ngbills Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Assuming you keep the 16 game schedule here is my proposal: Each conference team plays every conference team once. That equals 15 of the 16 games. The 16th game can be multiple formats: 1) Chose prior to the season based on finish the prior year and played vs an NFL team. 2) Flex game played as the last game of the year and can be based on current record. Best record plays worst record - 1 plays 16 down to 8 plays 9. Benefits I see is the removes the SOS aspect and luck of playing certain teams as all teams basically play all the same teams. Think it will help with the week 16 play to make the playoffs scenarios as the bubble teams would be the 4-10 ranked teams and may have more to play for. Super bowl could likely be two teams that have not seen each other. Downside is you lose some of the in division rivalry and tradition. Travel to away games may be less exciting. Thoughts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 the league wants home-and-away division rivalries, and interconference games as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon127 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Way to simple and unrealistic. Somebody suggested the best way to handle the 17th game, Is to play one team from the inter-conference division you played last year. Based on divisional standings. So if it went into effect this year (which it wont) we would play the cowboys again. I like this better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Just have everyone play the Dolphins again... 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 That would pretty much eliminate conference to conference games. I don't think anyone would want that. The Bills would basically have to cycle through the NFC every 16 years. That would suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 The only good that would come of that would be we couldnt damage our playoff standings with so many (bad) wins against the NFC. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Has there been anything official about the 17th game being at a neutral field? I have assumed it but I think the NFL might mess that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahbonas Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Play your division twice as we do now = 6 games + play 11 of the 12 other AFC teams = 17 games Keeps schedules similar - stops the ridiculous easy/hard schedule - creates a true AFC Champion I have no desire to play NFC teams at the cost of creating major differences in strength of schedules like we have now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 There's nothing wrong with inter-conference games as they are IMO. If anything I like them more if the league goes to 17 games since they'll have less relative impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, BuffBillsForLife said: There's nothing wrong with inter-conference games as they are IMO. If anything I like them more if the league goes to 17 games since they'll have less relative impact. i like it better when the NFC division the Bills play is garbage, which on paper it won't be next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 hours ago, wagon127 said: Way to simple and unrealistic. Somebody suggested the best way to handle the 17th game, Is to play one team from the inter-conference division you played last year. Based on divisional standings. So if it went into effect this year (which it wont) we would play the cowboys again. I like this better. I would do the following: Same as current with the extra game being playing a second game against the same place finisher from the intra conference division we're already playing. On this year's schedule we'd play the Broncos a second time with it being at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, jahbonas said: Play your division twice as we do now = 6 games + play 11 of the 12 other AFC teams = 17 games Keeps schedules similar - stops the ridiculous easy/hard schedule - creates a true AFC Champion I have no desire to play NFC teams at the cost of creating major differences in strength of schedules like we have now I can go for this. Similar thinking as my original point. Lets eliminate the ridiculous easy vs hard schedule debate. Why do teams play completely different teams yet are compared to the same standings...makes no sense. As you state this way or my original suggestion would create a legit AFC champ bc all are on a more level playing field in terms of competition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) Rivalry's generate interest and money, this idea while balancing strength of schedule will NEVER happen. It would suck big time. Edited February 21, 2020 by mattynh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, mattynh said: Rivalry's generate interest and money, this idea while balancing strength of schedule will NEVER happen. It would suck big time. What rivalries are you speaking off? The divisional rivalries? I am not aware of any AFC vs NFC rivalries that would be missed. Maybe some big games based on teams being good playing each other but not an ongoing rivalry. But that is what the super bowl would be for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, ngbills said: What rivalries are you speaking off? The divisional rivalries? I am not aware of any AFC vs NFC rivalries that would be missed. Maybe some big games based on teams being good playing each other but not an ongoing rivalry. But that is what the super bowl would be for. You dont know of any rivalries in the NFL? You dont know if they are divisional or cross conference? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 not sure why the suddenly sacrosanct conference segregation has arisen never happening, the AFC and NFC will always square off in the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 For the 17th games, make them all inter conference games. On even years, the AFC are all home teams, and on odd years, the NFC are all home teams. That way there’s no advantage within the conferences for home/away on that extra game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, WotAGuy said: For the 17th games, make them all inter conference games. On even years, the AFC are all home teams, and on odd years, the NFC are all home teams. That way there’s no advantage within the conferences for home/away on that extra game. cannot afford to get away from those 4 cakewalks against the Jets and Fish, what if they turned into 4 games against real teams? Edited February 21, 2020 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Just now, row_33 said: cannot afford to get away from those 4 cakewalks against the Jets and Fish, what if they turned into 4 games against real teams? This is just for the 17th game. The schedule layout remains as is for the other 16 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 34 minutes ago, mattynh said: You dont know of any rivalries in the NFL? You dont know if they are divisional or cross conference? Cross conference rivalries? None come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 10 hours ago, ngbills said: Cross conference rivalries? None come to mind. it seems like you don’t understand the importance rivalries play in the NFL. The nfl is interested in maximizing revenues, not making the product bland and the schedule more “fair” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 A little off topic, but I think they should (eventually): Expand rosters to 60 Knock the preseason down to 2 games Expand the regular season to 18 No player can play more than 16 reg season games (player safety stuff) 7 playoff teams from each conference 1 bye for top seed 18 reg season games: 6 division games 4 rotating AFC division 4 rotating NFC division 2 same prior year finish in AFC 2 same prior year finish in NFC (based on last two NFC divisions played) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 16 hours ago, wagon127 said: Way to simple and unrealistic. Somebody suggested the best way to handle the 17th game, Is to play one team from the inter-conference division you played last year. Based on divisional standings. So if it went into effect this year (which it wont) we would play the cowboys again. I like this better. I like that. You could also choose another division in the NFC and have a set schedule every year (we'd play the 2nd place NFC North team next year (Vikings). That way you avoid playing the same team two years in a row. