The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[BillStime]

3 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

But vaccinated people have died from COVID.  Virtually, I say this.  And more people have died from adverse side effects from the COVID vaccines than all deaths from all other vaccines administered in the past 25 years.  If this was a "normal" time the CDC would most surely stop the vaccinations.  But its not so the "safe and effective" narrative continues to get played. 

 

Here's the other thing.  About 1/2 of all workers at the CDC have declined to get vaccinated.  The CDC.  Think about what that means.  These are not uninformed, uneducated hillbillies running around touting conspiracy theories.  These are medical professionals that are among the most informed about COVID and the vaccines.  So what exactly is their concern?  Wouldn't it be beneficial to listen to what they have to say?  Rather than flippantly dismiss anyone with a concern.  Same thing with a large number of first responders and hospital workers that have been on the front lines since the beginning of the pandemic.  Why are they, once again, among the most informed hesitant to get vaccinated?  Its not because they are uninformed.  Quite the opposite.  Its because they are informed.  Instead of just swallowing the official message hook, line, and sinker maybe people need to start doing some thinking for themselves?  And start asking critical questions to official and experts and demanding answers not just more double-speak and evasive slogans.  

 

As for me I thought long and hard about it but eventually decided to get vaccinated with my second shot about 3 weeks ago.  But that doesn't mean I accept the idea there's no risk to it.  I just decided to roll the dice.  Like the rest of you that got vaccinated whether you realize that or want to accept that there is a risk.  When you got vaccinated with these Moderna or Pfizer gene therapy experimental vaccines you took that risk just like I did.  If you want to pretend or believe or fool yourself into thinking there's no risk then that's your choice.  

 

Can you please fact check that 1/2 of CDC employees refuse vaccine?

 

thanks

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

8 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Can you please fact check that 1/2 of CDC employees refuse vaccine?

 

thanks

 

 

OK, the story I saw indicated about 50% of CDC staff had been vaccinated.  But "assumed" the remainder either refused or had reservations.  Assumed.  So most likely less.  

[ALF]

EXCLUSIVE: Robert Redfield, the former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, explained the reasoning behind his opinion that a lab leak was the most likely explanation for the COVID-19 pandemic’s origins, in a wide-ranging interview with Fox News.

 

Former CDC director Redfield explains why he believes COVID-19 emerged from lab, WHO 'compromised'

 

Redfield argued COVID-19’s efficient human-to-human spread contradicted the behavior of other deadly coronaviruses with similar profiles, such as SARS and MERS, which first reached humans through animal contact but spread at a much slower pace.

 

"When I said before that I didn't think it was biologically plausible that COVID-19 went from a bat to some unknown animal into man and now had become one of the most infectious viruses," Redfield said, "That's not consistent with how other coronaviruses have come into the human species.

 

And, it does suggest that there's an alternative hypothesis that it went from a bat virus, got into a laboratory, where in the laboratory, it was taught, educated, it evolved, so that it became a virus that could efficiently transmit human to human."

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/robert-redfield-cdc-covid-19-lab-leak-who-compromised

Edited June 15, 2021 by ALF

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

OK, the story I saw indicated about 50% of CDC staff had been vaccinated.  But "assumed" the remainder either refused or had reservations.  Assumed.  So most likely less.  

 

All good.

 

[Sundancer]

55 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

OK, the story I saw indicated about 50% of CDC staff had been vaccinated.  But "assumed" the remainder either refused or had reservations.  Assumed.  So most likely less.  

 

The "story" was based on a remark that Fauci made in a hearing where he estimated that 50-60% of the CDC employees were fully vaccinated in May. 

 

Somehow folks with agendas turned that into 50% of CDC employees refused the vaccine. 

 

We are getting somewhere. Now fact check the VAERs data about people dying "from" the vaccine and that statement goes away too. 

[B-Man]

 

 

THE ANSWER IS “YES”, SHERLOCK: 

 

Did anti-Trump bias blind science to evidence for COVID lab-leak theory?

 

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/calls-lab-leak-investigation-grow-signs-scientists-shunned-it-just

 

 

 

[oldmanfan]

3 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2021/05/17/how-a-history-of-lies-paved-the-way-to-vaccine-hesitancy-for-african-americans/%3foutputType=amp
 

Fools? 

I understand the history.  It is foolish to not get this vaccine.

[BillStime]

48 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

THE ANSWER IS “YES”, SHERLOCK: 

 

Did anti-Trump bias blind science to evidence for COVID lab-leak theory?

 

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/calls-lab-leak-investigation-grow-signs-scientists-shunned-it-just

 

 

 

Why didn’t Trump get to the bottom of this while he was in office?

