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Does Diggs Count Against us for the Comp Formula?


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Yeah... Probably an idiotic question, since he wasn't technically a free agent, but I just want to make sure that Diggs won't count against us, in terms of comp picks.

 

Although, we picked up so much DL help that we probably won't get anything, anyhow... Typical... I guess I'm just asking to be better informed. Thanks! 

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43 minutes ago, Rock'em Sock'em said:

As a trade, Diggs does not count against any comp formula.  As we signed 7 FAs so far and lost 3, we will very likely not be getting any comp picks next year.

Agree. No chance for comp picks. Maybe next year if they let Dawkins walk combined with a few others like DiMarco. I believe Murphy and Star are still under contract for 2021. So cutting them won’t help either in terms of net loss of free agents

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Agreed with the second and third posters on comp pick implications of the Diggs trade (there are none).  The comp pick formula is not entirely transparent.   Buffalo's lower priced free agents might not count in the formula, but since Butler, Addison, and Jefferson were not cheap Buffalo is probably out of the running for comp picks in 2021.  Things could change for the 2022 draft as Buffalo will hopefully have some long term stability in more positions.  They may be signing fewer higher priced free agents.

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21 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

No, but we aren't getting Comp Picks with our signings IMO

Only one team in the AFC East deserves those, in light of their stellar history and upholding of standards of ’fair play’.  ?

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1 minute ago, HOUSE said:

Lets face it Stefon Diggs is an unknown here in Buffalo, no interviews with the local media. His only comment was "Lets Do it. VERY INSPIRING

Have to agree, not very process-like. I'd really like to see some enthusiasm. For now I'm choosing to attribute it to social media-distancing. ?

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I think the Patriots and Packers are winning the comp pick formula race so far. We aren’t getting one and I am good with that. 
 

Without the possibility of visits with draft picks, the draft this year will be more of a crapshoot than ever. So it seems like Beane went the proven commodity route with this year’s free agency. 

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19 minutes ago, TigerJ said:

Agreed with the second and third posters on comp pick implications of the Diggs trade (there are none).  The comp pick formula is not entirely transparent.   Buffalo's lower priced free agents might not count in the formula, but since Butler, Addison, and Jefferson were not cheap Buffalo is probably out of the running for comp picks in 2021.  Things could change for the 2022 draft as Buffalo will hopefully have some long term stability in more positions.  They may be signing fewer higher priced free agents.

 

Yes it is, Overthecap.com has been doing it for years predicting like 98% of comp picks every year. 

 

The pro bowls, games played, contract size only matters when net value and net loss are equal. Which determines whether you get a 7th rounder or not. 

 

I legit do this every year in explanation. The Bills have signed 7 Free Agents.....those 7 are 

 

Vernon Butler DT

Quinton Jefferson DT

Mario Addison DE

AJ Klein LB

Tyler Matakevich LB

Taiwan Jones( prob wobt qualify bc contract will be too small)

Josh Norman(was released and won’t count)

 

Bills have lost

 

Shaq Lawson DE

Jordan Phillips DT

Kevin Johnson CB

 

So as it stands right now the Bills are at a + 3 when it comes to additions, if Jones doesn’t qualify they are at a + 2. This means you get nothing because the only way to qualify for picks is to have equal or net loss. 

 

Lets see why why the Patriots get comp picks ever year and Bills fans think it’s a huge conspiracy. 

 

Patriots net loss is 4

 

The Patriots have lost

Tom Brady QB

Kyle Van Noy LB

Jamie Collins LB

Danny Shelton DT

Elandon Roberts LB

Nate Ebner ST

Ted Karras OL

 

Patriots have gained

Beau Allen 

Adrian Phillips

Dan Vitale

Damiere Byrd(won’t qualify due to contract size)

 

so 7 lost minus 3 gained equals -4, meaning yes folks the Patriots are in line for 4 compensatory picks next year

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58 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Agree. No chance for comp picks. Maybe next year if they let Dawkins walk combined with a few others like DiMarco. I believe Murphy and Star are still under contract for 2021. So cutting them won’t help either in terms of net loss of free agents

And why would you imagine they would contemplate letting Dawkins walk? Highly unlikely.

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1 hour ago, Rock'em Sock'em said:

As a trade, Diggs does not count against any comp formula.  As we signed 7 FAs so far and lost 3, we will very likely not be getting any comp picks next year.

That stat is a bit misleading - People like Josh Norman do not count against the formula - since they were released by their former team. Also, some Bills FAs can still be signed by other teams - like Kevin Johnson might end up on the Broncos. 

 

Stated differently, while it does not look likely we will get a comp pick, it is not yet impossible.

 

Edit: didnt see gonzo's post, which is much clearer and has more details.

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1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

Lets face it Stefon Diggs is an unknown here in Buffalo, no interviews with the local media. His only comment was "Lets Do it. VERY INSPIRING

I'm not sure if you've heard, but there's this whole virus thing going around that seems to be disrupting normal procedures.

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Comp picks are much more useful now that you can trade them, with how strong Beane has built the roster we are about to reap the rewards of the comp pick formula finally in a couple years. Years ago nobody even wanted a good portion of our free agents. Now we’re getting deep enough people sign our castoffs right away. Soon after we pay our core young guys we’ll have the tough decisions of letting really good players walk and we’ll see some picks coming our way. 

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