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Hello everyone, and I had the opportunity to visit Cassandra at Buffalo Children's today. As mentioned she is off the Ecmo machine and doing most of the work. It will take some time for her to heal. S

I have stayed away from this forum for a long time, and most know my politics...tonight was important for our country. Trump was up to it so far. Fantastic job.     

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2 hours ago, aristocrat said:

 

 

 

Was always complete and total B.S.

 

I definitely believe the only thing that may work to limit spread is limiting capacity and preventing people from getting together.  No question.  It's awful policy on anything other then a local level watching for....you know the things that matter like hospitalizations and ICU capacity.  What we were told from the beginning.  You know metrics that didn't include complete eradication of aresolized virus your mask are doing nothing to MAY HELP in your hilarious "Swiss cheese" defense strategy.  You shelter in place let everyone else live.  Hospitalizations become a crisis let us know thanks.  

 

But since we couldn't shelter in place for long (long is a relative term many are good with this meaning indefinitely)....gotta do something or this country won't fully shelter in place and obey that will take a gradual few years of compliance to achieve that but we'll get there!!   

 

So the following reasons were why masks were "necessary" in order to allow the folks who won't stand for shelter in place nonsense longer then 15 minutes let alone 15 days..

 

1. We need to do something 

2. In order to get people out spending money, they will feel safer in masks and if you're in one they will gladly take the risk of a lifetime and go shop at Target

3. If you work at Target and you get Covid.  Target might get sued.  "What did you do to keep your employees safe!?"  Well we deep cleaned for no reason and made people wear masks so not our fault.  

 

 

Dumbest health policy in human history.  

 

Will never ever be admitted to in this decade.  

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Oregon seeks to keep COVID mask mandate ‘indefinitely’

 

While some states are reopening businesses or dropping mask mandates altogether, Oregon is bucking the trend — floating an idea to require masks and social distancing indefinitely.

 

One of the state’s top health officials wants to require masks and social distancing in all businesses indefinitely.

 

https://nypost.com/2021/04/17/oregon-seeks-to-keep-covid-mask-mandate-indefinitely?utm_source=gmail&utm_campaign=android_nyp

 

Opponents also are upset government officials won’t say how low Oregon’s COVID-19 case numbers must go, or how many people would have to be vaccinated, to get the requirements lifted in a state that’s already had some of the nation’s strictest safety measures.

 

“When will masks be unnecessary? What scientific studies do these mandates rely on, particularly now that the vaccine is days away from being available to everyone?” said state Sen. Kim Thatcher, a Republican from Keizer, near the state’s capital. “Businesses have had to play ‘mask cop’ for the better part of a year now. They deserve some certainty on when they will no longer be threatened with fines.”

 

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-oregon-6f7f919d27644d02c330da5a8648af95

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Nope.

 

Just embarrassed to be living in a country led by beta males and irrational narcissistic lunatics.  

 

You know why the minute Trump addressed the nation in March of 2020 and I knew after that address we were all completely f...ed?

 

It wasn't because I knew the virus was the problem.  

 

We are.  And we ceded handling that problem over to the government and let fear.....the same fear that gives students a snow day when we get a flurry of 1/2 inch of snow in most of the South.....those people making those decisions to "keep you safe" were now being given complete control over your life you just don't realize it yet.....over a virus they will never stop using to increase their control.    

 

 

What do you mean Big Blitz?  Why do you think this way about our society?

 

Here is why:

 

 

CPSC warns owners of Peloton Tread+ with small kids, pets to stop using treadmill

 

Brett Molina, USA TODAY

 

The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission is warning owners of the Peloton Tread+ with small children or pets to stop using the treadmill after the fitness company reported a child's death last month linked to the product.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2021/04/17/serious-risks-cpsc-warns-pelton-tread-danger-after-childs-death/7267545002/

 

 

This country as you knew is gone.  

The country in your paranoia .....un pllug dude and go play outside

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4 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Was always complete and total B.S.

 

I definitely believe the only thing that may work to limit spread is limiting capacity and preventing people from getting together.  No question.  It's awful policy on anything other then a local level watching for....you know the things that matter like hospitalizations and ICU capacity.  What we were told from the beginning.  You know metrics that didn't include complete eradication of aresolized virus your mask are doing nothing to MAY HELP in your hilarious "Swiss cheese" defense strategy.  You shelter in place let everyone else live.  Hospitalizations become a crisis let us know thanks.  

 

But since we couldn't shelter in place for long (long is a relative term many are good with this meaning indefinitely)....gotta do something or this country won't fully shelter in place and obey that will take a gradual few years of compliance to achieve that but we'll get there!!   

