Chef Jim Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 18 hours ago, Tiberius said: BTW, don't call people that were enslaved, "slaves." They were enslaved people. How about undocumented workers? Hmmmmm no.... ? Stationary employees? Not quite right.... ? Southern servants? Closer...... ? Enslaved Democrats! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: So I take it you believe that the north should’ve let the south secede from the union so we wouldn’t have anything to do with them? This is silly talk. Please stop. What makes you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Just now, Tiberius said: What makes you say that? What makes YOU say any of this race bating nonsense you’re so desperate to keep alive? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: What makes YOU say any of this race bating nonsense you’re so desperate to keep alive? He has a clearly defined mission as to why he says what he says. Just don't make the mistake of asking him directly why he says it... ...it will just be more noise for the sake of keeping you talking to him in a conversation that never goes anywhere... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 45 minutes ago, Tiberius said: It’s the difference between who a person is, and what’s happened to a person. No it isn't. It is semantics. Both describe a condition the person is in. "Who" a person is can never be described by a label. That is the problem with people like you - constantly defining who people are by labels and superficial qualities. Just as long as they are the labels and qualities that suit you for the moment. Find me one person who has been, or is a slave that supports this and I will be more than happy to listen to him or her. If somebody works as an engineer, do we refer to that person as "employed as an an engineer," rather than just "an engineer," in order to distinguish what that person does as opposed to who that person is? No, we don't. You know why? Because there are no self-congratulatory feelings of moral and intellectual superiority that go along with that particular distinction. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 26 minutes ago, Tiberius said: What makes you say that? So some of your ancestors lived in the South during the Antebellum Era? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: No it isn't. It is semantics. Both describe a condition the person is in. "Who" a person is can never be described by a label. That is the problem with people like you - constantly defining who people are by labels and superficial qualities. Just as long as they are the labels and qualities that suit you for the moment. Find me one person who has been, or is a slave that supports this and I will be more than happy to listen to him or her. If somebody works as an engineer, do we refer to that person as "employed as an an engineer," rather than just "an engineer," in order to distinguish what that person does as opposed to who that person is? No, we don't. You know why? Because there are no self-congratulatory feelings of moral and intellectual superiority that go along with that particular distinction. Yes it is, labels matter. The person who is enslaved of course understands they can be free. We live in a country where public opinion matters, and if a person is considered a “slave” and that’s just who they are in their nature, it’s different than seeing them as being forcefully and brutally enslaved and it’s enforced by the law—a law Robert Lee fought to keep there is a difference. People not not wanting to see the difference just don’t care. Some obviously wish to “Make America Great Again” by looking to those dark days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Yes it is, labels matter. The person who is enslaved of course understands they can be free. We live in a country where public opinion matters, and if a person is considered a “slave” and that’s just who they are in their nature, it’s different than seeing them as being forcefully and brutally enslaved and it’s enforced by the law—a law Robert Lee fought to keep there is a difference. People not not wanting to see the difference just don’t care. Some obviously wish to “Make America Great Again” by looking to those dark days. You and your kind in a nutshell. Labels, labels, labels.... The term "slave" describes who someone is in their nature? There is nothing about that term that describes the "nature" of anyone. There is nothing about that word that describes "WHO" a person is. When someone is a slave or enslaved, they are someone being held against their will, as you say, "forcefully and brutally." Both words describe their condition. And of course, you finish your post with the obligatory liberal labeling: "People not not wanting to see the difference just don’t care." For people like you, labels do matter, but only for the purposes of making yourself feel better, smarter, and more enlighted, or for shaming and bullying others tha do not agree with you. Edited July 4, 2020 by billsfan1959 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Just now, billsfan1959 said: You and your kind in a nutshell. Labels, labels, labels.... The term "slave" describes who someone is in their nature? There is nothing about that term that describes the "nature" of anyone. And neither one of those words describe "WHO" a person is. When someone is a slave or enslaved, they are someone being held against their will, as you say, "forcefully and brutally." Both words describe their condition. And of course, you finish your post with the obligatory liberal labeling: "People not not wanting to see the difference just don’t care." For people like you, labels do matter, but only for the purposes of making yourself feel better, smarter, and more enlighted, or for shaming and bullying others tha do not agree with you. Yup, people thought blacks were suppose to be slaves, hencethe need to say they were enslaved, not slaves. Pretty simple. No need to get upset like you people just do over any little thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Yes it is, labels matter. The person who is enslaved of course understands they can be free. We live in a country where public opinion matters, and if a person is considered a “slave” and that’s just who they are in their nature, it’s different than seeing them as being forcefully and brutally enslaved and it’s enforced by the law—a law Robert Lee fought to keep there is a difference. People not not wanting to see the difference just don’t care. Some obviously wish to “Make America Great Again” by looking to those dark days. Exactly... a lot of people don't care about your PC social engineering garbage... they were slaves, call them whatever you like... but I say they were slaves... Live in the past if you like, but the future will simply leave you behind... ...and now, back on ignore for you... