DeSantis For President in 2024?

[Joe Ferguson forever]

6 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

"Lather, Rinse' Repeat. . . . . . . .the same false claim over and over.

 

It is NOT whitewashed.

 

That is the point that you cannot refute.

 

History about the horrors of slavery and the fight for Civil Rights continues to be taught, just as always

 

Just not through the lying prism of 1619 and CRT.

 

It is the recent 'educators who are trying to 'recount' their course.

 

What is their purpose ?

 

 

 

 

(ooh, name the book that has been whitewashed)

 

😆

 

 

 

I put up the list of banned subjects for this exact reason.  What about slave reparations makes it an off limits subject?  let's start there.

4 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

Getting rid of BLM topics is probably a good thing...what are they going to teach?  Rioting to the point of killing dozens, destroying billions in property and then embezzling the donations?  Yikes not a good look in the history books.  Reparations?  Who gets them and who pays them?  Do the nations who sold the slaves to the south pay up?  Do the soldiers families who fought for the North get paid?  Does that mean I get some? How are they teaching this stuff?  

 

You also can't cover every topic in these courses so some are going to be left out.

All fair questions that deserve discussion in schools.  Ignoring them doesn't make the questions disappear.  It amplifies them.  History is not about "a good look".  Ideally, it's about learning from mistakes and triumphs.

Edited February 3, 2023 by redtail hawk

[B-Man]

1 hour ago, redtail hawk said:

 What about slave reparations makes it an off limits subject?  let's start there.

 

 

 

HISTORY class is being discussed. When, Who, Where, and WHY,  let's keep it there.

 

But keep trying to shoot off into another tangent.

 

 

 

Edited February 3, 2023 by B-Man

[B-Man]

 

 

By the way, a quick shout out to Roundy.

 

I was reading a different article which lead to this one.  LOL

 

 

On 1/27/2023 at 9:09 AM, Roundybout said:

Why are these questions even necessary? And “optional” my ass. 

 

On 1/27/2023 at 7:47 PM, Roundybout said:

No sports league anywhere asks teenage girls questions like that. Come on. Why is it necessary?

 

 

 

Actually, it’s fairly standard for school systems to ask girls about their menstruation on the health forms student-athletes have to fill out.

For instance, here’s the New York City form.

 

 

 

Here’s San Francisco’s.

 

 

But, you know Desantis BAD !!

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/media-menstruation-meltdown-florida-does-normal-thing-liberal-journalists-lose-their-minds

 

https://www.psal.org/PDF/Miscellaneous/2021_PSAL_NewPPE_2021.pdf

 

https://www.cifsf.org/uploads/3/2/0/9/32099267/preparticipationphysical2021-22.pdf

 

.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

HISTORY class is being discussed. When, Who, Where, and WHY,  let's keep it there.

 

But keep trying to shoot off into another tangent.

 

 

 

Who are you to decide where to keep it?  Shouldn't that be up to the entire public to decide?  There are 5 W's regarding slave reparation.

Edited February 3, 2023 by redtail hawk

[B-Man]

 

National Association of Scholars. . . . . . . .phtttf, what do they know.

 

 

 

AP African American Studies Should Teach Black History, Not Activism

Peter Wood and David Randall

 

The College Board has just released a revised Advanced Placement (AP) African American Studies course (APAAS). The College Board substantially revised APAAS after Governor Ron DeSantis announced that Florida would reject the course as it appeared in the pilot version. Governor DeSantis’ administration determined that the proposed course violated the STOP W.O.K.E. Act. Noted education reformer Stanley Kurtz has provided extensive evidence to justify that determination.

 

Quote

Most of the readings in the latter section of APAAS reject colorblindness in some fashion or other. The course even assigns writings by Kimberlé Crenshaw and Patricia Hill Collins, by any definition pillars of critical race theory. True, these readings focus on Crenshaw’s and Collins’s writings on intersectionality. Yet both Collins and Crenshaw view intersectionality through the prism of CRT [Critical Race Theory].

