foreboding Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'll go further and say, at this point all signs point to Stevenson and Hodgins needing some time to develop (though it's early days and that could change). The right place for them to develop is the practice squad, and I think most people know that....but are concerned that if we don't put them on the roster they'll get poached off waivers. Well, they could. But I think the rosters around the league this year are full of promising guys who need development, and given the virtual lead-up to the draft I think this year more than many, teams will be inclined to stay with the guys they've seen in camp and not go fishing elsewhere. Although, I wonder if Bills passing game players are held in high esteem now? DabolI and staff sure seem to know how to coach them up. I suspect we will see alot of Hodgins and Kumerow in pre-season and if they play well. I would worry about getting them on the PS, especially Kumerow in light of Rodgers stance on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: If he can make Taiwan Jones expendable AND actually contribute on offense, he’s close to a lock. Totally agree - there are a few places where this is true. Can Kumerow displace Jones - allowing us to keep just 3 RBs rather than 4? Can McKenzie (McKittrick 😂) win both Kick-off and punt return duties? Which depth LBs with Special team abilities step up to allow Klein to get moved? There is potential for a slightly different roster makeup this year with certain guys filling new roles. I think this makes camp super interesting at certain back-up roles where we could see 7 WRs and 3 RBs rather than 6 and 4. With the expanded practice squad and veterans on the PS - I hope we get younger and use those spots on guys like Jones and maybe Addison/Butler as safety fall backs and keep more young guys with future potential. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'll go further and say, at this point all signs point to Stevenson and Hodgins needing some time to develop (though it's early days and that could change). The right place for them to develop is the practice squad, and I think most people know that....but are concerned that if we don't put them on the roster they'll get poached off waivers. Well, they could. But I think the rosters around the league this year are full of promising guys who need development, and given the virtual lead-up to the draft I think this year more than many, teams will be inclined to stay with the guys they've seen in camp and not go fishing elsewhere. Agreed. At least, I know that was my original concern is that either would get poached. But Kumerow has made it so that I’m willing to take that chance. The only thing giving me mild hesitation is that I was hoping Stevenson could step in and be that dynamic kick returner. Not sure how much he’s shown in that regard at camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: Agreed. At least, I know that was my original concern is that either would get poached. But Kumerow has made it so that I’m willing to take that chance. The only thing giving me mild hesitation is that I was hoping Stevenson could step in and be that dynamic kick returner. Not sure how much he’s shown in that regard at camp. I commented elsewhere that there hasn't been a lot of coverage of the kicking game, other than some comments after (I think) the first practice that McKenzie looked noticeably smoother and more confident than the other two. But someone else made the valid point that until pads go on, you really can't tel too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: I commented elsewhere that there hasn't been a lot of coverage of the kicking game, other than some comments after (I think) the first practice that McKenzie looked noticeably smoother and more confident than the other two. But someone else made the valid point that until pads go on, you really can't tel too much Gotcha. Just another quick point too, I know how fashionable it’s become to bash Rodgers lately, but if Kumerow really does make this team, it really does lend credibility to Rodgers’ complaints. If he can make it on this team, that is incredibly stacked at that position. So much so that they may leave two valued draft picks available for the taking I don’t see how people can look past that. The mvp of the league said this guy has the goods, he’s the 2nd best receiver on the team and they let him walk? If that doesn’t scream mismanagement what does? Fans on this message board get riled up over super fringe fliers getting waived, I couldn’t imagine if that situation played out on the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 28 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: Gotcha. Just another quick point too, I know how fashionable it’s become to bash Rodgers lately, but if Kumerow really does make this team, it really does lend credibility to Rodgers’ complaints. Never thought of that and it does seem that he turns heads. Great point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Yes, we know. So are TBN articles. A lot of other sites too. Your point? TBN is not a pay wall. It is a pay gate and there is way around it. PM me if you do not know how, I have explained a number of times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Rc2catch said: I’m getting a scary sense Kumerow is our new guy on here, Dukes time is almost over and it seems Jake may be taking his place. (I kid I kid) 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Oh, I "get it" now, you're talking about the role of Preseason Fan Favorite, not about actual chance to make the roster and stick around. Time to get to work starting some Christian Wade threads... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Quote “My position is a football player,” Kumerow said. “I like to be out there on any phase, whether it be offense or special teams. Whatever the team needs me to do. I enjoy playing special teams. Shoot, running down on kickoff is pretty fun…. especially when you make a tackle inside the 20, or even the guy next to you makes a tackle inside the 20. It just gets you fired up, ready to go.” I wonder if he could play defense on hands team for hail mary passes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 56 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'll go further and say, at this point all signs point to Stevenson and Hodgins needing some time to develop (though it's early days and that could change). The right place for them to develop is the practice squad, and I think most people know that....but are concerned that if we don't put them on the roster they'll get poached off waivers. Well, they could. But I think the rosters around the league this year are full of promising guys who need development, and given the virtual lead-up to the draft I think this year more than many, teams will be inclined to stay with the guys they've seen in camp and not go fishing elsewhere. I understand the concern in losing both guys, but I think the fans focus on them more than the rest of the league does. Hodgins is a late round pick from last year, not sure how many teams are really looking at him. Kind of the same deal with Stevenson-he was a late round pick for a reason as well. I think both have more value to the Bills than other teams. Think about it, are any of us thinking about late round picks from this year or last year from other teams and hope they get cut so we can pick them up? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 I’m all for trading him if Green Bay wants to give up a pick. I doubt he makes the team anyhow. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: I understand the concern in losing both guys, but I think the fans focus on them more than the rest of the league does. Hodgins is a late round pick from last year, not sure how many teams are really looking at him. Kind of the same deal with Stevenson-he was a late round pick for a reason as well. I think both have more value to the Bills than other teams. Think about it, are any of us thinking about late round picks from this year or last year from other teams and hope they get cut so we can pick them up? After 5 days of training camp? No. After the coaches watch tape of these guys in preseason games? Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Rc2catch said: I’m getting a scary sense Kumerow is our new guy on here, Dukes time is almost over and it seems Jake may be taking his place. (I kid I kid) There always has to be one... On a side note, I've been following all of the camps and Robert Foster is now that guy for the Dolphins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, transient said: Time to get to work starting some Christian Wade threads... I actually have been wondering about C Wade. It's been 🦗 about him. I was hoping the Bills would try him out in the Return game as I see that as a place his Rugby skills and speed might best position him for an impact, but apparently No Just now, jeremy2020 said: There always has to be one... On a side note, I've been following all of the camps and Robert Foster is now that guy for the Dolphins. Third team's the Charm? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: There always has to be one... On a side note, I've been following all of the camps and Robert Foster is now that guy for the Dolphins. Oh man.. I really thought Foster could play for someone. But….. if he couldn’t crack that packer receiver group or even Washington.. I’m happy Miami has someone to cheer for lol. Fuller and Parker and big Preston haven’t exactly been the poster boys for durability. Surely Tua is happy to have a speed threat to toss bombs to.. (I actually had such a big smile trying to type that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 26 minutes ago, foreboding said: Never thought of that and it does seem that he turns heads. Great point. The question is can he show up and show out more in the games? There are two sides to the Green Bay cutting him sitch. The GB FO side is maybe that Kumerow had looked very good at the end of the 2018 season, getting two starts and catching 3 of 3 targets and 3 of 4 targets. In 2019, when he made the roster, he was inconsistent when he got his chance to play. He made key receptions in some games. He also disappeared (didn't get open) or only caught half his targets in other games. He was 27. So one can see the GB FO looking at him in camp and saying "this guy looks good in preseason, but he looked good last year too then vanished, we'd rather keep a young guy we think has a higher ceiling" Of course, if you're smart, you want to talk to The Franchise and at least find out what he's seeing from under center when he looks down the field, too, and at least have him a bit in the loop on what you're thinking. But I can see (for example) GB wanting to see more who they had in Equanimeous St Brown who was IR'd in 2019 but returning in 2020 (I think the answer is now known as 'not much') I don't know enough about the Green Bay roster to know how they saw Special Teams. They did use Kumerow on ST in 2018 and 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Rc2catch said: I’m getting a scary sense Kumerow is our new guy on here, Dukes time is almost over and it seems Jake may be taking his place. (I kid I kid) Has anyone accounted for the whereabouts of Brandon Reilly? I'm not even ready to move on from him yet! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Just now, The Frankish Reich said: Has anyone accounted for the whereabouts of Brandon Reilly? I'm not even ready to move on from him yet! Last I heard he was supposed to be in New England burning us for 5+ years as the new Welker/Edelman white slot guy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 I remember a time the Bills and us fans were yearning and for a big, tall redzone threat. 🤷🏽♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 2 hours ago, foreboding said: You sure do! As a guy who pays for both of those, I'd disagree. Both are a bargain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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