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

3 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

I understand the history.  It is foolish to not get this vaccine.

Well, while I think you display a considerable lack of tolerance at times, your commitment to call out the fools as you see them is noteworthy. 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[John Adams]

57 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Meme-man!

[Big Gun]

1 hour ago, oldmanfan said:

I understand the history.  It is foolish to not get this vaccine.

Is it though......or is it foolish to get the vaccine

 

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/06/14/covid-19-vaccine-mistake.aspx?ui=fd42e0aeaf0952c2d51b3c37963fcf2483b104181c8c484a4809617d1b1e6010&sd=19000101&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1ReadMore&cid=20210614_HL2&mid=DM910315&rid=1183362846&p4=20201023&p5=

[Big Blitz]

New York lifts 'virtually all' COVID-19 restrictions effective immediately, Gov. Cuomo announces

 

 

Coming out to a standing ovation in Manhattan's One World Trade Center, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced that "we can now return to life as we know it" because the state hit his required threshold of a 70% first-dose vaccination rate.

 

"Remember June 15th. Remember today, because it is the day that New York rose again," Cuomo said, adding that June 15 is also his late father and former New York Gov. Mario Cuomo's birthday.

 

 

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Counties and localities can still implement their own restrictions, and Cuomo added that New York will still observe CDC guidance. Individual businesses can also keep their own mask policies.

 

The announcement did not provide any clarity on mask and social distancing measures in schools.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-covid-restrictions-lifted-cuomo-announcement-2021-6

 

 

 

 

Yes folks.  Exactly like life as you knew it. 

 

Also don't forget your NYS Vaccine pass. 

[Doc Brown]

4 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

OK, the story I saw indicated about 50% of CDC staff had been vaccinated.  But "assumed" the remainder either refused or had reservations.  Assumed.  So most likely less.  

Actual doctors don't seem to have reservations. 

 

https://consumer.healthday.com/b-6-14-almost-all-u-s-physicians-have-gotten-a-covid-vaccine-2653327263.html

 

More than 96% are fully vaccinated against COVID-19, with no significant difference in vaccination rates across regions, according to a new survey from the American Medical Association (AMA).

 

Even among the 4% not yet vaccinated, 45% said they do plan to get their vaccine.

42 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

New York lifts 'virtually all' COVID-19 restrictions effective immediately, Gov. Cuomo announces

 

 

Coming out to a standing ovation in Manhattan's One World Trade Center, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced that "we can now return to life as we know it" because the state hit his required threshold of a 70% first-dose vaccination rate.

 

"Remember June 15th. Remember today, because it is the day that New York rose again," Cuomo said, adding that June 15 is also his late father and former New York Gov. Mario Cuomo's birthday.

 

 

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Counties and localities can still implement their own restrictions, and Cuomo added that New York will still observe CDC guidance. Individual businesses can also keep their own mask policies.

 

The announcement did not provide any clarity on mask and social distancing measures in schools.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-covid-restrictions-lifted-cuomo-announcement-2021-6

 

 

 

 

Yes folks.  Exactly like life as you knew it. 

 

Also don't forget your NYS Vaccine pass. 

[SoCal Deek]

3 hours ago, BillStime said:

Why didn’t Trump get to the bottom of this while he was in office?

He was busy getting a hospital boat for the Governor of Death!  He even got one for California. Neither one was used. 

[TH3]

3 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

When exactly did YOU start thinking that Jon Stewart was someone to be trusted?

[reddogblitz]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

He was busy getting a hospital boat for the Governor of Death!  He even got one for California. Neither one was used. 

 

They didn't use the hospital set up in the Seahawks stadium parking lot either.

[B-Man]

1 hour ago, TH3 said:

When exactly did YOU start thinking that Jon Stewart was someone to be trusted?

 

 

I didn't say he was to be trusted.

 

You misunderstood the subject of the political cartoon.

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

LOCKDOWN CONSEQUENCES: 

 

1.2 Million Children World-Wide Could Die From Disrupted Healthcare Amid Pandemic Lockdowns, Analysis Finds.

 

https://fee.org/articles/12-million-children-world-wide-could-die-from-disrupted-healthcare-amid-pandemic-lockdowns-analysis-finds/

 

 

 

 

Related: The rich and powerful thrived as the rest of us suffered in the year of lockdowns.

 

https://nypost.com/2021/05/20/the-rich-and-powerful-thrived-as-the-rest-of-us-suffered-in-the-year-of-lockdowns/

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, reddogblitz said:

 

They didn't use the hospital set up in the Seahawks stadium parking lot either.

 

That's the thing I didn't understand.  They had us shelter at home to make sure hospitals were not overwhelmed while the mercy ship sat empty in the LA harbor.