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Is there an echo in here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, ngbills said: Assuming you keep the 16 game schedule here is my proposal: Each conference team plays every conference team once. That equals 15 of the 16 games. The 16th game can be multiple formats: 1) Chose prior to the season based on finish the prior year and played vs an NFL team. 2) Flex game played as the last game of the year and can be based on current record. Best record plays worst record - 1 plays 16 down to 8 plays 9. Benefits I see is the removes the SOS aspect and luck of playing certain teams as all teams basically play all the same teams. Think it will help with the week 16 play to make the playoffs scenarios as the bubble teams would be the 4-10 ranked teams and may have more to play for. Super bowl could likely be two teams that have not seen each other. Downside is you lose some of the in division rivalry and tradition. Travel to away games may be less exciting. Thoughts I have always thought that they should make the division opponents stay the same. You play them twice but instead of playing one whole other division in your conference, each team depending on where they finish would play either the top two teams or bottom two teams in each of the other divisions. So, for instance, the Bills finished 2nd in the AFC East so they would play the top two teams in each of the North, South and West Divisions. The bottom two teams like the Jets and Dolphins would play the bottom two teams in each of the North South and West divisions. As far as NFC opponents, instead of playing one whole NFC division like they do now, do pretty much the same thing as with the AFC conference. Only instead of the top two teams in each division of the NFC, each team would just play the same place finisher in each NFC division. So, the Bills being in 2nd place in the AFC East eould play the 2nd place Finisher in each of the NFC East, North, South and West. This would make the schedule much more interesting and more even in my opinion Edited February 22, 2020 by Buffalo03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 19 hours ago, mattynh said: it seems like you don’t understand the importance rivalries play in the NFL. The nfl is interested in maximizing revenues, not making the product bland and the schedule more “fair” Ok - who are the Bills rivals? Tell me one NFC rival the Bills have? Tell me any NFC v AFC rivals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 8 hours ago, ngbills said: Ok - who are the Bills rivals? Tell me one NFC rival the Bills have? Tell me any NFC v AFC rivals? why are you talking about NFC vs AFC when it comes to rivalries? It sounds like you dont really watch the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 2:31 PM, mattynh said: Rivalry's generate interest and money, this idea while balancing strength of schedule will NEVER happen. It would suck big time. On 2/21/2020 at 3:03 PM, mattynh said: You dont know of any rivalries in the NFL? You dont know if they are divisional or cross conference? On 2/22/2020 at 2:13 AM, mattynh said: it seems like you don’t understand the importance rivalries play in the NFL. The nfl is interested in maximizing revenues, not making the product bland and the schedule more “fair” On 2/23/2020 at 6:13 AM, mattynh said: why are you talking about NFC vs AFC when it comes to rivalries? It sounds like you dont really watch the NFL Huh? Confusion. The only games lost in this idea are the NFC vs AFC games. So I asked what big rivalries of NFC vs AFC teams would be lost? I think you have more AFC vs AFC rivalries and under my idea the NFL would actually have those teams play more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I like having the variety of playing four different NFC teams every year. Especially as someone who no longer lives in Buffalo, it would suck to know that the Bills are only going to play in a given NFC stadium once every 30 years (each NFC team is played once every 15 years, and assuming home field is alternated). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 9 hours ago, ngbills said: Huh? Confusion. The only games lost in this idea are the NFC vs AFC games. So I asked what big rivalries of NFC vs AFC teams would be lost? I think you have more AFC vs AFC rivalries and under my idea the NFL would actually have those teams play more often. The divisional rivalries with two games per year is really important. Going to one game would suck. I know you like your idea but it would limit a lot of big matchups based on current divisional rivalries. I assume you think nothing is lost because there would be one game but you are incorrect. There are not a lot of afc nfc rivalries because teams only play once every four years. We seem to agree there. Don’t take it so personal that someone does not like your idea. If it is so great they would probably do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon127 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 On 2/22/2020 at 12:46 PM, Buffalo03 said: I have always thought that they should make the division opponents stay the same. You play them twice but instead of playing one whole other division in your conference, each team depending on where they finish would play either the top two teams or bottom two teams in each of the other divisions. So, for instance, the Bills finished 2nd in the AFC East so they would play the top two teams in each of the North, South and West Divisions. The bottom two teams like the Jets and Dolphins would play the bottom two teams in each of the North South and West divisions. As far as NFC opponents, instead of playing one whole NFC division like they do now, do pretty much the same thing as with the AFC conference. Only instead of the top two teams in each division of the NFC, each team would just play the same place finisher in each NFC division. So, the Bills being in 2nd place in the AFC East eould play the 2nd place Finisher in each of the NFC East, North, South and West. This would make the schedule much more interesting and more even in my opinion But then, you may never see the bills play certain teams for even longer then they have in between now. Its nice to know, the cowboys are coming to Buffalo to play the bills in 2023. I think they used to do your idea before, and there were some teams that never traveled to certain cities for decades. The current rotation is simple and organized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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