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1 hour ago, LSHMEAB said:

The single greatest individual play made during the drought era was Terrence McGee's 300 yard KO return against New Orleans, which resulted in zero points. Perhaps a metaphor for those 17 years of futility.

That was a remarkable play. McGee was electric. Probably wouldn't be my #1, but he was fun to watch. 

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12 hours ago, Motorin' said:

Could have probably avoided a draught all together if they had paid Peters. 

 

 

A Left Tackle would have avoided the drought??

 

WTF??

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17 minutes ago, KzooMike said:

That was a remarkable play. McGee was electric. Probably wouldn't be my #1, but he was fun to watch. 

The interesting thing about McGee as a return man was that he wasn't particularly fast. Just had such a natural feel for how the return was transpiring.

 

Gotta give a lot of credit to Bobby April who had an amazing return scheme at the time.

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12 hours ago, Logic said:

Give me Aaron Schobel in a McDermott defense, please. Edge problem solved. 


This ^^^^ for the win.

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A little reminder about Jason Peters for those too young to remember.

 

In 2004 during the draft there was this huge TE out of Arkansas I wanted Buffalo to draft. The guy was a monster. I was on the old BB Message board and loved draft day there. There was a fellow BBMB poster named WYO who was a very smart Bills fan from Wyoming. She and I became friends during that draft. We both wanted Buffalo to draft this crazy sized athletic TE named Jason Peters from Arkansas. We figured at worst he could be an Eric Green type TE, or could be converted to OL since Jim (Mouse) McNally was the OL coach. Each round passed and Jason Peters went undrafted when all 32 teams passed on him.

 

After round 7 we both were amazed Jason Peters had gone undrafted. Shortly after we found out the Bills had won the undrafted tender for Jason Peters. We were both ecstatic!.

 

In 2004 Jason Peters signed with the Buffalo Bills as an undrafted free agent TE. He was not an OT at that time. He was an overweight but athletic TE and a poor OL. Every team had passed on him through 7 rounds of the draft, and he went unclaimed until Buffalo saw his potential and brought him in. He was undistinguished throughout the pre-season. Buffalo even cut him after the 2004 pre-season. Once again all 32 teams in the NFL did not claim him after cuts. Buffalo resigned him and kept teaching him the NFL game as an OT by Mouse. Buffalo put him in on ST as a wedge blocker from 2004-2005.

 

By 2006 Mike Williams was considered a bust and Jason Peters, coached up by McNally, stepped in at RT. Peters excelled at RT. Ralph Wilson rewarded Jason Peters immediately with a 5 yr 15 million dollar contract before his UDFA contract was due. This was solid money for an OL in 2006. Not bad at all, from undrafted free agent on the PS, to being cut, to being resigned, to a starting RT on a new multi year, multi million dollar contract in 2 years. Even Ralph ponied up for the big man after only one year starting at RT.

 

Jason Peters should have been under contract by Buffalo until 2011. He was paid an OT starting salary in 2006 terms. In 2007 Peters was moved to LT. He excelled there as well garnering his first Pro Bowl Selection.

 

In 2008, less than 2 years after signing an extension, he held out. Peters wanted 8-12 million a year in line with 5 time Pro Bowler OT Walter Jones. (Peters was making 5 million a year) He held out in all of training camp, only returning in time for the season. He dogged it in 2008 allowing 11.5 sacks which was tied for worst among starting left tackles. Knowing another potential hold out was going to happen, and the horrible performance he put in in 2008 Buffalo traded the disappointing but capable LT for a 2nd (C, Eric Wood), 4th (TE, Shawn Nelson), and conditional pick 6th 2010 (LB, Danny Batten).

 

Yes, Jason Peters was a generational LT.

 

But:

He went undrafted as an oversized TE.

 

He was cut as a UDFA and no other NFL team signed him.

 

Buffalo brought him in again and he played ST for 2 years while Mouse coached him up. Look up Coach McNally btw. Mouse was no bum.

 

When big Mike Williams proved to be a bust at LT and RT, Jason Peters stepped in at an RT position and did well.

 

Ralph extended him to the tune of 5 million dollars a year in 2006 dollars after 1 year at RT. That was insane RT money in 2006.