 

 

 

Florida was correct to reject the proposed APAAS course just for the radicalization of these final readings in the course, and every state in the union should follow suit. Florida may determine that the revised course will pass muster. Certainly the revision has removed the worst components of the initial version course.

 

Quote

The revised APAAS curriculum has many fewer topics than the original. Nearly every now-omitted topic was filled with socialism, CRT, or some other radical perspective. Originally, an entire topic was devoted to Frantz Fanon’s glorification of violence — and its influence on black radicals in America. That topic is now gone.

Quote

Another topic one-sidedly excoriated American foreign policy in Haiti. Gone. The unit on black ***** studies has also been deleted. DeSantis won that showdown with Governor Pritzker. A topic on “Afrocentricity,” the scholarly legitimacy of which is very much in dispute, is gone. Also gone is a CRT-based unit calling colorblindness racist (in direct violation of Florida law). Units plugging reparations, prison abolition, intersectionality, the socialist platform of the Movement for Black Lives, and the revolutionary meditations of Marxist radical Robin D. G. Kelley, are likewise gone. That’s an awful lot of radicalism disappeared.

 

{snip}

 

The original APAAS stated that it wished to teach a course to “emphasize Black joy.” But American students should learn that mankind shares all its joys, however rooted in our individual experiences. When they learn about African American history and culture, they should read poems such as Robert Hayden’s Monet’s Waterlilies:

 

Today as the news from Selma and Saigon
poisons the air like fallout,
I come again to see
the serene, great picture that I love.

Here space and time exist in light
the eye like the eye of faith believes.
The seen, the known
dissolve in iridescence, become
illusive flesh of light
that was not, was, forever is.

O light beheld as through refracting tears.
Here is the aura of that world
each of us has lost.
Here is the shadow of its joy.

 

 

APAAS, original or revised, does not teach this faith, or this light, or this joy. But a proper course in African American History will.

 

https://www.nas.org/blogs/article/ap-african-american-studies-should-teach-black-history-not-activism

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

National Association of Scholars. . . . . . . .phtttf, what do they know.

 

 

 

AP African American Studies Should Teach Black History, Not Activism

Peter Wood and David Randall

 

The College Board has just released a revised Advanced Placement (AP) African American Studies course (APAAS). The College Board substantially revised APAAS after Governor Ron DeSantis announced that Florida would reject the course as it appeared in the pilot version. Governor DeSantis’ administration determined that the proposed course violated the STOP W.O.K.E. Act. Noted education reformer Stanley Kurtz has provided extensive evidence to justify that determination.

 

 

 

 

The better question is "who are they?".  The National Association of Scholars (NAS) is an American non-profit politically conservative advocacy organization, with a particular interest in education.[2][3] It opposes a perceived political correctness on college campuses and supports a return to mid-20th-century curricular and scholarship norms, and an increase in conservative representation in faculty.

 

Mid century furniture is often beautiful.  Mid century education, not so much.

Edited February 3, 2023 by redtail hawk

[LeviF]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

DeSantis Derangement Syndrome: The media get even more unhinged

By Karol Markowicz

 

 

https://nypost.com/2023/02/02/desantis-derangement-syndrome-the-media-get-even-more-unhinged/

 

 

[reddogblitz]

2 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

DeSantis Derangement Syndrome: The media get even more unhinged

By Karol Markowicz

 

 

https://nypost.com/2023/02/02/desantis-derangement-syndrome-the-media-get-even-more-unhinged/

 

 

 

They're doing it again cuz it worked.  President Trump was defeated.  If it ain't broke ...

