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3 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

You have to factor in the loss value of a lost year of his prime. Any new team that trades for him will now get one less year of his prime. They also lose the benefit of Watson being on a cheaper contract next season. His cap hit really ramps up starting in 2022.

 

Comparing the Stafford and Watson situation is comparing apples to oranges. Stafford had been with the team for a decade and it was clear both parties needed to move on for the betterment of all. The Texans and Watson are in a completely different relationship stage. 

 

A year of his prime doesn't matter.  QBs are playing well into their 30's and he's just 25 and his contract runs through age 30.  And if he sits out, no wear and tear on his body.  That's an issue for the next contract.

 

As for being more expensive a year later, I'm sure a trade this year would involve an immediate new deal.  Especially if he has to repay his guaranteed money, which I'm sure the Texans will demand before he's traded.

 

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Live look at Bill OBrien as he attempts to get a job with Watson's new team  

IMO, Houston shouldn't trade him. Tell him to play...or sit out.

No.  He’s just using Bills fans to drive his mentions, clicks and audience    Really can’t believe bills fans continue to pay attention and link anything and everything he does. 

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2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

 

This scene is one of the hardest to watch in movie history. 


absolutely brutal. 😂

 

I love how Caserio is just sending everyone straight to voicemail too - as if they ignore the issue long enough it’ll just go away. I’m sure taking that route is coming straight from McNair and Littlefinger too. Bunch of real professionals they got running the show down there. 

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17 hours ago, Doc said:

 

If he's OK being traded to the Jets...

Jets are in the NYC Metro area.  His off field marketing profile ($$$) will go up exponentially.  And, from reports, he likes Robert Saleh.  No word on his opinion of Dan Campbell.  Jets also have $ to spend on FA and I’d be willing to bet several would come to play with Watson.

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I still contend it would be suicide for Caserio and the no name new head coach to allow it.  Once the draft is over, the picks etc., are less of a motivator for the Texans.  What is Watson going to leave $25 mil. In a holdout.  That won’t happen.  The new coach and GM will have to try and find a way to mend fences.  I don’t see it.

 

I'm just a regular guy so I could be wrong, but I would be shocked if we ever see this trade this year.  It is even more advantageous for other teams as Watson’s contract had a ton in bonuses making his salary very palatable for other teams, but even more powerful motivator by the Texans to not take any offers.

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23 hours ago, Doc said:

 

If he's OK being traded to the Jets...

 

The JEST play in a big city area where he can get endorsement deals to pair with extension signing bonus from Texans. It makes sense if money if getting the money and running is his goal.

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17 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

So Watson should just wait ten years for the Texans to ruin his prime? Your point might hold more water if the Lions traded away Calvin Johnson earlier in his career for some washed up rb,

 

So Stafford has actually been with the Lions for 12 years. There is a huge difference between 4 years (Watson) and 12 years (Stafford). Not saying he has to wait as long as Stafford did but Watson just signed a contract extension last year. Even if he waits half as long as Stafford that only puts him at year 6. 

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4 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

I still contend it would be suicide for Caserio and the no name new head coach to allow it.  Once the draft is over, the picks etc., are less of a motivator for the Texans.  What is Watson going to leave $25 mil. In a holdout.  That won’t happen.  The new coach and GM will have to try and find a way to mend fences.  I don’t see it.

 

I'm just a regular guy so I could be wrong, but I would be shocked if we ever see this trade this year.  It is even more advantageous for other teams as Watson’s contract had a ton in bonuses making his salary very palatable for other teams, but even more powerful motivator by the Texans to not take any offers.

 

 

The desperation for the teams that want Watson will only increase over the next year.  

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8 hours ago, purple haze said:

Jets are in the NYC Metro area.  His off field marketing profile ($$$) will go up exponentially.  And, from reports, he likes Robert Saleh.  No word on his opinion of Dan Campbell.  Jets also have $ to spend on FA and I’d be willing to bet several would come to play with Watson.


The Jets have cap space and picks, but need an absurd amount of help on both sides of the ball.  

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I feel like people aren't taking the Catch-22 situation for a new GM into account enough. Superstar QB is trying to impose his will on the franchise. If Caserio trades him he's basically opening the doors to any other player in the future who wants to hold out/demand a trade and letting them know he will blink first. If I'm Caserio I strong-arm Watson and force him to play or sit out and then trade him next year when I actually get to scout the picks I'm making.  

