine keeping him, but my biggest worry for next year is outside WR2. Sanders is destroying people and I don’t know if Davis or Stevenson etc will be at that level (or close to it), if Sanders decides to ride off into the sunset. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: The Cole Beasley debate is so annoying here because half of y’all can’t separate your beliefs from football. He’s clearly not affecting team chemistry. Regarding his play… He’s one of the best pure slot WR’s in the league, but with Knox emerging as a legit TE1, and our offense developing the RB passing game, I’m not sure we need an elite slot WR… it’s nice to have, and will be on display in certain matchups, but not necessary. I’m fine keeping him, but my biggest worry for next year is outside WR2. Sanders is destroying people and I don’t know if Davis or Stevenson etc will be at that level (or close to it), if Sanders decides to ride off into the sunset. McDermott hated being asked about his last social media rant last week. Is he affecting chemistry? No I don't think so, but is he still a distraction at times? Yes. And McDermott hates distractions. Plus his production has dipped a bit and he is 33 by the time next year starts. His politics has nothing to do with it. Distraction, declining production, age. That is the unholy trinity of factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, SCBills said: The Cole Beasley debate is so annoying here because half of y’all can’t separate your beliefs from football. My belief that one of Klein, Beasley or Feliciano are cut/traded has nothing to do with any problems with any of them. My point is it has a good chance of becoming a reality due to the tight cap. My hope is Beane can keep all 3 of them AND sign the FAs he needs to AND replace the FAs that walk with equal or better talent. I'll know if I'm right or wrong next March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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