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Cole Beasley announces he will not be following Covid protocols, willing to retire


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1 minute ago, SDS said:


but his family is in medicine. 🙄


Seems I hit a nerve... I’m pretty sure if I met half of you vaccination lecturers in person, one of us would look like we are doing our part to do what we can to not drain the healthcare system... and the other would have a “I got vaccinated” sticker. 

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1 minute ago, Southern_Bills said:

 

I shouldn't, but I will. 

 

So a vaccination that has proven to be ineffective (people still getting the virus after vaccination) and still only approved for emergency use by the FDA is so great you are an idiot if you don't take it?

 

The vaccine is not the right choice for everyone, it is his choice. It is also the NFLs choice not to let him play. He is obviously prepared for the consequences so what's the big deal?

You are pulling statistics. If you want statistics, the vaccines that the FDA has approved our proving to be over 85% effective. There are cases where people have been shown to be positive after receiving the vaccine, but have not had any ill affects. Just because you have a vaccine does not mean you are not a carrier. It just means that your bodies immune system has been strengthened against the virus.

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4 minutes ago, SCBills said:


The assertion was that we’re grifters on the healthcare system for not getting vaccinated against COVID.  
 

That’s such a ridiculous assertion.  Especially when so many of us who aren’t, are young and take care of ourselves. i.e. professional athletes. 

And yet, the people screaming the loudest about "getting back to normal" are the ones not willing to take the simplest step to get us there.

 

You are the problem.

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1 minute ago, Southern_Bills said:

 

I shouldn't, but I will. 

 

So a vaccination that has proven to be ineffective (people still getting the virus after vaccination) and still only approved for emergency use by the FDA is so great you are an idiot if you don't take it?

 

The vaccine is not the right choice for everyone, it is his choice. It is also the NFLs choice not to let him play. He is obviously prepared for the consequences so what's the big deal?

uhhhh what. ineffective? no way bro. by any metric. you dont know what emergency use FDA approval means ( you assume its bad). and then also people may "get" the virus but they arent dying or getting seriously ill. also the trials and current data show its not 100% but pretty darn close. 

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4 minutes ago, Fred Slacks said:

Someone else misspoke by saying the majority of Americans are vaccinated. Maybe the majority of players are. But Americans aren’t getting vaccinated.


This is incorrect, unless you are including people who aren’t eligible to get vaccinated.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Southern_Bills said:

 

I shouldn't, but I will. 

 

So a vaccination that has proven to be ineffective (people still getting the virus after vaccination) and still only approved for emergency use by the FDA is so great you are an idiot if you don't take it?

 

The vaccine is not the right choice for everyone, it is his choice. It is also the NFLs choice not to let him play. He is obviously prepared for the consequences so what's the big deal?


no vaccine is 100% effective. And if he (or anyone) has legitimate reasons for getting a vaccine being “not the right choice for them” I’d love to hear them. Because many of the reasons people cite for not getting it are based in pure, malevolent fantasy.

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Just now, MiltonWaddams said:

You are pulling statistics. If you want statistics, the vaccines that the FDA has approved our proving to be over 85% effective. There are cases where people have been shown to be positive after receiving the vaccine, but have not had any ill affects. Just because you have a vaccine does not mean you are not a carrier. It just means that your bodies immune system has been strengthened against the virus.

 

Did not state stats, simply people get it after being vaccinated. 99% survival rate and a boatload of unknown longterm effects potentially. 

 

Yeah I can see why people are willing to play the odds.

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1 minute ago, balln said:

you dont know what emergency use FDA approval means ( you assume its bad). and then also people may "get" the virus but they arent dying or getting seriously ill. also the trials and current data show its not 100% but pretty darn close. 


do you know the prerequisites for consideration for emergency use approval?

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15 minutes ago, SDS said:


I’ve been reading and keeping my comments to myself. But if I was to say something this was going to be my comment.
 

Quite frankly, the people who refuse to get vaccinated are simply grifters. They grift on the doctors and nurses and scientists and immunologists and mathematicians and all the vaccinated people in the general public who got out of the wagon and are pulling us out of this mess. They don’t care if they get sick and get hospitalized because somebody else will be there to take care of them, the caregivers who are required to be vaccinated, so they can perform the simple act of breathing.

 

Somewhere Jenny McCarthy is smiling. 

What if they already have had covid?  Their acquired immunity is every bit as potent as what they would get from the vaccines.

 

And most people in Beasley's age group, under 35 won't get sick from covid.  I think that number is over 98%.

 

The solution is simple.  Test Beasley on a regular basis.  If he doesn't catch the covid what's the issue?

 

I'm over 60 so I chose to get the covid vaccine.  When I turn 65 I'll get the shingles vaccine but right now the risk/benefit ratio for shingles in the under 65 crowd says don't get the vaccine yet.

