RyanC883 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: To be fair we were up 10-0 in our game haha so Clevelands soon to be 5 point lead doesn't matter much as we learned the hard way 🤣 good point. But at least CLE is scoring and has a balanced offense. Hey, who's that Wyatt Teller dude, didn't he play here? Gee, don't we need guards? Thanks Bean. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Oh, we unveiled “trick plays” a-plenty. But we chose to punt on some short 4th downs I thought we could have made, and we tried to finesse a couple plays that we should have arguably tried to out-physical. Then we tried to go for it when we could have taken points. The “still trying flea flickers and half back passes” is kind of what I mean. We were trying to finesse where “man whupping man” physicality may have been called for. I think that was more of a no confidence in the offense thing not an overconfidence thing lol picking up a yard is tough when you don't think you can run the ball and the defense was playing well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, ngbills said: Combo of Allen not at his best and Daboll in his try to be cute mindset. We could have just beat them with fundamental football early, but was out of sorts. we needed 7 on that initial kickoff, but cute Daboll came out for a show. It was downhill from there, with cute Daboll making reappearances at inopportune times including 4th downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngolddigger Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: I felt like we came out flat today and you “brought it”. Well, the defense brought it, at least. Still lots of questions and concern on the offensive side. Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: (despite our bitching about a couple of ticky-tack and missed calls). That's why I don't visit Steeler forums or watch the game in bars here. Reading the opposing teams fans blame everything on the refs is entertaining. Listening to other Steeler fans do it just makes me want to hit someone with a chair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I think that was more of a no confidence in the offense thing not an overconfidence thing lol picking up a yard is tough when you don't think you can run the ball and the defense was playing well I'm not sure we don't think we can't run the ball, or if Daboll just won't run the ball. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: Yes. I agree with this too. I get it, it’s a passing league, but we have to run occasionally and be better. Gadgets plays on 4 and 1 and mid field while clinging to a 4point lead. Yes, this^^^ play calling was very questionable at several points during the game, imo, Dabol’s play calling and offensive execution were both lacking, starters gotta play during preseason more than once, they were rusty and out of sync, and appeared to Be believing their own press clippings…, Go Bills!!! Edited September 12, 2021 by Don Otreply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, RyanC883 said: I'm giving Daboll a short leash after this game and others. He simply is incapable of having a balanced attack, which you need against high caliber Ds. I'm less worried about Josh given the fact the D line was in his face all day, and they only rushed 4. I'm more worried about our terrible OL. It’s more than obvious now, having an average at best oline is not going to cut it. We need to give Allen better or we are not going anywhere. We also need at least one impact player on D fense. It’s going to be disappointing if we keep going down this route… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 23 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I missed that play, what exactly happened? The rush came from up the middle, it looked like a parting of the Red Sea. Our blockers appeared to do their jobs and left side blocked left, right side blocked right. Problem was there was a Steeler who waited a second then came in right up the middle and blocked the punt, which was returned for a TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 50 minutes ago, SCBills said: Im sure we’d be losing our minds, no matter how we lost, but there’s some justifiable “it’s how we lost” in this thread. We drafted a 2nd round pass rusher who’s inactive, and re-signed a guy on the OL that many of us didn’t think was worth re-signing. Ok, coaches think that’s the move, fine… well, our OL was dominated all game, and Daboll looked like he got body snatched by Johnny 5-wide. Maybe we should’ve used that 2nd Round Pick on IOL, like many Bills fans were clamoring. We gave up a blocked punt on a team that has multiple special team captains. Defense, meh. Allen, meh. Coaching and the OL… TRASH Allen had a couple head scratchers last season. The first game against the Pats comes to mind. I'm not trashing the season over a bad game. The best teams in the league have sloppy games. This one could've easily been an ugly win if Daboll took his head out of his *** and Sanders not dropping a PERFECT pass. Unfortunately, it was the season opener. Best get the issues worked out early. I'm trying my best not to get upset over this as I have so many times in the past. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astb41 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Honestly this kind of loss feels like a good early season wake up call. Don’t get caught in the hype. Work. Trust the process. We have not arrived so don’t act like we have. Let’s put a good 3 weeks together and head into KC and Tenn with a revamped mindset. still sucks ass losing a game we should’ve won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Oh, we unveiled “trick plays” a-plenty. But we chose to punt on some short 4th downs I thought we could have made, and we tried to finesse a couple plays that we should have arguably tried to out-physical. Then we tried to go for it when we could have taken points. The “still trying flea flickers and half back passes” is kind of what I mean. We were trying to finesse where “man whupping man” physicality may have been called for. I agree, hated the flea flicker and half passes, but are we truly capable of being physical ? I used to be a Daboll critic, but is he just playing to our strengths ? I don’t know if I have any evidence this team is capable of what you said in the bolded text. It’s difficult to know if that’s a function of coaching not allowing that to happen, or players being incapable of that style play. I tend to believe we aren’t a very physical team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I think that was more of a no confidence in the offense thing not an overconfidence thing lol picking up a yard is tough when you don't think you can run the ball and the defense was playing well Then punt, or establish a gd running game… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: this might be a good point. Ben had some bizzarly off target passes to wide open guys, mostly RB Harris. That said, our OL and DL are albatrosses that Bean did nothing of any import with, and we will pay the price for that against good teams. Our offensive playcalling is also a disaster against good teams when you need a more balanced approach. Agree on the OL. Our defense played well today on the whole. Gave up under 300 I think? Blocked punt isn’t on them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: I'm not sure we don't think we can't run the ball, or if Daboll just won't run the ball. ?? He just want you got to let them get going. He will run the ball for 3 yards and say well we tried lol I’ve been watching the bills for 30 years and never saw nothing like it. So frustrating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, SirAndrew said: I agree, hated the flea flicker and half passes, but are we truly capable of being physical ? I used to be a Daboll critic, but is he just playing to our strengths ? I don’t know if I have any evidence this team is capable of what you said in the bolded text. It’s difficult to know if that’s a function of coaching not allowing that to happen, or players being incapable of that style play. I tend to believe we aren’t a very physical team. We had some very physical plays today which we won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popcornpam Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 We are “too vanilla”on Defense especially the first series second half. It’s almost like the head coach wants to shorten the game keeping the clock running by sending only four and a soft zone. McD did that last year too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: It’s more than obvious now, having an average at best oline is not going to cut it. We need to give Allen better or we are not going anywhere. We also need at least one impact player on D fense. It’s going to be disappointing if we keep going down this route… totally agree. You basically described what Championship teams have. We don't have that. Hopefully something happens and one of the rookies or AJ breaks out, but I'm not sure what's up with the OL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 30 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don’t understand what you mean by “sloppy hold” Haack didn't catch the ball cleanly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Have you ever met the guy I was replying too? No, I’ve never met anyone from this board, but I heard my uncle is on here. Don’t know his handle though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, Meatloaf63 said: Then punt, or establish a gd running game… I mean running the ball up the middle for a one yard gain on second down is just shooting yourself in the foot too so you have to call the plays that give your team the best chance to win and with our team against the steelers that results in a lot of passes. As a fan we can criticize everything after the fact our job is easy 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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