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6 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

I still contend it would be suicide for Caserio and the no name new head coach to allow it.  Once the draft is over, the picks etc., are less of a motivator for the Texans.  What is Watson going to leave $25 mil. In a holdout.  That won’t happen.  The new coach and GM will have to try and find a way to mend fences.  I don’t see it.

 

I'm just a regular guy so I could be wrong, but I would be shocked if we ever see this trade this year.  It is even more advantageous for other teams as Watson’s contract had a ton in bonuses making his salary very palatable for other teams, but even more powerful motivator by the Texans to not take any offers.

 

A holdout (no Watson, no picks) would be a much bigger disaster for this FO.  

 

They are 4-12 with him and no draft capital to improve much soon.  He doesn't want to play for this team or its fans anymore.  

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5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

A holdout (no Watson, no picks) would be a much bigger disaster for this FO.  

 

They are 4-12 with him and no draft capital to improve much soon.  He doesn't want to play for this team or its fans anymore.  

Agreed.  Watson wanting out is a blessing in disguise for Casserio.  If they trade Watson, he gets to add a ton of draft picks (and maybe a decent veteran QB like Garappolo or Darnold) and will have the opportunity to put his stamp on the franchise.  There might even be a QB he really likes in this draft...  

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2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

The desperation for the teams that want Watson will only increase over the next year.  

 

Possibly, but at least it won't decrease any.  Not unless a ton of QBs suddenly become great during the season.

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1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

Possibly, but at least it won't decrease any.  Not unless a ton of QBs suddenly become great during the season.

 

 

Actually more QB's rising to the elite level is actually increasing demand.     When it was just Manning, Brady,  Brees and Rodgers in tier 1 "league MVP" type level it was a lot easier to make the excuse that you could still be somewhat successful........and maybe catch a lucky break in the playoffs........without one of those guys.    Now that the field has expanded significantly the have-not's are feeling a lot lonelier and more uncompetitive.        

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2 hours ago, mannc said:

Agreed.  Watson wanting out is a blessing in disguise for Casserio.  If they trade Watson, he gets to add a ton of draft picks (and maybe a decent veteran QB like Garappolo or Darnold) and will have the opportunity to put his stamp on the franchise.  There might even be a QB he really likes in this draft...  

 

A blessing in disguise?    It could very easily take them 20+ years to get another QB like Watson.    Top 5 types are rare and maybe you under-appreciate that because they tend to play a VERY long time so it seems that they must be more replaceable than they are.     The Bills just went 25 years between seasons of elite level QB play.

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16 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

A blessing in disguise?    It could very easily take them 20+ years to get another QB like Watson.    Top 5 types are rare and maybe you under-appreciate that because they tend to play a VERY long time so it seems that they must be more replaceable than they are.     The Bills just went 25 years between seasons of elite level QB play.

I get that.  But my point is, they are in bad shape right now, even with Watson.  Adding 4 first round picks, plus Darnold, could get them healthy in a hurry, especially since that would include the second overall pick this year, which they could turn into even more picks.  They could turn things around pretty quickly and they will have plenty of shots at a QB...

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11 minutes ago, mannc said:

I get that.  But my point is, they are in bad shape right now, even with Watson.  Adding 4 first round picks, plus Darnold, could get them healthy in a hurry, especially since that would include the second overall pick this year, which they could turn into even more picks.  They could turn things around pretty quickly and they will have plenty of shots at a QB...

 

The math is not in the favor of your argument.

 

Traditionally there is about a 15% chance of getting a franchise QB with your first round QB pick.........getting a top 5 guy will be even lower even if the 15% figure isn't as accurate in recent drafts.

 

As for the rest of the picks........... about half of your first round picks don't live up to basic expectations(as defined by not having 5th year option picked up).

 

The piling of draft picks sounds good but if that worked the Browns be a dynasty after all of them they piled up.

 

All the Julio Jones trade bonanza got them was more losing..........and eventually they bottomed out entirely and got a QB who could win some games for them but even then they would appear to be in a QB purgatory now because Baker doesn't look like an elite one.

 

IMO the best way to handle Watson is let him choose to sit............build up the culture and character in that locker room the way McDermott did and Flores has in Miami .........and then maybe you can either mend fences with Watson or trade him next year for another actual superstar QB and possibly more.     

 

Right now what they can be offered is mostly shite.   Darnold is broken and high risk.   I can't imagine drafting anyone other than Trevor from this class and having him come in knowing that he has to follow DeShaun Watson.    That's crazy pressure.   

 

 

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Bottom line, if he has any class at all, he will honor the massive contract extension that he just signed. He’ll be a FA again in 2025, not too late to avoid becoming the 21st century Archie Manning.

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