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7 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

There is absolutely a difference between being wrong and lying. 
 

Being wrong is fine. Everybody is wrong about something at some point. It’s an opportunity to learn something new.

 

Lying is nefarious. Intentionally deceiving your audience is far worse than truly believing something that’s wrong. 

 

So either you're nefarious or stupid.  In the end you're still wrong.  But the damage is still the same.

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18 hours ago, ChiGoose said:


So you think there’s no difference between someone believing something and being wrong versus someone knowing something is false and promoting it anyway?

 

Because I think there’s a world of difference between the two. 

 

I'm assuming you're talking about TC promoting the dominion fraud story as being valid on his show.

 

I'll again ask for evidence of TC telling his audience that the dominion voting fraud claims were true. I mean it should be easy to find, right? We have his private communications where he says he believes those claims to be false, now where are the clips from his show where he says they are true?

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14 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

I'm assuming you're talking about TC promoting the dominion fraud story as being valid on his show.

 

I'll again ask for evidence of TC telling his audience that the dominion voting fraud claims were true. I mean it should be easy to find, right? We have his private communications where he says he believes those claims to be false, now where are the clips from his show where he says they are true?


TC hates you

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2 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

So how long should we wait for anyone in the media or government that was "wrong" about anything to admit their mistake, apologize, and issue a retraction?

 

Don't forget @ChiGoose characterizes the entire media reporting that the Hunter laptop is Russian disinformation lie as being true, then that was just an instance where not just one outlet like Fox, but nearly the entire media " just got it wrong"

 

When it's been shown by more than a few honest journalists just how simple it was to determine that the laptop emails were indeed authentic.

 

I don't see him/her/them having any reservations about trusting any of those sources going forward.

 

 

 

And it still remains more than curious why that during an insurrection there still isn't to this day one single defendant charged with insurrection.  Not even the shaman.

 

Weird.

 

 

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1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

Don't forget @ChiGoose characterizes the entire media reporting that the Hunter laptop is Russian disinformation lie as being true, then that was just an instance where not just one outlet like Fox, but nearly the entire media " just got it wrong"

 

When it's been shown by more than a few honest journalists just how simple it was to determine that the laptop emails were indeed authentic.

 

I don't see him/her/them having any reservations about trusting any of those sources going forward.

 

 

 

And it still remains more than curious why that during an insurrection there still isn't to this day one single defendant charged with insurrection.  Not even the shaman.

 

Weird.

 

 

 

Yeah they knew it was real and were nefarious.  Or they were stupid.  Neither is a good look. And again they were wrong.

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21 hours ago, ChiGoose said:


As anyone who has been actually following the events instead of living in the fever swamps knows, there were instances in which the Capitol Police declined to use force because they were outnumbered and/or it would have made a bad situation worse.

 

However, if officers were actively assisting the rioters, then yeah, they should be punished for that. There was at least one Capitol police officer charged due to their actions on that day. 

 

 

If you expect someone to respond to a post on a message board within one hour on a workday, I think that says more about you than it does about them. Maybe go touch some grass for a bit. 
 

Not all Trump supporters are bad, nor are they all complicit in what happened on Jan 6. 
 

Some of the Jan 6 people were just trespassing, some got caught up in the moment and acted destructively and violently, while a small minority went there with the intent to disrupt Congress violently if needed. 

That’s why you see various charges and sentences being handed out to them. It’s not a broad brush where everyone was in the same boat. . 

I think this is spot on, and I’ve said as much for 2 plus years. 
 

Interestingly, @redtail hawk suggested I was trying to justify the actions of miscreants on 1/6 yet here he’s got a hearty thumbs up.  @L Ron Burgundy offered that folks involved in the day should rot, yet your summary seems rational and nuanced, and he likes it, too. 
 

Huh. 
 

On a related note, if you extrapolated this reasoned and rational response to the world at large, bottled it up in a candidate of any color, shape, size, and that identified as on the spectrum as m/w/o, called themself a D, R, I or “Any of the above”, and offered sensible solutions to our nation’s problems, some of which I would disagree with due my own life experiences….I’d vote for that person 10/10 times. 