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Reality Check said: Exactly... a lot of people don't care about your PC social engineering garbage... they were slaves, call them whatever you like... but I say they were slaves... Live in the past if you like, but the future will simply leave you behind... ...and now, back on ignore for you... I thought I was on ignore? Make up your mind fool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Yup, people thought blacks were suppose to be slaves, hencethe need to say they were enslaved, not slaves. Pretty simple. No need to get upset like you people just do over any little thing. I'm not upset. I am merely pointing out how absolutey flawed your logic is. You like things to be simple. You like for one word labels to describe the complexities of a human being. It makes things easier for you. It doesn't change the fact that "slave" and "enslaved" are different without a distinction. They both, inevitably, refer to someone being held against their will. Neither term sheds any light on WHO a person is. From your previous post: "If a person is considered a “slave” and that’s just who they are in their nature." That just might be the dumbest thing I have ever seen you post. That is saying something as you are the one who once posted that "guns make suicides more lethal." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 The leftists need their own national anthem too... ..and let's not forget the Mexicans... ...this would be a great national anthem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 ...and last but not least... ...we need the transvestite national anthem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) Upon further review, I think paying to see the NFL is like paying your wife's boyfriend to hang out with you. Wearing a jersey is like putting his picture on the wall of your office. Buying a jersey is like asking his permission to jerk it while he plows your wife. Watching the game on antenna TV is kind of like watching through the peep hole and rubbing one out. Edited July 4, 2020 by Rob's House 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 21 hours ago, Wacka said: Poland, Hungary and Russia seem to be the most based countries around now. Who'd a thunk it? 1 hour ago, Rob's House said: Upon further review, I think paying to see the NFL is like paying your wife's boyfriend to hang out with you. Wearing a jersey is like putting his picture on the wall of your office. Buying a jersey is like asking his permission to ***** while he plows your wife. Watching the game on antenna TV is kind of like watching through the peep hole and rubbing one out. Kinda the way I feel now. I'm out of fantasy leagues. Won't be getting Sunday Ticket. I think if I were to watch a Bills game I will feel like I have to take a shower right after 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: Yes it is, labels matter. The person who is enslaved of course understands they can be free. We live in a country where public opinion matters, and if a person is considered a “slave” and that’s just who they are in their nature, it’s different than seeing them as being forcefully and brutally enslaved and it’s enforced by the law—a law Robert Lee fought to keep there is a difference. People not not wanting to see the difference just don’t care. Some obviously wish to “Make America Great Again” by looking to those dark days. Shite your half a slave now and you don't even realize it. Slave by taxation. Slave to usery in the form of interest rates . Slave to multi nationals. Ever notice that after you pay all your bills there is hardly anything left? That's not by accident. Think feminism was a way to free women? Think again. There was no way they were going to get away not being a tax donkeys or not paying interest on credit cards they got sucked into. That's 50 % more people to leech off of. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Shamar Walters and Maia Davis NBC NewsJuly 4, 2020 Shannon LaNier, a sixth great-grandson of Founding Father Thomas Jefferson and his slave, Sally Hemings, wore the same sort of outfit as his famous ancestor for a Smithsonian Magazine piece, "American Descendants." But LaNier, who is Black, said in the article in the magazine's July issue that he chose not to wear a wig. “I didn’t want to become Jefferson,” LaNier said. “My ancestor had his dreams — and now it’s up to all of us living in America today to make sure no one is excluded from the promise of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.” LaNier, a TV host in Houston who co-authored a book about his family, "Jefferson's Children: The Story of One American Family," also said of the third U.S. president, “He was a brilliant man who preached equality, but he didn’t practice it. He owned people. And now I’m here because of it.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chef Jim Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 So will they be doing two "Anthems" on opening day? One for the Blacks and one for the Whites? So we are now back to segregation? Good job NFL! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 It's funny, that for all the complaining by these SJW asshats about wanting unity, healing, equality, etc., they're readily jumping on the bandwagon of 'separate but equal'. We want unity, equality, fraternity, but also a separate black national anthem, and that no whites appropriate our separate and distinct culture! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, B-Man said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beast Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Personally, I'm now looking forward to the Jewish National Anthem being played before week 1 games. Edited July 8, 2020 by Beast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 SO, KAEPERNICK LIED: Back in our cheery, prelapsarian days—2016, to be exact—a young and photogenic NFL quarterback named Colin Kaepernick chose to express his patriotism by kneeling whenever the National Anthem was played before football games. He kneeled, you see, merely to protest police mistreatment of African Americans. And we knew that Kaepernick actually loved America because he told us so. “I’m not anti-America,” he said. “I love America…. I think having these conversations helps everybody have a better understanding of where everybody is coming from.” And everyone bought it. Or at least pretended to to gaslight the right. Read the whole thing. