RochesterRob Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 12 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I kind of had that reaction. If we were gonna trade a first round pick, OMG I like Diggs but Hopkins >>> Diggs. Houston might not have wanted to deal Hopkins to us as a potential playoff opponent in the conference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 38 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Thielen is more consistent than Diggs. But talent wise? Diggs is better and frankly I have never thought it was all that close. Whereas Ireland doesn't even have a king. Well, not right now... Talent wise....who knows? Lots of guys have talent, yet they don't produce commensurate with that talent. In this case, that's why Theilen is the better WR of the 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 31 minutes ago, BillsFan3434 said: I love this trade just as much as the next guy because Diggs is a stud. I just hope Allen knows how to use him. Looking at the highlights from 2019 and a lot of those throws are pinpoint accurate from cousins. I saw some pinpoint ones but i saw a lot underthrown balls too. @GunnerBill reading Weos post and i was looking for drop % and couldnt find anything too helpful for receivers, but I did see he had 4 fumbles and notice some clips with him double handing the ball. I'm a bit concerned with that but kids a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill963 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 12 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I kind of had that reaction. If we were gonna trade a first round pick, OMG I like Diggs but Hopkins >>> Diggs. Is it bc Hopkins wants a new contract? A big one? 43 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: Out top 3 WR's look very nice for 2020. On top of seeing what Diggs can do in a Bills uniform, I'm also interested in the "trickle down effect" Diggs will have on Brown and Beasley. Day 1 of free agency was good for the Bills, now I'm hoping Beane adds another weapon on offense (maybe a TE?) Hooper and a big WR in the 2nd rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, BuffaloBill963 said: Is it bc Hopkins wants a new contract? A big one? I'm sure that's part, but my understanding is Diggs wants that too. It's still highway robbery to get Hopkins for what Zona paid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill963 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'm sure that's part, but my understanding is Diggs wants that too. It's still highway robbery. Houston fans going to revolt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said: I saw some pinpoint ones but i saw a lot underthrown balls too. @GunnerBill reading Weos post and i was looking for drop % and couldnt find anything too helpful for receivers, but I did see he had 4 fumbles and notice some clips with him double handing the ball. I'm a bit concerned with that but kids a stud. Advanced rushing and receiving with drop % for Diggs here: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DiggSt00.htm Player advanced receiving (with drop %) here: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2019/receiving_advanced.htm 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Guy on the Bench Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 39 minutes ago, BillsFan3434 said: I love this trade just as much as the next guy because Diggs is a stud. I just hope Allen knows how to use him. Looking at the highlights from 2019 and a lot of those throws are pinpoint accurate from cousins. True, I did notice how accurate some of those throws were. But a lot of them also seemed to take several weeks to get there. Josh can throw some ropes to Diggs while he's still wide open before the DB can close again, unlike Cousins. And Diggs has great, snatchy hands, so he should handle those JA fastballs no problem. Hopefully Josh has been working on that deep ball too, because Smoke and Diggs are going to get each other open deep regularly. We'll see. Fun times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, BuffaloBill963 said: Houston fans going to revolt I'm no where near a Houston fan, and believe me I'm revolted! I feel Deshaun Watson should be placed under observation, unless he actually had some kind of falling out with Nuk that wasn't reported. The only thing saving me from open rebellion is @JoPoy88 and others who have pointed out that an in-conference trade for Nuk was NOT going down. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 44 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Sure beats the hell outta Deonte Thompson, Zay Jones & Kelvin Benjamin! Amen to that! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) Buscaglia: The stats are there, as is the remarkable talent he exudes on the field even on plays where he isn’t directly involved. I’m only a game and a half into the film of his 2019 season and I’ve already seen Diggs make defenders look silly several times with his setup, his speed into cuts and his ability to stop on a dime and gain separation. And separation is the name of Diggs’ game here. The Bills won’t have to worry as much about tight throwing windows for Allen over the next few years because Diggs creates a cushion against defenders. I think the underrated part of the Diggs deal is what this does for John Brown. Brown is a great route runner himself and has the ability to win in several different ways; now, without the focus of the defense solely on him, he should thrive next to Diggs. The way these two receivers win on their routes fits Allen’s skill set. Instead of a big receiver, what the Bills really needed is someone who can separate, win in the intermediate areas and make the tough catches with defenders draped over him. Diggs’ ability to go over the top is a bonus. Edited March 17, 2020 by Reed83HOF 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: The other math is to the Hopkins trade. Diggs' equivalent is Texans #2 pick plus the last pick in the 2nd round. Is David Johnson worth that difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill963 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) Well now we have a guy who can do this. Hopefully it’ll rub off on John Brown. 56 minutes ago, Lurker said: Well, I look at it as the entire nation is conditioned to think "the Bills never win anything," so the Vikings must have won that trade. But we got the best player in the deal and the Vikes got potential. It remains to be seen how well that potential plays out for them... Picks are picks. We have proven young talent in prime now. I couldn’t care less about analysis on this trade. We needed bonafide top talent and we got it. We can still grab another awesome maybe bigger WR in the deepest WR draft ever Edited March 17, 2020 by BuffaloBill963 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhatharry Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, BuffaloBill963 said: Well now we have a guy who can do this. Hopefully it’ll rub off on John Brown. Picks are picks. We have proven young talent in prime now. I couldn’t care less about analysis on this trade. We needed bonafide top talent and we got it. We can still grab another awesome maybe bigger WR in the deepest WR draft ever I wouldn't put hopes up for a WR being awesome in rounds 2-3. The deepest potential at WR but lots will not work out just the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 28 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Well, not right now... Talent wise....who knows? Lots of guys have talent, yet they don't produce commensurate with that talent. In this case, that's why Theilen is the better WR of the 2. I mean he isn't. But okay. 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: Jerry... Seriously... LAY OFF THE HAPPY DRUGS! Haven't you heard they can be addictive? And make you happy? You wouldn't want to be happy, now, would you Jerry? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I mean he isn't. But okay. I'm just going on what they have done on the same team. I have nothing else to base it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 3 hours ago, LabattBlue said: Diggs wasn’t happy in Minny because he didn’t get the ball enough. I can’t imagine he is going to be any happier here. You also couldn't imagine Brady leaving NE, and told us so a dozen times. So you can see why we won't be too worried that it's tough for you to picture this being a success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I don't know if anyone else posted this WGR Howard and Jeremy interview with a former WGR host who now works in Minnesota. He gave a glowing commentary about Diggs's talent and production. He made the observation that Diggs is a high intensity player and personality. This link is 15 min. If someone else posted this link I apologize for the redundancy. https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/03-17-matthew-coller-from-skor-north-in-minnesota-on-stefon-diggs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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