Greg S 1,488 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Tom Pelissero on Twitter: "#Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger's new contract for 2021 utilizes a signing bonus, minimum base salary and voidable years to free up about $15 million of cap space, per source. Big Ben takes a $5M paycut, from $19M to $14M, giving the team much-needed breathing room." / Twitter 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BuffaloBills1998 711 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 They’re going to be in some trouble when Ben retires. He’s been a shell of his former self for last couple years now and the team is fading around him, no o line no running game and no number 1 WR. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LABILLBACKER 4,191 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 The Steelers are basically the Patriots. They're irrelevant without a qb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Royale with Cheese 11,250 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Are you hearing this Joshua Patrick Allen? How about $1 million a year from the Bills and Nike pays you $39 million a year? 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RichRiderBills 553 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Would not have gone in this direction myself. Steelers are super loyal to QBs , great....enjoy the celler . 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SoCal Deek 5,161 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 It feels to me like the Steelers have been winning in spite of, not because of, Big Ben for a while now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Miyagi-Do Karate 4,666 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 You all are too hard on Ben. Their OC was horrible— just a bad internal hire who has now been let go. And their line was old and terrible. Ben doesn’t have the huge arm and mobility anymore— but he has a big enough arm to make all the throws he needs to. The Steelers-Colts game late last year was clear evidence of that. When he started calling his own plays in that game, the offense looked a lot better. I think this was the smart move to sign him back. Gives them time to find a successor, and I would expect them to be in the fight for a playoff spot with Ben, a better oline, a better OC, and a top-5 defense. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thenorthremembers 2,945 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 3 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: You all are too hard on Ben. Their OC was horrible— just a bad internal hire who has now been let go. And their line was old and terrible. Ben doesn’t have the huge arm and mobility anymore— but he has a big enough arm to make all the throws he needs to. The Steelers-Colts game late last year was clear evidence of that. When he started calling his own plays in that game, the offense looked a lot better. I think this was the smart move to sign him back. Gives them time to find a successor, and I would expect them to be in the fight for a playoff spot with Ben, a better oline, a better OC, and a top-5 defense. I agree. Who else were they going to get? You saw what they looked like with Mason Rudolph and Duck Hodges. You dont get rid of a guy who throws 33 touchdowns to 10 ints unless you have another guy who can do that, and only 7 other QBs in the entire NFL did that last year. Ben isn't 2014 Ben anymore, but he still gives them a better shot at getting the the playoffs than anyone else on the free agency market or anyone they are going to be able to draft at 24. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greg S 1,488 Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said: I agree. Who else were they going to get? You saw what they looked like with Mason Rudolph and Duck Hodges. You dont get rid of a guy who throws 33 touchdowns to 10 ints unless you have another guy who can do that, and only 7 other QBs in the entire NFL did that last year. Ben isn't 2014 Ben anymore, but he still gives them a better shot at getting the the playoffs than anyone else on the free agency market or anyone they are going to be able to draft at 24. If the Jets move on from Darnold then I could see Pitt being one of the teams interested. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Miyagi-Do Karate 4,666 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Just now, Greg S said: If the Jets move on from Darnold then I could see Pitt being one of the teams interested. Would the jets take a late 1st rounder for Darnold? I suspect that is all that the Steelers could offer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RichRiderBills 553 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 16 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: You all are too hard on Ben. Their OC was horrible— just a bad internal hire who has now been let go. And their line was old and terrible. Ben doesn’t have the huge arm and mobility anymore— but he has a big enough arm to make all the throws he needs to. The Steelers-Colts game late last year was clear evidence of that. When he started calling his own plays in that game, the offense looked a lot better. I think this was the smart move to sign him back. Gives them time to find a successor, and I would expect them to be in the fight for a playoff spot with Ben, a better oline, a better OC, and a top-5 defense. But the reality is the oline is in shambles and is a muliti year rebuild. The RBs are lousy and they are potentially losing Dupree. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greg S 1,488 Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Would the jets take a late 1st rounder for Darnold? I suspect that is all that the Steelers could offer. Definitely. IMHO. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MasterStrategist 276 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 14 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: You all are too hard on Ben. Their OC was horrible— just a bad internal hire who has now been let go. And their line was old and terrible. Ben doesn’t have the huge arm and mobility anymore— but he has a big enough arm to make all the throws he needs to. The Steelers-Colts game late last year was clear evidence of that. When he started calling his own plays in that game, the offense looked a lot better. I think this was the smart move to sign him back. Gives them time to find a successor, and I would expect them to be in the fight for a playoff spot with Ben, a better oline, a better OC, and a top-5 defense. 1. they didn't "sign him back", just changed some financial obligations 2. basically steelers got themselves into this ugly deal, so best they could do was create a fake 4yr voidable extension, convert salary to signing bonus, and spread that cap. On top of this, Ben takes a $5m pay cut So all in all, Steelers continue to kick the can. They will "void" his contract next yr, and have a $10m dead cap hit. Not much else Steelers could do. Although Mason showed up well in that last game against Cleveland, he's not the future. I also.dont think Steelers are fixing all their offensive issues in 1 offseason, given they are already in cap hell. Pouncey retired, Villenueva is a FA, as well others. I will give you better o-coordinator, but that defense will likely regress without Dupree (either gone in FA, or not fully healed) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ridgewaycynic2013 7,647 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 How long has it been since NFL announcers were able to talk about 'The Over the Hill Gang'? 🤔 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jeremy2020 2,092 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 51 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: Would not have gone in this direction myself. Steelers are super loyal to QBs , great....enjoy the celler . While I agree with you that they will struggle with him at QB... they're going to struggle without him and he will be a great filler QB for whomever they bring in to replace Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BUFFALOBART 843 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: They’re going to be in some trouble when Ben retires. He’s been a shell of his former self for last couple years now and the team is fading around him, no o line no running game and no number 1 WR. He appears to be disinterested, when you look for any emotion on his face, as if he has 'already left the building'. That being said, he threw for 505 yards, in that playoff loss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hapless Bills Fan 27,023 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 49 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: I agree. Who else were they going to get? Welllllllllll.... I don't know if I should mention this, but Pittsburgh did sign Dwayne Haskins.... 14 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: He appears to be disinterested, when you look for any emotion on his face, as if he has 'already left the building'. That being said, he threw for 505 yards, in that playoff loss. He looked as though he was going to cry at the end of that game. I don't think it's a useful thing to feel that if a vet QB doesn't show emotion publicly on his face, he doesn't have any or he's disinterested. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IgotBILLStopay 1,618 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 14 mill is still above expectation. I thought he would come in around 10 mill given no other team wants him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shaw66 7,620 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: You all are too hard on Ben. Their OC was horrible— just a bad internal hire who has now been let go. And their line was old and terrible. Ben doesn’t have the huge arm and mobility anymore— but he has a big enough arm to make all the throws he needs to. The Steelers-Colts game late last year was clear evidence of that. When he started calling his own plays in that game, the offense looked a lot better. I think this was the smart move to sign him back. Gives them time to find a successor, and I would expect them to be in the fight for a playoff spot with Ben, a better oline, a better OC, and a top-5 defense. I agree, too. Everyone undervalues brains and experience. Look at what Rivers did last season. Brissett couldn't do that, and Rivers arm is no better than Brissett's. And Brissett is much more mobile. But Rivers, like Ben, thinks about the game at a very high level. Good move by Steelers while they try to figure out who's next. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hapless Bills Fan 27,023 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 20 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: I agree, too. Everyone undervalues brains and experience. Look at what Rivers did last season. Brissett couldn't do that, and Rivers arm is no better than Brissett's. And Brissett is much more mobile. But Rivers, like Ben, thinks about the game at a very high level. Good move by Steelers while they try to figure out who's next. Brains are fine, but body is needed too. By the end of the season, Big Ben's brain was writing checks his arm talent couldn't cash for him 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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