[Joe Ferguson forever]

7 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

DeSantis Derangement Syndrome: The media get even more unhinged

By Karol Markowicz

 

 

https://nypost.com/2023/02/02/desantis-derangement-syndrome-the-media-get-even-more-unhinged/

 

 

what a piece of garbage:  

CNN reporter John Blake sent this note to DeSantis’ press secretary, Bryan Griffin, asking for comment after the gov blocked a woke high-school class: “I’ve talked to one of the nation’s leading scholars on fascism who, along with another scholar who is an authority on fascism, say that DeSantis’ decision echoes similar decisions made by fascist dictators to force what one historian calls ‘collective amnesia’ about the past.”

 

SUNY needs its own Ron DeSantis as a savior from woke insanity

I’m writing a piece calling the governor a fascist, care to comment? And how long have you been beating your wife?

 

Karol Markowicz would get a "C" in composition 101 and an "F" in intro logic at any respectable university (but an "A+" at Hillsdale).   How dare Blake ask for a comment regarding expert opinion?  She and her readers couldn't care less about education and critical thought.  Scholarship is woke and insane to them.  Doublespeak in real time.

Edited February 4, 2023 by redtail hawk

[BillStime]

When will Ron censor Tweets like this is the People’s Republik of FloriDUH?

 

 

[JDHillFan]

2 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

How dare Blake ask for a comment regarding expert opinion?

Who were the experts Blake was referring to and what made these people “experts”. Or do you think it’s good enough for Blake to say “I talked to some scholars”? Sounds like a real “journalist” to me. 

[Orlando Tim]

2 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

what a piece of garbage:  

CNN reporter John Blake sent this note to DeSantis’ press secretary, Bryan Griffin, asking for comment after the gov blocked a woke high-school class: “I’ve talked to one of the nation’s leading scholars on fascism who, along with another scholar who is an authority on fascism, say that DeSantis’ decision echoes similar decisions made by fascist dictators to force what one historian calls ‘collective amnesia’ about the past.”

 

SUNY needs its own Ron DeSantis as a savior from woke insanity

I’m writing a piece calling the governor a fascist, care to comment? And how long have you been beating your wife?

 

Karol Markowicz would get a "C" in composition 101 and an "F" in intro logic at any respectable university (but an "A+" at Hillsdale).   How dare Blake ask for a comment regarding expert opinion?  She and her readers couldn't care less about education and critical thought.  Scholarship is woke and insane to them.  Doublespeak in real time.

Why do you feel that his objections are inappropriate? At this point the AP is revising the parts he objects to so they don't have an issue with the comments.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

9 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Who were the experts Blake was referring to and what made these people “experts”. Or do you think it’s good enough for Blake to say “I talked to some scholars”? Sounds like a real “journalist” to me. 

Blake's article is yet to be published.  This was a letter to a Desantis spokesman.  Let's wait for the piece and see if proper attributions are made.

[B-Man]

5 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Who were the experts Blake was referring to and what made these people “experts”. Or do you think it’s good enough for Blake to say “I talked to some scholars”? Sounds like a real “journalist” to me. 

 

He specifically stated that he had spoken with "experts" on fascism

 

To tone deaf lemmings like hawkie that is (apparently) just asking for a comment/opinion.

 

To those of us with IQ's above 100, It is an obvious prejudiced question

And best made public for all Floridians to see

 

As Desantis's press secretary did.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

3 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

Why do you feel that his objections are inappropriate? At this point the AP is revising the parts he objects to so they don't have an issue with the comments.

Whose objections?  The writer cited is female.  It was published in the NY post, not AP. 

[B-Man]

 

DeSantis vindicated on critical race theory in schools

 

What Florida law proscribes additionally, however, is any curriculum designed to “indoctrinate” students into thinking any person “is inherently racist, sexist, or oppressive, whether consciously or unconsciously, solely by virtue of his or her race or sex” or that any person “by virtue of his or her race or sex” bears responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of the same race or sex.”

 

This is exactly what the Advanced Placement curriculum designed by the College Board did before DeSantis said he would block the use of the AP African American Studies course in Florida public high schools.