 

He did well and took over a LT position. He excelled as LT for one year, and then held out. In year two as a LT he gave up 11.5 sacks while dogging it, but demanded top dollar. All of this less than 2 yrs after signing a 5 yr, 15 million dollar contract.

 

Buffalo saw his potential. McNally coached him up, he got an opportunity in Buffalo to go from undrafted TE to RT to LT. He even got paid early and high for his position, but was greedy. He treated the people that coached him up, paid him early, and gave him a chance to excel like garbage, and left as soon as he could.

 

F**k Jason Peters.

 

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Then Andy Reid fleeced us in a trade (not the first time) and said he was the best offensive tackle in football after studying film on him despite the 11.5 sacks given up the year before.  I swear the next time Andy Reid offers us a trade for a player he covets we take or keep that player no matter what.

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Marshawn Lynch and Terrel Owens are Hall of Famers offensive stars...JP Losman could have been a star QB if Katrina did not drown so many pals of his to death....off field tragedies don't get worse than his

....CJ SPILLER ran punts and kick offs for touchdowns....many great BILLs were traded or released during the drought caused by illegal referee calls 2 decades running

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Did Peerless Price ever go to the playoffs with the Bills? because if we are going by their best years with Buffalo that guy had a couple really nice years with us.

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Freddy is the obvious and only choice.

 

Position of need.

 

At least a borderline Pro Bowler in his prime.

 

Fantastic complement to the other player at his position.

 

Team leader.

 

Freddy. Period.

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25 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Then Andy Reid fleeced us in a trade (not the first time) and said he was the best offensive tackle in football after studying film on him despite the 11.5 sacks given up the year before.  I swear the next time Andy Reid offers us a trade for a player he covets we take or keep that player no matter what.

 

Look above this post

 

As Paul Harvey would say..... 'And that is the rest of the story'

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Best answers would be Lee Evans, Schobel, or Mario
 

Biggest need is at WR and Edge.  Of those 3, I think I would go Lee Evans.  He I think would have an even better career playing with Allen.  Him and Smoke would be really hard to cover.

 

 

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16 hours ago, whatdrought said:

 

The Houston game where he and Losman connected on two 60+ td passes was pretty. Him across from Brown would be difficult to defend. 


*two 83 yard TD passes(his number)

2 hours ago, 1915 Buffalo Bill Cody fan said:

Was Sammy Watkins traded before losing to Malone in the playoffs?  Look who BILLs are wearing SuperBowl rings after traded away ??? LYNCH GILMORE WATKINS who are the others ???

Yes. Sammy was traded at the beginning of that season. 

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Lee  Evans mostly because he fits a need at WR. But Mario Williams was pretty dominant here for a couple years.

 

Terrance McGee would be awesome. He was a really good corner and a pro bowl level returner as well.

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Brian Moorman.  Since we don't have a QB, field position is critical.

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13 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

A Left Tackle would have avoided the drought??

 

WTF??

Yes, if he would’ve jumped up and down on Ralph’s head.

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1 hour ago, krf139 said:

Brian Moorman.  Since we don't have a QB, field position is critical.

You snuck that jab in there, right in the depths of the off-season.


Well done!

 

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On 2/20/2020 at 10:10 AM, Logic said:

Give me Aaron Schobel in a McDermott defense, please. Edge problem solved. 

This all day

 

moulds would be right behind him

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On 2/20/2020 at 10:11 AM, LeGOATski said:

Terrell Owens

Only if  can get the in his prime TO not the one w the Bills

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14 hours ago, RocCityRoller said:

In 2008, less than 2 years after signing an extension, he held out. Peters wanted 8-12 million a year in line with 5 time Pro Bowler OT Walter Jones. (Peters was making 5 million a year) He held out in all of training camp, only returning in time for the season. He dogged it in 2008 allowing 11.5 sacks which was tied for worst among starting left tackles. Knowing another potential hold out was going to happen, and the horrible performance he put in in 2008 Buffalo traded the disappointing but capable LT for a 2nd (C, Eric Wood), 4th (TE, Shawn Nelson), and conditional pick 6th 2010 (LB, Danny Batten).

Great recap but Peters was traded for a first round pick (Eric Wood was a first round pick).

 

To answer the question of this thread: I would pick Lee Evans! He was great and could of been even better with the right QB. 

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