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ChiGoose Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Huh. Seems bad. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna33755 Quote The nine-page document, filed in federal court Wednesday, lays out a plan to fill buildings “with patriots and communicate our demands." It's stated goals include maintaining control "over a select few, but crucial buildings in the DC area for a set period of time" and getting as "many people as possible inside these buildings." Quote When it's time for "patriots" to storm the buildings, individuals might have to cause "trouble near the front doors to distract guards," the plan states. "The goal is to ensure there is an entry point for the masses to rush the building." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 22 hours ago, Tiberius said: Pretty easy case. Trump raised $250 million for a fund that didn't exist, lol Lock that scumbag up!! If you’re willing to lock a politician up because he gave people a tour of the Capitol, you’re going to lock up a lot of politicians. I may be missing some/any of the evidence pointing to criminal behavior, but beyond giving a tour in unrestricted areas, in full view of security cameras…is there something else the tweeter chose not to reveal? Direct connection to those charged with sedition? The names of the individuals who received the tours, their current status? Has law enforcement charged him with a crime, or is there an ongoing criminal probe directed at him? I googled “Loudermilk Criminal Probe” and a couple other terms but wasn’t able to find anything beyond this commentary from the, uh, Capitol Police: https://nypost.com/2022/06/14/rep-loudermilks-riot-eve-capitol-tour-not-suspicious-police/ When you wonder why precious few applaud the political theater of the 1/6 committee, it’s things like this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 13 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: If you’re willing to lock a politician up because he gave people a tour of the Capitol, you’re going to lock up a lot of politicians. I may be missing some/any of the evidence pointing to criminal behavior, but beyond giving a tour in unrestricted areas, in full view of security cameras…is there something else the tweeter chose not to reveal? Direct connection to those charged with sedition? The names of the individuals who received the tours, their current status? Has law enforcement charged him with a crime, or is there an ongoing criminal probe directed at him? I googled “Loudermilk Criminal Probe” and a couple other terms but wasn’t able to find anything beyond this commentary from the, uh, Capitol Police: https://nypost.com/2022/06/14/rep-loudermilks-riot-eve-capitol-tour-not-suspicious-police/ When you wonder why precious few applaud the political theater of the 1/6 committee, it’s things like this. He aided and abetted a riot and a breaking and entering. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 19 hours ago, ChiGoose said: Huh. Seems bad. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna33755 Lord have mercy. What I really think, in my heart of hearts, is that on 1/6 there were in attendance some serious rabble rousers who felt justified and emboldened and goaded BY Donald Trump to breach the capitol. I don't think every person who entered the capital did so with the thought of insurrection. Maybe for them it was a moment in time they took advantage of, to be part of their righteous indignation they felt at the loss of their candidate for president. Crowd mentality. What the really bad actors intended that day Thank Goodness they weren't able to achieve. It could have been so much worse. When it was happening in real time I was waiting for the bomb sniffing dogs to be deployed. Who knew what anyone was bringing into the capital. Poorly planned at the very least, Plans foiled maybe. *shrugs* all in all an ugly eevent in our nations history. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, muppy said: Lord have mercy. What I really think, in my heart of hearts, is that on 1/6 there were in attendance some serious rabble rousers who felt justified and emboldened and goaded BY Donald Trump to breach the capitol. I don't think every person who entered the capital did so with the thought of insurrection. Maybe for them it was a moment in time they took advantage of, to be part of their righteous indignation they felt at the loss of their candidate for president. Crowd mentality. What the really bad actors intended that day Thank Goodness they weren't able to achieve. It could have been so much worse. When it was happening in real time I was waiting for the bomb sniffing dogs to be deployed. Who knew what anyone was bringing into the capital. Poorly planned at the very least, Plans foiled maybe. *shrugs* all in all an ugly eevent in our nations history. No one brought any firearms into the Capitol, which is what it would taken at least to have any sort of effect. Plans weren't foiled: there weren't any plans once they got inside. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, Doc said: No one brought any firearms into the Capitol, which is what it would taken at least to have any sort of effect. Plans weren't foiled: there weren't any plans once they got inside. Yeah - just your average tourist outing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 57 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: If you’re willing to lock a politician up because he gave people a tour of the Capitol, you’re going to lock up a lot of politicians. I may be missing some/any of the evidence pointing to criminal behavior, but beyond giving a tour in unrestricted areas, in full view of security cameras…is there something else the tweeter chose not to reveal? Direct connection to those charged with sedition? The names of the individuals who received the tours, their current status? Has law enforcement charged him with a crime, or is there an ongoing criminal probe directed at him? I googled “Loudermilk Criminal Probe” and a couple other terms but wasn’t able to find anything beyond this commentary