ChiGoose Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 29 minutes ago, Doc said: Again the same can be said for any talking head on the alphabet networks. You do understand that this is a terrible and unconvincing argument, right? Just straight whatsboutism to deflect from the fact that Tucker has given sworn testimony that he regularly deceives his audience. Even if we had sworn testimony from people at other news orgs that they were knowingly lying, it still would be a dumb argument. ”I want to be lied to and that’s totally fine because other people are lied to” is just a really poor standard to set for oneself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 minute ago, ChiGoose said: You do understand that this is a terrible and unconvincing argument, right? Just straight whatsboutism to deflect from the fact that Tucker has given sworn testimony that he regularly deceives his audience. Even if we had sworn testimony from people at other news orgs that they were knowingly lying, it still would be a dumb argument. ”I want to be lied to and that’s totally fine because other people are lied to” is just a really poor standard to set for oneself. Cnn got sued for defamation, sooo anything for ratings, but cnn still claims to be legitimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Cnn got sued for defamation, sooo anything for ratings, but cnn still claims to be legitimate. CNN sucks and is one of the most destructive forces in this country. That has absolutely zero relevance to the fact that most of the people on this board seem to still love a guy who has told them he’s lying to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Blitz Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 All Democrats are Fascist Totalitarians 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: All Democrats are Fascist Totalitarians Musk must be trying to grow market share in China and Russia. It's not going so well here. Great voiceover!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: Musk must be trying to grow market share in China and Russia. It's not going so well here. Great voiceover!!! How’s that justify Schumer? Democrats duck dodge obfuscate and deflect. Horrible horrible people. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 54 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: You do understand that this is a terrible and unconvincing argument, right? Just straight whatsboutism to deflect from the fact that Tucker has given sworn testimony that he regularly deceives his audience. Even if we had sworn testimony from people at other news orgs that they were knowingly lying, it still would be a dumb argument. ”I want to be lied to and that’s totally fine because other people are lied to” is just a really poor standard to set for oneself. 47 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: CNN sucks and is one of the most destructive forces in this country. That has absolutely zero relevance to the fact that most of the people on this board seem to still love a guy who has told them he’s lying to them. Like I said before, I don't watch TC. Just saying they're all employing these types of people and people on the left love their Rachel Maddows and (formerly) Chris Cuomos. 36 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: Musk must be trying to grow market share in China and Russia. It's not going so well here. Great voiceover!!! Huh? It's going fine here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, Doc said: Like I said before, I don't watch TC. Just saying they're all employing these types of people and people on the left love their Rachel Maddows and (formerly) Chris Cuomos. I would argue that there is a difference between typical news hacks who get things wrong and someone intentionally deceiving their audience and treating them like dupes. But that’s just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: I would argue that there is a difference between typical news hacks who get things wrong and someone intentionally deceiving their audience and treating them like dupes. But that’s just me. You say tom-ay-to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 54 minutes ago, Doc said: You say tom-ay-to... So you think there’s no difference between someone believing something and being wrong versus someone knowing something is false and promoting it anyway? Because I think there’s a world of difference between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) @ChiGoose throwing in with @redtail hawk on lies and lunacy? Shocking! Hey chi....what's that you said months ago that if we obtained evidence of wrong doing by Capitol police then they should be investigated and charged? How about nine capitol police officers letting an "insurrectionist" waltz through the halls of the Capitol and ultimately escorting him right inside the senate chamber? Wrong doing or nah? Edited March 9, 2023 by BillsFanNC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 42 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: @ChiGoose throwing in with @redtail hawk on lies and lunacy? Shocking! Hey chi....what's that you said months ago that if we obtained evidence of wrong doing by Capitol police then they should be investigated and charged? How about nine capitol police officers letting an "insurrectionist" waltz through the halls of the Capitol and ultimately escorting him right inside the senate chamber? Wrong doing or nah? They’ll have zero comment. Not only did these people call this mass trespassing event a coup - they wanted ALL Trump voters to labeled as COMPLICIT in it. Oh and “election deniers.” Lol lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 2 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: @ChiGoose throwing in with @redtail hawk on lies and lunacy? Shocking! Hey chi....what's that you said months ago that if we obtained evidence of wrong doing by Capitol police then they should be investigated and charged? How about nine capitol police officers letting an "insurrectionist" waltz through the halls of the Capitol and ultimately escorting him right inside the senate chamber? Wrong doing or nah? As anyone who has been actually following the events instead of living in the fever swamps knows, there were instances in which the Capitol Police declined to use force because they were outnumbered and/or it would have made a bad situation worse. However, if officers were actively assisting the rioters, then yeah, they should be punished for that. There was at least one Capitol police officer charged due to their actions on that day. 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: They’ll have zero comment. Not only did these people call this mass trespassing event a coup - they wanted ALL Trump voters to labeled as COMPLICIT in it. Oh and “election deniers.” Lol lol. If you expect someone to respond to a post on a message board within one hour on a workday, I think that says more about you than it does about them. Maybe go touch some grass for a bit. Not all Trump supporters are bad, nor are they all complicit in what happened on Jan 6. Some of the Jan 6 people were just trespassing, some got caught up in the moment and acted destructively and violently, while a small minority went there with the intent to disrupt Congress violently if needed. That’s why you see various charges and sentences being handed out to them. It’s not a broad brush where everyone was in the same boat. . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 4 hours ago, ChiGoose said: So you think there’s no difference between someone believing something and being wrong versus someone knowing something is false and promoting it anyway? Because I think there’s a world of difference between the two. Wrong is wrong. Doesn't matter if it's a lie that being pushed or believing something so strongly that you don't care to find out/know the truth. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, Doc said: Wrong is wrong. Doesn't matter if it's a lie that being pushed or believing something so strongly that you don't care to find out/know the truth. Same guy On 2/13/2022 at 9:56 AM, Doc said: This is what will end up being worse than Watergate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Doc said: Wrong is wrong. Doesn't matter if it's a lie that being pushed or believing something so strongly that you don't care to find out/know the truth. There is absolutely a difference between being wrong and lying. Being wrong is fine. Everybody is wrong about something at some point. It’s an opportunity to learn something new. Lying is nefarious. Intentionally deceiving your audience is far worse than truly believing something that’s wrong. Edited March 10, 2023 by ChiGoose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, ChiGoose said: There is absolutely a difference between being wrong and lying. Being wrong is fine. Everybody is wrong about something at some point. It’s an opportunity to learn something new. Lying is nefarious. Intentionally deceiving your audience is far worse than truly believing something that’s wrong. That should be the most obvious thing in the world. But...yeah. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 4 hours ago, ChiGoose said: There is absolutely a difference between being wrong and lying. Being wrong is fine. Everybody is wrong about something at some point. It’s an opportunity to learn something new. Lying is nefarious. Intentionally deceiving your audience is far worse than truly believing something that’s wrong. The problem is that you think fox and tucker blatantly lie and deceive their audience while other news outlets simply get their facts wrong? They both do the same thing....and if your facts are wrong why are you reporting on it? That's journalism 101 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 5 hours ago, ChiGoose said: There is absolutely a difference between being wrong and lying. Being wrong is fine. Everybody is wrong about something at some point. It’s an opportunity to learn something new. Lying is nefarious. Intentionally deceiving your audience is far worse than truly believing something that’s wrong. So how long should we wait for anyone in the media or government that was "wrong" about anything to admit their mistake, apologize, and issue a retraction? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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