Coach Tuesday Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 It’s not about “gadget plays” it’s about plays designed specifically for McKenzie and the fact that they move him around the formation to help identify coverages pre-snap and exploit matchup mismatches post-snap. He’s one of the few players on offense who has his own mini playbook. He’s not going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 53 minutes ago, FLbills said: My thoughts are that they'll keep Mckenzie due to his role as a gadget player. Duke is a big-bodied fairly sure-handed receiver. Gabe Davis is similar in build and By all accounts out of training camp, Davis is performing very well. He fills the role of the big receiver. Either way, it's going to be a fun season to watch. Go Bills! @H2osorry about my post. Looks like I pretty much copied what you said. I didn't see your post until after I posted...lol... Mondays No worries my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 5 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Love the hang time on this ball. Arc is so much better than the one on the opposite of the field. On other posts who is QB #10 that threw the duck that was picked off. also I just don’t see Hodgins as a “lock”. He’s been in red contact Jersey a lot and I haven’t heard as many reports of him running with the 1s lately. Duke meanwhile I think have heard running with the 1s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said: Love the hang time on this ball. Arc is so much better than the one on the opposite of the field. On other posts who is QB #10 that threw the duck that was picked off. also I just don’t see Hodgins as a “lock”. He’s been in red contact Jersey a lot and I haven’t heard as many reports of him running with the 1s lately. Duke meanwhile I think have heard running with the 1s 10 is Fromm. I think he’s toast. Hodgins is a lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, eball said: 10 is Fromm. I think he’s toast. Hodgins is a lock. Yeah Fromm hasnt inspired much. I had to argue he wasnt a lock. AND I did argue the same for Hodgins for many the same reasons. I don't understand why hes guaranteed to be scooped up now if he is cut considering he was a late 6th round draft choice. The calculus doesnt seem to have changed much to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, eball said: 10 is Fromm. I think he’s toast. Hodgins is a lock. Yep. Fromm's a goner. Even IF they keep 3 QBs (possible, due to COVID), the third will be Davis Webb. Fromm would seem likely for the practice squad, and I sincerely doubt anyone claims him on waivers. Honestly, though, he's not even a lock for the practice squad. The only thing working in his favor is that Beane spent a 5th round pick on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said: Love the hang time on this ball. Arc is so much better than the one on the opposite of the field. On other posts who is QB #10 that threw the duck that was picked off. also I just don’t see Hodgins as a “lock”. He’s been in red contact Jersey a lot and I haven’t heard as many reports of him running with the 1s lately. Duke meanwhile I think have heard running with the 1s Looks like it got tipped. And I also don't think Hodgins is a lock and again can be snuck onto the PS. Edited September 1, 2020 by Doc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Looks like it got tipped. And I also don't think Hodgins is a lock and again cane be snuck onto the PS. Tip makes a ton of sense. agree on hodgins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, Logic said: Yep. Fromm's a goner. Even IF they keep 3 QBs (possible, due to COVID), the third will be Davis Webb. Fromm would seem likely for the practice squad, and I sincerely doubt anyone claims him on waivers. Honestly, though, he's not even a lock for the practice squad. The only thing working in his favor is that Beane spent a 5th round pick on him. Davis Webb from reports is very smart reading coverages and is very organized. He may just be a late bloomer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Davis Webb from reports is very smart reading coverages and is very organized. He may just be a late bloomer. Right on. Former 3rd rounder with a big arm who had a good college career. As coach McDermott says, he also has a great mind and temperament for the position, enough so that he told Webb that he can be a great coach himself one day. Pretty cool. Edited September 1, 2020 by Logic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: It’s not about “gadget plays” it’s about plays designed specifically for McKenzie and the fact that they move him around the formation to help identify coverages pre-snap and exploit matchup mismatches post-snap. He’s one of the few players on offense who has his own mini playbook. He’s not going anywhere. I think doing that with Diggs, Singletary, or Brown makes way more sense. Scheme some touches for the playmakers. Mckenzie will be hard pressed to find touches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 3 hours ago, eball said: A) He’s a draft pick in a ridiculously deep draft for WRs. B) He has exceptional size and hands. C) Unlike Duke, he is a prime candidate for poaching if he is on the PS. D) By all accounts he grasped the playbook quickly and does not look out of place. Yes, I think he’s a lock. Parring agrees on Hodgins and he’s been at every practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Parring agrees on Hodgins and he’s been at every practice I stopped reading where he said Trent Murphy gets cut. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, YattaOkasan said: Love the hang time on this ball. Arc is so much better than the one on the opposite of the field. On other posts who is QB #10 that threw the duck that was picked off. also I just don’t see Hodgins as a “lock”. He’s been in red contact Jersey a lot and I haven’t heard as many reports of him running with the 1s lately. Duke meanwhile I think have heard running with the 1s yeah that was a duck. My thoughts exactly Jake Fromm #10 Not much in the video to say why it was so horrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Parring agrees on Hodgins and he’s been at every practice Not saying he can’t make the team but far from a lock imo. Literal definition of fighting for a spot versus duke and McKenzie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: I stopped reading where he said Trent Murphy gets cut. Well... I mean.... at that point you had already scrolled more than half way. But good on you for taking a stand I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said: Not saying he can’t make the team but far from a lock imo. Literal definition of fighting for a spot versus duke and McKenzie. Hodgins is not fighting with Duke for a spot. The decision is whether they keep 7 and that means McKenzie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 18 minutes ago, eball said: Hodgins is not fighting with Duke for a spot. The decision is whether they keep 7 and that means McKenzie. Well with with McKenzie they can take 1/2 WR and 1/2 DB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirious Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, eball said: Hodgins is not fighting with Duke for a spot. The decision is whether they keep 7 and that means McKenzie. Agreed. I think the Jets are going to be poaching some teams' WR cuts. I'd much rather keep Hodgins and expose Duke Williams. I'd like to keep McKenzie but I think John Brown can also do that gadget stuff when called upon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 6 hours ago, Doc said: Again, considering I think they at-most keep 25 offensive players and that 9 OL are locks, I can't see 7 WRs (9 players remaining for 3 position groups) including Roberts kept. 3 QBs, 4 RBs, 4 TE, 7WR, 9 OL = 27 how do it trim it to 26 or 25 ? I don't think the team can carry 7 WRs. The options are * cut Fromm and hope he can be added to PS * cut Roberts and hope McKenzie and Gabe can do KR and PR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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