 

So the following reasons were why masks were "necessary" in order to allow the folks who won't stand for shelter in place nonsense longer then 15 minutes let alone 15 days..

 

1. We need to do something 

2. In order to get people out spending money, they will feel safer in masks and if you're in one they will gladly take the risk of a lifetime and go shop at Target

3. If you work at Target and you get Covid.  Target might get sued.  "What did you do to keep your employees safe!?"  Well we deep cleaned for no reason and made people wear masks so not our fault.  

 

 

Dumbest health policy in human history.  

 

Will never ever be admitted to in this decade.  

I could post rebuttals as well as do my own to this article.  It ignores the fact that the virus is spread primarily by droplets and aerosols and not as free virus.  It ignores that the studies of hypoxia involve only N95 masks.  And so on.  But you have made it abundantly clear you don’t care about actual science and want to wallow in self-pity.

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8 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Was always complete and total B.S.

 

I definitely believe the only thing that may work to limit spread is limiting capacity and preventing people from getting together.  No question.  It's awful policy on anything other then a local level watching for....you know the things that matter like hospitalizations and ICU capacity.  What we were told from the beginning.  You know metrics that didn't include complete eradication of aresolized virus your mask are doing nothing to MAY HELP in your hilarious "Swiss cheese" defense strategy.  You shelter in place let everyone else live.  Hospitalizations become a crisis let us know thanks.  

 

But since we couldn't shelter in place for long (long is a relative term many are good with this meaning indefinitely)....gotta do something or this country won't fully shelter in place and obey that will take a gradual few years of compliance to achieve that but we'll get there!!   

 

So the following reasons were why masks were "necessary" in order to allow the folks who won't stand for shelter in place nonsense longer then 15 minutes let alone 15 days..

 

1. We need to do something 

2. In order to get people out spending money, they will feel safer in masks and if you're in one they will gladly take the risk of a lifetime and go shop at Target

3. If you work at Target and you get Covid.  Target might get sued.  "What did you do to keep your employees safe!?"  Well we deep cleaned for no reason and made people wear masks so not our fault.  

 

 

Dumbest health policy in human history.  

 

Will never ever be admitted to in this decade.  

 

Anecdote time.

 

I cure my own sausages.  I spray them with a bacteria.  It's a "good" bacteria designed to protect the sausages from "bad" bacteria.  That's the white mold you see on certain cured meat.  When they are fully cured the mold his too much so I wipe it off.  I noticed I was getting congested after doing that.  Mold in your lungs is very scary.  So 2020 rolls around and I have all sorts of masks to use.  I had two batches done over two weekends.  I wear my cheap blue "paper" mask one week.  Chest is congested.  Week two I switch to my dense cloth mask.  Guess what?  Chest was congested. So my little experiment shows masks may not work?  

3 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

I could post rebuttals as well as do my own to this article.  It ignores the fact that the virus is spread primarily by droplets and aerosols and not as free virus.  It ignores that the studies of hypoxia involve only N95 masks.  And so on.  But you have made it abundantly clear you don’t care about actual science and want to wallow in self-pity.

 

Explain my story.  

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Attention Mark Poloncarz and the rest of low info America:

 

 

3 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

I could post rebuttals as well as do my own to this article.  It ignores the fact that the virus is spread primarily by droplets and aerosols and not as free virus.  It ignores that the studies of hypoxia involve only N95 masks.  And so on.  But you have made it abundantly clear you don’t care about actual science and want to wallow in self-pity.

 

 

Nah just see the post above I follow data and logic not emotions.  

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8 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Attention Mark Poloncarz and the rest of low info America:

 

 

 

 

Nah just see the post above I follow data and logic not emotions.  

 

1918.  Spanish Flu just "went away" due to herd immunity.  Everyone either got it or died from it.  We are not achieving herd immunity.   I predict by fall it will essentially be gone.  "Everyone" will have gotten Covid or been vaccinated. 

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The "This will all be over by September of 2020 AND well, oops, ok we meant will all be over by September of 2021" crowd is awfully quiet.  

 

Must be really enjoying that 25% capacity life.  

 

 

It will unfortunately sink in for them by September of 2024 that they were complicit in the insurrection that officially ended life as they knew it.  

 

The goal posts will have moved so far they're going to be defending why social credit scores like they have in China are fine, that Covid-22 has long term effects we don't understand, and it's just a mask it's no big deal to have to wear it for the next decade.  It's a small sacrifice for the greater good.  