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On 3/9/2023 at 5:12 PM, ChiGoose said:


As anyone who has been actually following the events instead of living in the fever swamps knows, there were instances in which the Capitol Police declined to use force because they were outnumbered and/or it would have made a bad situation worse.

 

However, if officers were actively assisting the rioters, then yeah, they should be punished for that. There was at least one Capitol police officer charged due to their actions on that day. 

 

 

So in the case of the shaman Chansley, we now know thanks to TC that:

 

He was escorted through the halls of the Capitol by himself, at one point calmly walking within arms length of nine Capitol police officers.

 

Would it have made a bad situation worse if when CP outnumbered the shaman 9:1, one of them simply took him into custody?

 

Since none of the nine actually did take him into custody when they easily could have before he entered the Senate chamber, is it safe to say that at best they failed in their duty and at worst they did indeed assist him in his insurrectionist endeavors?

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On 3/10/2023 at 7:20 AM, BillsFanNC said:

Lunatic leftists.  Please share clips where TC supported Sidney Powell and her Dominion claims?

 

Because here's a link to TC where he specifically tells his audience that there is no evidence at all.

 

 

 

No clips yet of TC on his show explicitly endorsing the dominion fraud claims as being true?

 

Why not? This evidence should be readily available, right?

 

Or is the answer that you commies have been fed a false narrative once again?

 

:lol:

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On 3/11/2023 at 12:01 PM, BillsFanNC said:

 

No clips yet of TC on his show explicitly endorsing the dominion fraud claims as being true?

 

Why not? This evidence should be readily available, right?

 

Or is the answer that you commies have been fed a false narrative once again?

 

:lol:

 

Still no clips of TC supporting Dominion voting fraud claims?

 

I'm stunned.

 

It's almost as if none exist because he never supported those claims on his show.

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Lincoln Project trolls punch themselves in the nards with lame attempt at dunking on Tucker Carlson

 

Oh sad, silly, ridiculous, grifting, The Lincoln Project – we can DEFINITELY think of a bigger liar than Tucker Carlson.

 

#GetAMirror

 

We get it, they tweet, write, say, and produce a lot of stupid stuff but this was dumb even for them. They had to know what the majority of responses would be. Then again, they are trending BUT not in a good way soooo … yeah.

 

This is what we call ‘low-hanging fruit’ but the day after we lose an hour for some stupid reason we’ll take an easy one to write about until the caffeine really and truly hits the ol’ bloodstream.

 

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/03/13/the-lincoln-projects-lame-attempt-to-paint-tucker-carlson-as-a-liar-backfires-in-a-spectacular-way/

 

 

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Tucker Carlson Gets Real About His Regrets in Media, and You Need to Hear It

 

 

There are a lot of figures populating the news media space in 2023, but Fox News’ Tucker Carlson routinely finds himself above the fray. That’s not just because he has a top-rated show, but because he obviously doesn’t formulate his positions based on how popular they will be.

 

Carlson has taken a lot of flack over the years for not toeing the line, and that includes a lot of incoming fire from the conservative commentariat. His opinions on the conflict between Ukraine and Russia have earned him scorn from some Republicans, and his views on the COVID-19 vaccine were contentious. Carlson’s more recent exposure of footage from January 6th also resulted in gnashing of teeth among GOP politicians.

 

But whether you agree with him or not on a given issue, I think you have respect that he’s his own person. He’s not just blindly reading party talking points like some others on his network are so obviously doing (you can guess who I’m talking about).

 

That’s what made the podcast appearance by Carlson that I’m about to share with you so interesting. In it, he gets honest in a way about his regrets in a way so many others would never dream of doing. In my opinion, it’s a must watch for anyone who follows politics.

 

 

{snip}

 

He continued from there, listing out other regrets. Those include calling people names and dismissing people as conspiracy theorists when he should have given them a chance to explain their position. How often does that come into play in today’s political culture? The answer is every single day. The incessant name-calling and the dismissal of anyone who dares to step outside of the chosen narrative is a cornerstone of the current media environment.

 

CARLSON: For too long, I participated in the culture where I was like, “anyone who thinks outside these pre-prescribed lanes is crazy, is a conspiracy theorist.” And I just really regret that, I’m ashamed that I did that.