 

It's a personal choice.  Every adult has the option to protect themselves by getting vaccinated.  What Beasley does or doesn't do won't impact those that get the vaccine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Southern_Bills said:

 

Did not state stats, simply people get it after being vaccinated. 99% survival rate and a boatload of unknown longterm effects potentially. 

 

Yeah I can see why people are willing to play the odds.

If there was a lottery where 99.9999999999% of the people playing won the lottery and that missing decimal point got sick for a period, how many people would play that lottery?

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2 minutes ago, balln said:

uhhhh what. ineffective? no way bro. by any metric. you dont know what emergency use FDA approval means ( you assume its bad). and then also people may "get" the virus but they arent dying or getting seriously ill. also the trials and current data show its not 100% but pretty darn close. 

 

So you are ok with unknown side effects and potential long term damage it may or may not do?

 

Good for you, I'm not and I won't fault anyone else who isnt.

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1 minute ago, Southern_Bills said:

 

Did not state stats, simply people get it after being vaccinated. 99% survival rate and a boatload of unknown longterm effects potentially. 

 

Yeah I can see why people are willing to play the odds.

ppl the vaccine is a protein. its not some ortho kill weed killer. the flu vaccine does not cause you to get parkinsons or your arms to violently fall off 40 years later.....

 

you havent seen a significant number of people that have caught covid and then "survived"... have long term and chronic problems following it covid. basically like having lupus.

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Just now, SCBills said:


We’re completely back to normal down south.  Don’t blame me for your local government. 

You're obviously not following the current health stats. The Southern states are, indeed, the ones experiencing spikes, especially in regards to the latest delta variant.

 

Lost in this discussion also is the fact that as much as 10% of people who get Covid will experience long-term health effects, including lung damage-- and there is no correlation in these cases to pre-existing health. Cole beasley-- or the person he spreads the variant to-- could easily acquire these health issues, regardless of how healthy their lifestyle is.

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7 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

huh? .....78% of hospitalized Covid patients were overweight/obese. You don't see that as a contributing factor why someone who is healthy . young and in great shape might think twice about getting a vaccine that has not been been fully authorized yet, and is very likely a reason why young males are experiencing  myocarditis  at enhanced rates?

 

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/78-of-covid-19-patients-hospitalized-in-the-us-overweight-or-obese-cdc-finds.html


But the infection itself is the acute problem was my point. Underlying conditions like obesity can complicate all sorts or diseases yes.

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1 minute ago, MiltonWaddams said:

If there was a lottery where 99.9999999999% of the people playing won the lottery and that missing decimal point got sick for a period, how many people would play that lottery?

 

You got that backwards, 99% survival rate. 1 % death, And you are willing to take an experimental drug to protect you from a 1% chance and your not in a high risk category?

 

You gamble more than me.

 

2 minutes ago, balln said:

ppl the vaccine is a protein. its not some ortho kill weed killer. the flu vaccine does not cause you to get parkinsons or your arms to violently fall off 40 years later.....

 

you havent seen a significant number of people that have caught covid and then "survived"... have long term and chronic problems following it covid. basically like having lupus.

 

It's only been here for 6 months how do you know what happens in 3 years?

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Just now, Rocky Landing said:

You're obviously not following the current health stats. The Southern states are, indeed, the ones experiencing spikes, especially in regards to the latest delta variant.

 

Lost in this discussion also is the fact that as much as 10% of people who get Covid will experience long-term health effects, including lung damage-- and there is no correlation in these cases to pre-existing health. Cole beasley-- or the person he spreads the variant to-- could easily acquire these health issues, regardless of how healthy their lifestyle is.


Oh.. the current health stats, and variants... oh my.  I’m in Atlanta.  We’ve heard, literally, for the past year about the “impending doom” from people who don’t live here. 
 

Yet here we are... pretty much wide open.  And people have just lived their lives since last Fall.  
 

 

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1 minute ago, Southern_Bills said:

 

You got that backwards, 99% survival rate. 1 % death, And you are willing to take an experimental drug to protect you from a 1% chance and your not in a high risk category?

 

You gamble more than me.

 

If you have such a minimal level of education on a topic, you really shouldn't be cluttering up the thread with meaningless comments.

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15 minutes ago, SCBills said:


 

Just go back to normal.  If you want to be vaxxed, do it.  If not, don’t.  What the literal **** is the problem?

 

 

 

 

 

The literal ***** problem is that there wasn't going to be a normal in 2021......and maybe much longer......without people getting vaccinated.

 

There are worse things than Beasley retiring and the Bills getting their money back.    This year is probably it for him in Buffalo anyway.    

 

 

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