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JaCrispy Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 18 hours ago, Chef Jim said: So will they be doing two "Anthems" on opening day? One for the Blacks and one for the Whites? So we are now back to segregation? Good job NFL! Watch them punish people who don’t stand for the black anthem, but it’s ok to kneel for the national anthem... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 18 hours ago, Chef Jim said: So will they be doing two "Anthems" on opening day? One for the Blacks and one for the Whites? So we are now back to segregation? Good job NFL! That is what is so insane about the whole situation... there are those who are blind to the fact that they are promoting segregation... just like they use the N-word all the time, while no one else can use it... some want segregation as long as it is on the terms of black people promoting it... just like black people being killed is nothing to protest as long as a white person doesn't do it... this whole cycle is pretty sick, and I find it hard to believe that at this point in time, this is an authentic movement within the black community... there are some sick psychological games being played to divide us right now... and it is escalating by the week... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 17 hours ago, Beast said: Personally, I'm now looking forward to the Jewish National Anthem being played before week 1 games. You'll have a looooong wait. It has been open-season on Jews for years now, and it is only getting worse. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: You'll have a looooong wait. It has been open-season on Jews for years now, and it is only getting worse. .....yeah, persecuted for thousands of years throughout Arabia, Europe, Russia, and of course, culminating in a genocide by Desean Jackson's favorite guy to accidentally quote, Hitler. Edited July 8, 2020 by I am the egg man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Reality Check said: That is what is so insane about the whole situation... there are those who are blind to the fact that they are promoting segregation... just like they use the N-word all the time, while no one else can use it... some want segregation as long as it is on the terms of black people promoting it... just like black people being killed is nothing to protest as long as a white person doesn't do it... this whole cycle is pretty sick, and I find it hard to believe that at this point in time, this is an authentic movement within the black community... there are some sick psychological games being played to divide us right now... and it is escalating by the week... VICTOR DAVIS HANSON: YEAR ZERO. “Segregation will doom this revolution. It is the worst poison in a multiracial society. Yet it is the signature issue of Black Lives Matter — everything from separate safe spaces and theme houses based on skin color in universities to specials fees and rules for non-blacks.” Colin Kaepernick said it himself: His kneeling was meant to disrespect our nation itself. “Ex-quarterback Colin Kaepernick tweeted an Independence Day message reminding us that he always was a radical leftist, America-hating agitator. His national anthem stunt always was about deliberately dishonoring flag and country. Oh, and NFL superstar Drew Brees merits an apology from all those who criticized his original, thoughtful statement about why he would always stand for the anthem.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 JASON WHITLOCK: Black National Anthem Will Be The NFL’s “Jump The Shark Moment,” Black Lives Matters Is Marxist. Video at the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, B-Man said: JASON WHITLOCK: Black National Anthem Will Be The NFL’s “Jump The Shark Moment,” Black Lives Matters Is Marxist. Video at the link Do you any of the knee jerkers on here even care to know anything about the actual song itself? Even care for a single moment that it's a deeply Christian song that ties faith in God to love of country and forgiveness for the plight of slavery? That it is actually a song of healing and unity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Do you any of the knee jerkers on here even care to know anything about the actual song itself? Even care for a single moment that it's a deeply Christian song that ties faith in God to love of country and forgiveness for the plight of slavery? That it is actually a song of healing and unity? The lyrics were written by an ardent Republican. But, I do not think that any of that, the lyrics, who wrote them, etc. is the point. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 We need to do the Brown National Anthem too. You know.... Jose can you see.............. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 7 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: You'll have a looooong wait. It has been open-season on Jews for years now, and it is only getting worse. ....wait....you're doubting Barry's warm and fuzziness?......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 WHY ARE NFL PLAYERS SILENT ON DESEAN JACKSON? In early June, Drew Brees of the New Orleans Saints refused to take a knee because he didn’t want to insult the flag. Black NFL players lined up to denounce him. ‘Ignorant,’ said his black teammate Emmanuel Sanders. ‘Drew’s words were extremely painful to hear,’ another black Saint, Malcolm Jenkins said, ‘and I hope he rectifies them with real action.’ ‘If you don’t speak about racism, then you’re a part of the problem,’ said A.J. Brown of the Tennessee Titans. A month later, in early July, DeSean Jackson of the Philadelphia Eagles posted on Instagram an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory attributed to the noted sports fan Adolf Hitler. None of Jackson’s NFL peers, black or white, has said a word. Colin Kaepernick, who is usually so vocal about racism, has been uncharacteristically silent. The New York Times, usually so quick to denounce imaginary offenses against the speech-code mania of the day, said nothing at all. The leaders of Black Lives Matter didn’t order their minions to add this outburst of racism to their to-do list either. Related: Shannon Sharpe Doesn’t Condemn Louis Farrakhan In Discussion With Co-Host Skip Bayless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Racists gonna racist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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