 

Democrats and their media allies frequently claim the teaching of critical race theory in schools is a myth. Critical race theory, they smugly insist, is a graduate-level topic not taught in elementary and secondary education. But after DeSantis fought back and said the AP course violated state law, the College Board agreed with him and backed down, removing writers and scholars from the curriculum who even the New York Times admits are “associated with critical race theory.”

 

Among many other objectionable items the College Board removed from its curriculum were extensive essays supporting financial reparations for slavery. The curriculum claimed it was just fostering “debate” on the subject, but a lack of interest in debate was revealed in the total lack of material in the course critical of the idea. This is “textbook” indoctrination and a clear violation of Florida’s law.

 

The College Board claims it had already removed the critical race theory elements before DeSantis’s criticism. But it’s clear the changes were a response to apt political pressure.

 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/desantis-vindicated-on-critical-race-theory-in-schools/ar-AA173N8i?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=7674d817d1bc425dc7811e636c3ac016

Edited February 4, 2023 by B-Man

[JDHillFan]

5 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

Blake's article is yet to be published.  This was a letter to a Desantis spokesman.  Let's wait for the piece and see if proper attributions are made.

So to you it’s ok for Blake to ask for comment using “I spoke to a fascism scholar” rather than “I spoke to John Smith, a scholar from the local community college”. Care to explain why you think that’s ok when the “journalist” involved has obviously already written the story of the fascist in charge of Florida? 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

20 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

So to you it’s ok for Blake to ask for comment using “I spoke to a fascism scholar” rather than “I spoke to John Smith, a scholar from the local community college”. Care to explain why you think that’s ok when the “journalist” involved has obviously already written the story of the fascist in charge of Florida? 

Desantis' spokesman could have asked for the names if he desired.  He didn't.  I don't think he would have received an honest answer regardless of whether Blake named his experts.  Blake has a right, as a journalist, to ask a Governers spokesman for comment.  He has the right to ignore it.  That's what happened.  No big deal.

Edited February 4, 2023 by redtail hawk

[JDHillFan]

CLAIM: Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is requiring all female student-athletes in the state to provide detailed information about their periods in order to compete in organized sports. 

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. 
 

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-desantis-florida-sports-female-athletes-160560972802

 

Period pearl-clutchers hardest hit. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

[B-Man]

 

 

THIS IS THE WAY: 

 

DeSantis Admin Revokes Liquor License of Orlando Venue That Hosted Sexual Drag Show for Children.

 

The complaint obtained by Florida Voice News alleged that the foundation advertised the show to all ages as holiday-themed without specifying its “sexually explicit nature.” The DeSantis administration warned the venue prior to the show that it would be expected to ensure children would be barred from entry, writing in a letter that “sexually explicit drag show performances constitute public nuisances, lewd activity, and disorderly conduct when minors are in attendance.” If the company refused to comply, the letter said, it could be subject to penalties up to and including license revocation.

 

The foundation admitted children in defiance of DeSantis, posting only a disclaimer at the front door stating that “while we are not restricting access to anyone under 18 please be advised some may think the context is not appropriate for under 18,” the letter said. Some children who participated in the event appeared to be less than six years old, according to the letter.

 

Performers allegedly wore sexually suggestive clothing and prosthetic female breasts and genitalia, which were exposed to the audience in addition to their buttocks. Other disturbing scenes, the letter alleged, included performers simulating *****, childbirth, and abortion.

 

The audience was also subject to sexualized parodies of popular children’s Christmas songs. For example, an adaptation of “All I want for Christmas was my two front teeth” was presented with an allusion to oral ***** in the line “I’ll sit on his lap, he can put his milk and cookies all between my gap,” the letter explained.

 

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/desantis-admin-revokes-liquor-license-of-orlando-venue-that-hosted-sexual-drag-show-for-children/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=breaking&utm_campaign=newstrack&utm_term=30452158

 

 

I’d add the usual “Much more like this, please” tagline, but I think that goes without saying, as DeSantis makes his case as a culture warrior par excellence in the run-up to the 2024 election cycle.