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8 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

 

1918.  Spanish Flu just "went away" due to herd immunity.  Everyone either got it or died from it.  We are not achieving herd immunity.   I predict by fall it will essentially be gone.  "Everyone" will have gotten Covid or been vaccinated. 

 

You can keep saying it but H1N1 never went away and SARS-Cov-2 is still different, just like I pointed out before. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Sundancer said:

 

You can keep saying it but H1N1 never went away and SARS-Cov-2 is still different, just like I pointed out before. 

 

 


I’m not referring to specific virus. Why did the Spanish flu cases drop dramatically (better)?

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22 hours ago, Unforgiven said:

Chinese Communist Party Constructing Nearly 100 More Bio Labs Like Wuhan Institute Of Virology.

 

https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/ccp-constructing-100-more-wuhan-biolabs/

That's real end of times ***** right there. They will undoubtedly screw up again. I've said in a previous post that all this SARS stuff is lab accidents. They never found definitive proof of SARS in the wild not to mention SARS 2.  They won't because nature didn't make it. 

 

It's scary that the virology gang whose sloppiness that started all this will never be held accountable, never mention spend one day in jail.

 

 

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1 hour ago, dpberr said:

That's real end of times ***** right there. They will undoubtedly screw up again. I've said in a previous post that all this SARS stuff is lab accidents. They never found definitive proof of SARS in the wild not to mention SARS 2.  They won't because nature didn't make it. 

 

It's scary that the virology gang who's sloppiness that started all this will never be held accountable, never mention spend one day in jail.

 

 

 

 

The media could force this on both parties by running with it as ferociously as they did over the horror story of a President that might like the idea of getting along with Russia.  I know this end times virus potential or just the lock down indefinite mitigation goodbye USA is nowhere near that level of scandal but I mean c'mon man.  

 

Unfortunately the party they solely represent the CCP/DNC is giving then their marching orders and they are obliging.

 

I'm told today gun violence is a public health crisis you know.  

 

China is laughing their freaking a***s off. 

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10 hours ago, Chef Jim said:


I’m not referring to specific virus. Why did the Spanish flu cases drop dramatically (better)?

 

The Spanish Flu never went away. Its variants still kill thousands every year. 

 

SARS-COV-2 is different as far as we can tell with its variants more contained to changes along its spike proteins. This makes it easier to vaccinate against long term and should make it a lot less like H1N1 that comes every year with massively deadly variants. 

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21 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Anecdote time.

 

I cure my own sausages.  I spray them with a bacteria.  It's a "good" bacteria designed to protect the sausages from "bad" bacteria.  That's the white mold you see on certain cured meat.  When they are fully cured the mold his too much so I wipe it off.  I noticed I was getting congested after doing that.  Mold in your lungs is very scary.  So 2020 rolls around and I have all sorts of masks to use.  I had two batches done over two weekends.  I wear my cheap blue "paper" mask one week.  Chest is congested.  Week two I switch to my dense cloth mask.  Guess what?  Chest was congested. So my little experiment shows masks may not work?  

 

Explain my story.  

Mold spores are around 3-30 microns in diameter and your mask pores were likely larger than that, thus not filtered as effectively.  The difference between your mold situation and that of Covid is that the main route of transmission of Covid is through larger droplets and aerosols which are captured more readily by masks.  The mold spores are released as individual spores and not in droplet form.

8 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

The media could force this on both parties by running with it as ferociously as they did over the horror story of a President that might like the idea of getting along with Russia.  I know this end times virus potential or just the lock down indefinite mitigation goodbye USA is nowhere near that level of scandal but I mean c'mon man.  

 

Unfortunately the party they solely represent the CCP/DNC is giving then their marching orders and they are obliging.

 

I'm told today gun violence is a public health crisis you know.  

 

China is laughing their freaking a***s off. 

When you have thousands of people, i.e. the public, dying from gunshots every year across the country what would you call it?

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30 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Mold spores are around 3-30 microns in diameter and your mask pores were likely larger than that, thus not filtered as effectively.  The difference between your mold situation and that of Covid is that the main route of transmission of Covid is through larger droplets and aerosols which are captured more readily by masks.  The mold spores are released as individual spores and not in droplet form.

All this on @Chef Jim ‘s sausage and the spores emanating from within, but scientific alligator arms on mass protests involving tens of thousands of individuals from all walks of life, in cities across the country, week after week after week...

 

Of course, it’s started again as the weather  Not a concern from the White House about the spread, das Fauch making his media rounds missing opportunity after opportunity to appeal to people that if you’re going to loot and burn, for God’s sake get vaccinated first!   
 

On the bright side, in NY, turns out COVID does not start bar-hopping until midnight in NY. 
 


 

 

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