 

Do you want to know why Carlson is so popular? That line right there explains it all. It’s easy to go with the flow and stick to the script. He has the highest-rated show in cable news because he threw those shackles off. It’s that simple, and it’s why the Joy Reids and Chris Wallaces of the world will never be competition.

 

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/03/16/tucker-carlson-gets-real-about-his-regrets-in-media-and-you-need-to-hear-it-n717461

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4 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Tucker Carlson Gets Real About His Regrets in Media, and You Need to Hear It

 

 

There are a lot of figures populating the news media space in 2023, but Fox News’ Tucker Carlson routinely finds himself above the fray. That’s not just because he has a top-rated show, but because he obviously doesn’t formulate his positions based on how popular they will be.

 

Carlson has taken a lot of flack over the years for not toeing the line, and that includes a lot of incoming fire from the conservative commentariat. His opinions on the conflict between Ukraine and Russia have earned him scorn from some Republicans, and his views on the COVID-19 vaccine were contentious. Carlson’s more recent exposure of footage from January 6th also resulted in gnashing of teeth among GOP politicians.

 

But whether you agree with him or not on a given issue, I think you have respect that he’s his own person. He’s not just blindly reading party talking points like some others on his network are so obviously doing (you can guess who I’m talking about).

 

That’s what made the podcast appearance by Carlson that I’m about to share with you so interesting. In it, he gets honest in a way about his regrets in a way so many others would never dream of doing. In my opinion, it’s a must watch for anyone who follows politics.

 

 

{snip}

 

He continued from there, listing out other regrets. Those include calling people names and dismissing people as conspiracy theorists when he should have given them a chance to explain their position. How often does that come into play in today’s political culture? The answer is every single day. The incessant name-calling and the dismissal of anyone who dares to step outside of the chosen narrative is a cornerstone of the current media environment.

 

CARLSON: For too long, I participated in the culture where I was like, “anyone who thinks outside these pre-prescribed lanes is crazy, is a conspiracy theorist.” And I just really regret that, I’m ashamed that I did that.

 

Do you want to know why Carlson is so popular? That line right there explains it all. It’s easy to go with the flow and stick to the script. He has the highest-rated show in cable news because he threw those shackles off. It’s that simple, and it’s why the Joy Reids and Chris Wallaces of the world will never be competition.

 

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/03/16/tucker-carlson-gets-real-about-his-regrets-in-media-and-you-need-to-hear-it-n717461

Nope.  much more simple explanation.  It's what his audience wants to hear and he's plugged into them.  Somebody must be consulting cuz 

i don't think he hangs out with them.

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He's such a bad liar

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3911174-tucker-carlson-enraged-private-texts-revealed-i-love-trump/

In one text exchange with a fellow Fox employee, Carlson said of Trump “I hate him passionately.”

“We are very very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights, I truly can’t wait,” Carlson wrote in a text to an unidentified Fox employee on Jan. 4, 2021, according to a recent court filing by Dominion. 

However, Carlson sought to cast the president in a different light during the radio interview this week. 

“Oh, let’s see. I spent four years defending his policies and I, I’m going to defend them again tonight,” Carlson said. “And actually, and I’m pretty straight forward, I’m um I love Trump. Like, as a person, I think Trump is funny and insightful.”

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16 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

He's such a bad liar

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3911174-tucker-carlson-enraged-private-texts-revealed-i-love-trump/

In one text exchange with a fellow Fox employee, Carlson said of Trump “I hate him passionately.”

“We are very very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights, I truly can’t wait,” Carlson wrote in a text to an unidentified Fox employee on Jan. 4, 2021, according to a recent court filing by Dominion. 

However, Carlson sought to cast the president in a different light during the radio interview this week. 

“Oh, let’s see. I spent four years defending his policies and I, I’m going to defend them again tonight,” Carlson said. “And actually, and I’m pretty straight forward, I’m um I love Trump. Like, as a person, I think Trump is funny and insightful.”

Very manly of Tucker, cowering in fear that Trump may cut him off and destroy his livelihood. “I hate him passionately” - how dare my employer release my texts! I meant it in the nicest possible way. 
Tucker fans: he continues to play you for the fools you are. 

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