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Nonsense from silly, frivolous people.

 

 

Publisher reports that Gov. Ron DeSantis stands accused of ‘declaring war on black people’

 

 

Javier Manjarres is a political consultant and also the publisher of The Floridian, and he’s published a piece about Gov. Ron DeSantis “declaring war on blacks in Florida.” If he’s talking about that Advanced Placement African American Studies course, note that the College Board has heeded a number of criticisms that Florida’s board of education had with the class, such as removing required teachings on Black Lives Matter and the case for reparations from the curriculum.

 

Who’s accusing him? Let’s find out:

 

State Senator Shevrin Jones called Gov. DeSantis’s recent controversial banning of AP African-American studies at colleges and universities nothing more than “the promotion of Jim Crow 3.0 by ppl who don’t know & don’t care about what’s happening in the Black communities, but desire to referee how our history is taught.”

…

Rep. [Michelle] Rayner-Goolsby also repeated the current narrative that Republicans, namely DeSantis, have “declared war on Black people” and are trying erase black history by trying to “erase Black LGBTQ history.”

…

“Higher education though, we believe in Florida that it’s about academic excellence and the pursuit of truth. We don’t believe higher education should be for social justice or to impose an ideology on the students,” said DeSantis.

 

“We have guidelines and standards in Florida. We want education, not indoctrination. If you fall on the side of indoctrination, we’re gonna decline. If it’s education, then we will do.” DeSantis continued saying, “Who would say that an important part of black history is ***** theory? That is somebody pushing an agenda on our kids.”

 

So the same state legislators who had fits over the so-called “Don’t Say Gay” bill think DeSantis is declaring war on black people. And note that we’re already up to Jim Crow 3.0, with Georgia’s “voter suppression laws” being called Jim Crow 2.0 by President Joe Biden.

 

 

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/02/04/publisher-reports-that-gov-ron-desantis-stands-accused-of-declaring-war-on-black-people/

 

 

 

It is going to flop just like the “Don’t Say Gay” lie. Check the polls … check with Floridians … people like what DeSantis is doing.

 

 

[Doc]

Blacks are very homophobic.  Not sure what LGBTQ+ has to do with AP African-American studies.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

4 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

THIS IS THE WAY: 

 

DeSantis Admin Revokes Liquor License of Orlando Venue That Hosted Sexual Drag Show for Children.

 

The complaint obtained by Florida Voice News alleged that the foundation advertised the show to all ages as holiday-themed without specifying its “sexually explicit nature.” The DeSantis administration warned the venue prior to the show that it would be expected to ensure children would be barred from entry, writing in a letter that “sexually explicit drag show performances constitute public nuisances, lewd activity, and disorderly conduct when minors are in attendance.” If the company refused to comply, the letter said, it could be subject to penalties up to and including license revocation.

 

The foundation admitted children in defiance of DeSantis, posting only a disclaimer at the front door stating that “while we are not restricting access to anyone under 18 please be advised some may think the context is not appropriate for under 18,” the letter said. Some children who participated in the event appeared to be less than six years old, according to the letter.

 

Performers allegedly wore sexually suggestive clothing and prosthetic female breasts and genitalia, which were exposed to the audience in addition to their buttocks. Other disturbing scenes, the letter alleged, included performers simulating *****, childbirth, and abortion.

 

The audience was also subject to sexualized parodies of popular children’s Christmas songs. For example, an adaptation of “All I want for Christmas was my two front teeth” was presented with an allusion to oral ***** in the line “I’ll sit on his lap, he can put his milk and cookies all between my gap,” the letter explained.

 

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/desantis-admin-revokes-liquor-license-of-orlando-venue-that-hosted-sexual-drag-show-for-children/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=breaking&utm_campaign=newstrack&utm_term=30452158

 

 

I’d add the usual “Much more like this, please” tagline, but I think that goes without saying, as DeSantis makes his case as a culture warrior par excellence in the run-up to the 2024 election cycle.