from the, uh, Capitol Police: https://nypost.com/2022/06/14/rep-loudermilks-riot-eve-capitol-tour-not-suspicious-police/ When you wonder why precious few applaud the political theater of the 1/6 committee, it’s things like this. We now know what the man in the January 6 Committee video filmed in the stairwell. As we told you yesterday, the January 6 Committee released a video showing a man allegedly on a tour led by George GOP Rep. Barry Loudermilk, where he “photographed/recorded areas not typically of interest to tourists: hallways, staircases and security checkpoints.” ICYMI, here’s that video again: Later on in the day, Rep. Loudermilk said the man was taking a photo of a “golden eagle sconce” on the wall: And here’s the sconce. Pretty cool, right? Like, it IS something you’d take a photo of if you’re touring the Capitol: Unbelievable. Why should we trust a single thing released by the committee? Think about it, a group made up of congressmen and their staffers didn’t bother to even check what might be in that stairwell before smearing an American citizen: And journos went along with it. https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2022/06/16/we-now-know-what-the-man-in-the-january-6-committee-video-filmed-in-the-stairwell-why-should-we-trust-anything-dems-journos-say-going-forward/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: He aided and abetted a riot and a breaking and entering. And the Capitol Police, FBI, DOJ etc haven’t picked up on it yet? Did you try emailing them directly…maybe give them your pager number? Seriously, you have to have more than this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: And the Capitol Police, FBI, DOJ etc haven’t picked up on it yet? Did you try emailing them directly…maybe give them your pager number? Seriously, you have to have more than this. You wouldn't care if he was trying to do. You guys want to tear down our constitutional republic and could care less what these animals are doing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, muppy said: Lord have mercy. What I really think, in my heart of hearts, is that on 1/6 there were in attendance some serious rabble rousers who felt justified and emboldened and goaded BY Donald Trump to breach the capitol. I don't think every person who entered the capital did so with the thought of insurrection. Maybe for them it was a moment in time they took advantage of, to be part of their righteous indignation they felt at the loss of their candidate for president. Crowd mentality. What the really bad actors intended that day Thank Goodness they weren't able to achieve. It could have been so much worse. When it was happening in real time I was waiting for the bomb sniffing dogs to be deployed. Who knew what anyone was bringing into the capital. Poorly planned at the very least, Plans foiled maybe. *shrugs* all in all an ugly eevent in our nations history. It was an ugly day in our history to be sure. Law enforcement should punish wrongdoers, the guilty pursued, and the lack of security addressed with transparency. I have zero faith in the transparency leg, which taints pretty much everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 19 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You wouldn't care if he was trying to do. You guys want to tear down our constitutional republic and could care less what these animals are doing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 25 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: You sure don’t care that Trump tried stealing and election 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 So Eastman knew he was lying and they proved it 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 3 hours ago, B-Man said: We now know what the man in the January 6 Committee video filmed in the stairwell. As we told you yesterday, the January 6 Committee released a video showing a man allegedly on a tour led by George GOP Rep. Barry Loudermilk, where he “photographed/recorded areas not typically of interest to tourists: hallways, staircases and security checkpoints.” ICYMI, here’s that video again: Later on in the day, Rep. Loudermilk said the man was taking a photo of a “golden eagle sconce” on the wall: And here’s the sconce. Pretty cool, right? Like, it IS something you’d take a photo of if you’re touring the Capitol: Unbelievable. Why should we trust a single thing released by the committee? Think about it, a group made up of congressmen and their staffers didn’t bother to even check what might be in that stairwell before smearing an American citizen: And journos went along with it. https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2022/06/16/we-now-know-what-the-man-in-the-january-6-committee-video-filmed-in-the-stairwell-why-should-we-trust-anything-dems-journos-say-going-forward/ That sconce was the key to it all! 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: And the Capitol Police, FBI, DOJ etc haven’t picked up on it yet? Did you try emailing them directly…maybe give them your pager number? Seriously, you have to have more than this. No, they really really don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: And the Capitol Police, FBI, DOJ etc haven’t picked up on it yet? Did you try emailing them directly…maybe give them your pager number? Seriously, you have to have more than this. And you know that how? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 On 6/14/2022 at 5:17 PM, Coffeesforclosers said: ***** grown ass men and women You said "ass" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 NBC is apparently “choosing golf over democracy”: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 52 minutes ago, Tiberius said: This must be true....she has not one but TWO Ukranian flags on her Twitter handle. These are truly ridiculous people! 