 

So I discussed this with my wife at dinner tonight and she set me straight.  This was f'in stupid on the part of the Orlando Philharmonic.  She questioned the benefit of fund raisers promoting drag shows saying it was a cult even within the LGBT community and that this was provocation for the sake of it at the expense of acceptance of alternate sexual lifestyles.  I think she's right.  I hate cults.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can take man out of the Lincoln Project, but you can't take the Lincoln Project out of the man.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

32 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can take man out of the Lincoln Project, but you can't take the Lincoln Project out of the man.

No. he's giving an option to Florida residents who want to read great works of banned literature like "A farewell to Arms" or "Brave New World".  Provocative ideas in this sense are good and intellectually stimulating promoting creative and potentially profound ideas.  I hope no one thinks we can't do better than we are doing now.

Edited February 5, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Gene Frenkle]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

Blacks are very homophobic.  Not sure what LGBTQ+ has to do with AP African-American studies.

 

Wow, nice quote!

[Gene Frenkle]

Did I hear DeSantis wants the State to document menstrual cycles now? *****jng seriously?

 

"Anything that offends me should be illegal!" And you call others snowflakes!

 

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-desantis-florida-sports-female-athletes-160560972802

[B-Man]

Just now, Gene Frenkle said:

Did I hear DeSantis wants the State to document menstrual cycles now? *****jng seriously?

 

"Anything that offends me should be illegal!" And you call others snowflakes!

 

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-desantis-florida-sports-female-athletes-160560972802

 

 

Oh for the love of God Gene,

 

You MUST be trolling or stupid.

 

Your pick.

 

It been disproved twice already.

 

 

Try and keep up.

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

16 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said:

Did I hear DeSantis wants the State to document menstrual cycles now? *****jng seriously?

 

"Anything that offends me should be illegal!" And you call others snowflakes!

 

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-desantis-florida-sports-female-athletes-160560972802

I just can't understand why so many established institutions hate women.  i suspect it's the fear, that for some, they are superior and why shouldn't they be.  They're a little over half the population.  Of course there will be a significant percentage that are brilliant and capable and a similar percentage that will be low on the bell curve.  Same for XY chromosome humans.  Without a culture that represses them, they will have much more power and influence. Also without them, we'd all be incredibly frustrated or homosexual.  So maybe that's what Desantis wants.  It's the frustrated and dispossessed that he most appeals to. 

Edited February 5, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Gene Frenkle]

3 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Oh for the love of God Gene,

 

You MUST be trolling or stupid.

 

Your pick.

 

It been disproved twice already.

 

 

Try and keep up.

 

 

😁

[JDHillFan]

7 hours ago, Gene Frenkle said:

Did I hear DeSantis wants the State to document menstrual cycles now? *****jng seriously?

 

"Anything that offends me should be illegal!" And you call others snowflakes!

 

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-desantis-florida-sports-female-athletes-160560972802

It seems like you believe you have a sick burn here and by virtue of the thumbs up redtail feels the same. If either of you two geniuses read all the way to the second paragraph you would see that the story has been rated FALSE. What you have achieved here is synonymous with an own goal. Look it up. Smooth work folks. 
 

smh/lmao/idiots/butTrump

[Doc Brown]

7 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

I just can't understand why so many established institutions hate women.  i suspect it's the fear, that for some, they are superior and why shouldn't they be.  They're a little over half the population.  Of course there will be a significant percentage that are brilliant and capable and a similar percentage that will be low on the bell curve.  Same for XY chromosome humans.  Without a culture that represses them, they will have much more power and influence. Also without them, we'd all be incredibly frustrated or homosexual.  So maybe that's what Desantis wants.  It's the frustrated and dispossessed that he most appeals to. 

Those sandwiches aren't going to make themselves.  I kid but Desantis has nothing to do with this.

[LeviF]

9 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Those sandwiches aren't going to make themselves.  I kid but Desantis has nothing to do with this.

In fact, being Italian, DeSantis is far more likely to have the creepy mommy worship thing going on than misogyny. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 hours ago, JDHillFan said:

It seems like you believe you have a sick burn here and by virtue of the thumbs up redtail feels the same. If either of you two geniuses read all the way to the second paragraph you would see that the story has been rated FALSE. What you have achieved here is synonymous with an own goal. Look it up. Smooth work folks. 
 

smh/lmao/idiots/butTrump

yeah, wasn't in a studying mood last night after some nice wine with dinner.  it happens.

[Orlando Tim]

11 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

So I discussed this with my wife at dinner tonight and she set me straight.  This was f'in stupid on the part of the Orlando Philharmonic.  She questioned the benefit of fund raisers promoting drag shows saying it was a cult even within the LGBT community and that this was provocation for the sake of it at the expense of acceptance of alternate sexual lifestyles.  I think she's right.  I hate cults.

I will state your wife is correct and go a little further, since doing drag shows in Florida has been acceptable since I have moved here in 2001. The issue is when you start promoting sexual ideals to children. If you want to promote sexual content to children then you are a bad person.

9 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

I just can't understand why so many established institutions hate women.  i suspect it's the fear, that for some, they are superior and why shouldn't they be.  They're a little over half the population.  Of course there will be a significant percentage that are brilliant and capable and a similar percentage that will be low on the bell curve.  Same for XY chromosome humans.  Without a culture that represses them, they will have much more power and influence. Also without them, we'd all be incredibly frustrated or homosexual.  So maybe that's what Desantis wants.  It's the frustrated and dispossessed that he most appeals to. 

This is definitely some grade A projection. Women are not hated in FL, except in the deep blue areas. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

28 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

I will state your wife is correct and go a little further, since doing drag shows in Florida has been acceptable since I have moved here in 2001. The issue is when you start promoting sexual ideals to children. If you want to promote sexual content to children then you are a bad person.

This is definitely some grade A projection. Women are not hated in FL, except in the deep blue areas. 

No.  Women are paid less, on average for the same work, worldwide.  Still greatly under represented in seats of govt power and boardrooms worldwide and in the US.  Still sold into marriage or slavery.  Still required to wear veils and covers in many parts of the world.   Still banned from the clergy and magisterium of the Catholic church.  The list is very long.  Desantis does his little part by banning black feminist literature which was in the list I posted earlier.  Misogyny is news to you?   It's an actual conspiracy.  Not QAnon bs.

Edited February 5, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Doc]

11 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

I just can't understand why so many established institutions hate women.  i suspect it's the fear, that for some, they are superior and why shouldn't they be.  They're a little over half the population.  Of course there will be a significant percentage that are brilliant and capable and a similar percentage that will be low on the bell curve.  Same for XY chromosome humans.  Without a culture that represses them, they will have much more power and influence. Also without them, we'd all be incredibly frustrated or homosexual.  So maybe that's what Desantis wants.  It's the frustrated and dispossessed that he most appeals to. 

 

Can you define a "woman"?

[JaCrispy]

13 hours ago, Doc said:

Blacks are very homophobic.  Not sure what LGBTQ+ has to do with AP African-American studies.

They are trying to naturalize LGBT in the black community, to create a wedge between black people and white conservatives, whom blacks tend to agree with on several social issues…

 

As BillStime would say- It’s all politics…😉

11 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

I just can't understand why so many established institutions hate women.  i suspect it's the fear, that for some, they are superior and why shouldn't they be.  They're a little over half the population.  Of course there will be a significant percentage that are brilliant and capable and a similar percentage that will be low on the bell curve.  Same for XY chromosome humans.  Without a culture that represses them, they will have much more power and influence. Also without them, we'd all be incredibly frustrated or homosexual.  So maybe that's what Desantis wants.  It's the frustrated and dispossessed that he most appeals to. 

Hey, speak for yourself about being gay…😉