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: You sure don’t care that Trump tried stealing and election I do care about the Republic, Tibsy, probably more than you when Russiagate collapsed like the North Wall in Game of Thrones, S 7. I’m just a realist, and limit my suspension of same for amusement park rides, movies and a good tv series like GOT. For a while back when I was a young guy, Farrah Fawcett was on the list as well. Stop the political jabberwocky, get some charges filed outside this demo circle jerk and we can talk. Maybe Jennifer I Stand With Ukraine Rubin is on to something here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Doc said: No one brought any firearms into the Capitol, which is what it would taken at least to have any sort of effect. Plans weren't foiled: there weren't any plans once they got inside. that's a fair take and opinion. I like how the one security guard hoodwinked a bunch of folks away not towards congressmen that day. Some folks just are smart thinking on their feet. Great job man. Its a quagmire of information that of course each partisan side has their take. I just want facts and correct discernment and knowledge. That's it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Just now, muppy said: that's a fair take and opinion. I like how the one security guard hoodwinked a bunch of folks away not towards congressmen that day. Some folks just are smart thinking on their feet. Great job man. Its a quagmire of information that of course each partisan side has their take. I just want facts and correct discernment and knowledge. That's it. I doubt we'll get any of that from these hearings. Again I look at the lack of weapons brought in and people just leaving on their own after a few hours. That tells me no one was there to do anything other than protest, with maybe a few rabble-rousers looking to cause trouble, but with no plan what to once inside the building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: It was an ugly day in our history to be sure. Law enforcement should punish wrongdoers, the guilty pursued, and the lack of security addressed with transparency. I have zero faith in the transparency leg, which taints pretty much everything else. lack of security to secure the capitol that day #UNDERSTATEMENT geez I mean Yes it was another side of this whole situation which makes muppy go hmmmmmm 3 minutes ago, Doc said: I doubt we'll get any of that from these hearings. Again I look at the lack of weapons brought in and people just leaving on their own after a few hours. That tells me no one was there to do anything other than protest, with maybe a few rabble-rousers looking to cause trouble, but with no plan what to once inside the building. lack of weapons THANK GOD. that in itself is significant I agree. The information within this tread just is unsettling...best way I can put it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillStime said: And you know that how? Why are you asking me a question based on an assertion made by Tibs? I had the same question, that’s why I asked Tibsy what more he had beyond what had transpired to that point: 1. That he alleged something about the specific actions of a representative, including a full-throated frothy declaration that he be locked up; 2. That I searched the internet and found no indication of a criminal probe into the specific actions of the targeted representative that Tibs wants locked up; 3. That I found the Capitol Police stating there was nothing suspicious about the actions of the representative in question and the actions that Tibs specifically feels were criminal involving something like abetting a riot and breaking and entering. He declined to provide additional information, but did manage to accuse me of supporting the downfall of the Republic because I said that congressional tours are pretty freaking common. In your response, you included a generic statement about concerns the 1/6 committee is hampering* the DOJ criminal probe and has requested all transcripts. Is it your contention that the statement you provided deals specifically with the discussion Tibs and I were having? If it’s one of the “specific prosecutions” mentioned in your post, please, share. *Hampering criminal probe”. That’s interesting. Edited June 16, 2022 by leh-nerd skin-erd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineforty Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 45 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I do care about the Republic, Tibsy, probably more than you when Russiagate collapsed like the North Wall in Game of Thrones, S 7. I’m just a realist, and limit my suspension of same for amusement park rides, movies and a good tv series like GOT. For a while back when I was a young guy, Farrah Fawcett was on the list as well. Stop the political jabberwocky, get some charges filed outside this demo circle jerk and we can talk. Maybe Jennifer I Stand With Ukraine Rubin is on to something here. you are beyond help, on a human/soul level. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 53 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I do care about the Republic, Tibsy, probably more than you when Russiagate collapsed like the North Wall in Game of Thrones, S 7. I’m just a realist, and limit my suspension of same for amusement park rides, movies and a good tv series like GOT. For a while back when I was a young guy, Farrah Fawcett was on the list as well. Stop the political jabberwocky, get some charges filed outside this demo circle jerk and we can talk. Maybe Jennifer I Stand With Ukraine Rubin is on to something here. I do not believe you care about our republic. There is no way 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: This must be true....she has not one but TWO Ukranian flags on her Twitter handle. These are truly ridiculous people! As if you care. You could care less the guy was trying to overthrow our republic. Admit it. Or just mock it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You could care less the guy was trying to overthrow our republic. Admit it. Or just mock it. By the guy.....do you mean Putin? The oil company executives? Bill Barr? The Rich? I'm having a hard time keeping up with who we're supposed to be blaming these days? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: By the guy.....do you mean Putin? The oil company executives? Bill Barr? The Rich? I'm having a hard time keeping up with who we're supposed to be blaming these days? ok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Why are you asking me a question based on an assertion made by Tibs? I had the same question, that’s why I asked Tibsy what more he had beyond what had transpired to that point: 1. That he alleged something about the specific actions of a representative, including a full-throated frothy declaration that he be locked up; 2. That I searched the internet and found no indication of a criminal probe into the specific actions of the targeted representative that Tibs wants locked up; 3. That I found the Capitol Police stating there was nothing suspicious about the actions of the representative in question and the actions that Tibs specifically feels were criminal involving something like abetting a riot and breaking and entering. He declined to provide additional information, but did manage to accuse me of supporting the downfall of the Republic because I said that congressional tours are pretty freaking common. In your response, you included a generic statement about concerns the 1/6 committee is hampering* the DOJ criminal probe and has requested all transcripts. Is it your contention that the statement you provided deals specifically with the discussion Tibs and I were having? If it’s one of the “specific prosecutions” mentioned in your post, please, share. *Hampering criminal probe”. That’s interesting. My question was clear Lenny. Keep up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Nineforty said: you are beyond help, on a human/soul level. And yet, I forgive you for your inhumanity and your hubris. God Bless you. 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: My question was clear Lenny. Keep up As was my response, soldier. Again, I tried. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: As was my response, soldier. Again, I tried. 4 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: And the Capitol Police, FBI, DOJ etc haven’t picked up on it yet? You asked a question - not knowing what is going on... as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 54 minutes ago, BillStime said: You asked a question - not knowing what is going on... as usual. That’s the nature of a question, Billst. I assumed everyone knew that. Fortunately, the internet assumes some basic understanding of grammar, sentence structure, punctuation etc, but it can be a tolerant and forgiving place for folks who may have skipped grades 1-12. Interestingly, the humble question mark is near universally accepted as the go-to punctuation when a query is in play, but it’s first recorded usage only dates back to 1862. I feel I like that’s significant, but don’t want those wheels of yours grinding away on this whole question thing. I offer: What a ride. What, a ride? What a ride! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Doc said: I doubt we'll get any of that from these hearings. Again I look at the lack of weapons brought in and people just leaving on their own after a few hours. That tells me no one was there to do anything other than protest, with maybe a few rabble-rousers looking to cause trouble, but with no plan what to once inside the building. Have people forgotten about this guy and his buddies? They were on a mission. Clearly they had a different purpose to be there than the crazy rioters. Edited June 17, 2022 by Andy1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 4 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: That’s the nature of a question, Billst. I assumed everyone knew that. Fortunately, the internet assumes some basic understanding of grammar, sentence structure, punctuation etc, but it can be a tolerant and forgiving place for folks who may have skipped grades 1-12. Interestingly, the humble question mark is near universally accepted as the go-to punctuation when a query is in play, but it’s first recorded usage only dates back to 1862. I feel I like that’s significant, but don’t want those wheels of yours grinding away on this whole question thing. I offer: What a ride. What, a ride? What a ride! its first recorded usage* if you are going to shittt on someone's grammar try to do it right 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 12 hours ago, Tiberius said: I made it a point to not follow anyone with a Ukraine flag on twitter. The self righteousness is nauseating. I now feel more confident in my decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 11 hours ago, muppy said: that's a fair take and opinion. I like how the one security guard hoodwinked a bunch of folks away not towards congressmen that day. Some folks just are smart thinking on their feet. Great job man. Its a quagmire of information that of course each partisan side has their take. I just want facts and correct discernment and knowledge. That's it. 11 hours ago, Doc said: I doubt we'll get any of that from these hearings. Again I look at the lack of weapons brought in and people just leaving on their own after a few hours. That tells me no one was there to do anything other than protest, with maybe a few rabble-rousers looking to cause trouble, but with no plan what to once inside the building. We've already gotten facts and knowledge from people with direct involvement. I'm not sure how anyone can deny that. What they do with it is up for debate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 12 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: That’s the nature of a question, Billst. I assumed everyone knew that. Fortunately, the internet assumes some basic understanding of grammar, sentence structure, punctuation etc, but it can be a tolerant and forgiving place for folks who may have skipped grades 1-12. Interestingly, the humble question mark is near universally accepted as the go-to punctuation when a query is in play, but it’s first recorded usage only dates back to 1862. I feel I like that’s significant, but don’t want those wheels of yours grinding away on this whole question thing. I offer: What a ride. What, a ride? What a ride! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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