GaryPinC Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 5 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: A relative of mine who was a front line worker said they tested everyone once they had enough tests regardless of cod and coded covid if positive because $$. Not sure if pervasive, but it’s possible all the data is garbage... I’m not suggesting covid wasn’t a problem, just that actual number are suspect, low early because of lack of identification and perhaps then later inflated due to financial incentive. If a patient "died" of Covid but didn't die directly from it that is fraud. Anyone here who feels that happened to a family member should report it. I have no doubt that this happened to at least a small degree but fraud creates a wealth of repercussions to physicians and the hospital. If it happened to anyone here then report it so we can see if it is of any significance. I personally doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: I told this story a couple of months ago. Our daughter had a baby in April. The hospital required she be tested before going to the hospital for an induced delivery. Her husband did not need to be tested, even though he was right there with her during the delivery. Why? Because he wasn't a patient. So then why was she tested? Answer....money! The Hospital gets more money if they can say they treated a Covid patient. For cripes sakes, was her husband squirting bodily fluids out his *****? Anyone undergoing any invasive medical procedure will be tested for Covid. My dad, wife, and son all were, even though two were fully vaccinated at the time. It's called risk assessment and in the case of your daughter, it would be helpful considering the trauma to her body and her newborn's. The doctors and nurses performing procedures and caring for her would like to know. The hospital would like to make appropriate room procedures for staying overnight(s) at their facility. Do you come off your "hospitals are just doing it for the Covid $$" rant long enough to realize there's a medical necessity here??? Your stupid hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, TSOL said: I love opinions stated as facts. The Lancet is a joke. What did you expect? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, GaryPinC said: For cripes sakes, was her husband squirting bodily fluids out his *****? Anyone undergoing any invasive medical procedure will be tested for Covid. My dad, wife, and son all were, even though two were fully vaccinated at the time. It's called risk assessment and in the case of your daughter, it would be helpful considering the trauma to her body and her newborn's. The doctors and nurses performing procedures and caring for her would like to know. The hospital would like to make appropriate room procedures for staying overnight(s) at their facility. Do you come off your "hospitals are just doing it for the Covid $$" rant long enough to realize there's a medical necessity here??? Your stupid hurts. Risk of what exactly? Give me a break! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Fweeeeeeeeeeedom!!!! Foo Fighters: Former fans ‘throw albums in bin’ after band announce ‘no vaccine, no gig’ policy On Tuesday (8 June), the rock group announced that they will play New York’s Madison Square Garden on 20 June for fans who have been vaccinated against Covid-19. Fans must have received their second dose at least 14 days before the concert takes place, as the event will be mask-free. https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/foo-fighters-covid-vaccine-concert-b1863350.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Fweeeeeeeeeeedom!!!! Foo Fighters: Former fans ‘throw albums in bin’ after band announce ‘no vaccine, no gig’ policy On Tuesday (8 June), the rock group announced that they will play New York’s Madison Square Garden on 20 June for fans who have been vaccinated against Covid-19. Fans must have received their second dose at least 14 days before the concert takes place, as the event will be mask-free. https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/foo-fighters-covid-vaccine-concert-b1863350.html Free enterprise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 3 hours ago, BillStime said: How many if we listened to the guy who is always right: Hydroxychloroquine drug touted by Trump as Covid treatment can increase survival rates by 200%, study finds THE drug hydroxychloroquine can increase a Covid-19 patient’s survival rate by up to 200 percent, according to a fresh study. https://www.the-sun.com/news/3056434/hydroxychloroquine-trump-covid-survival/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Big Blitz said: How many if we listened to the guy who is always right: Hydroxychloroquine drug touted by Trump as Covid treatment can increase survival rates by 200%, study finds THE drug hydroxychloroquine can increase a Covid-19 patient’s survival rate by up to 200 percent, according to a fresh study. https://www.the-sun.com/news/3056434/hydroxychloroquine-trump-covid-survival/ Trust this guy? The guy who just put out a statement saying he trusts Putin more than our own government? Edited June 11, 2021 by BillStime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: How many if we listened to the guy who is always right: Hydroxychloroquine drug touted by Trump as Covid treatment can increase survival rates by 200%, study finds THE drug hydroxychloroquine can increase a Covid-19 patient’s survival rate by up to 200 percent, according to a fresh study. https://www.the-sun.com/news/3056434/hydroxychloroquine-trump-covid-survival/ Don't waste your breath. These scumbags wanted people to die so that it would make Trump look bad and get him voted out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) This is all about the coming "recommendation" ALL AGES can now get it.....or at least ages 5 and up. This is no doubt many a school districts currently secret plans before ever letting their teachers have to manage a classroom again. If your governor sucks, your K--8th graders will continue to conduct school in distanced bubbles. Edited June 11, 2021 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Career, piece of trash, bureaucrat. He's not concerned about whether it was right or wrong and simply continuing to focus on that and nothing else... No he's such a scum bag, he's concerned about the OPTICS!: Fauci recently told The New York Times in a June 10 feature on Walensky that he believes the CDC's announcement on lifting mask mandates was somewhat mishandled. "Retrospectively, when you look at the negative reaction of so many people, so many organizations, you have to come to the conclusion that it could have been done better," Fauci said. "There'll be a lesson learned here." https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/10/health/walensky-cdc-covid.html After the news broke, many people felt as if the CDC's announcement to end its recommendation to use masks was rushed. Even the White House got less than a day's notice before the announcement was made. "The CDC, the doctors and medical experts there, are the ones who determined what this guidance would be based on their own data, and what the timeline would be. That was not a decision directed by or made by the White House," Jen Psaki, White House press secretary, said during a news briefing on May 14, per The Times. https://bestlifeonline.com/fauci-cdcs-mask-guidance-news/ Lol....."many people." This country is so lost. And ya gotta love the NY Times. Look at that glowing angelic pose Walensky is in.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Out here in California they’re still trying to hold on to ultimate control. Just this week the state’s occupational health and safety office (OSHA) ruled that if a single person in your office isn’t vaccinated you all have to wear masks. (Now, remember as an employer you can’t ask people if they are vaccinated.) The business community came unglued!!! Now, just a few days later OSHA has said ‘wait a minute...we’ll get back to you’. Once they feel they have the control it’s really really hard for them to give it up. Stay tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Out here in California they’re still trying to hold on to ultimate control. Just this week the state’s occupational health and safety office (OSHA) ruled that if a single person in your office isn’t vaccinated you all have to wear masks. (Now, remember as an employer you can’t ask people if they are vaccinated.) The business community came unglued!!! Now, just a few days later OSHA has said ‘wait a minute...we’ll get back to you’. Once they feel they have the control it’s really really hard for them to give it up. Stay tuned. If you still aren’t vaccinated at this point, you should have to wear a shield and have your office moved to the basement like the guy in Office Space, then be pushed out the door and replaced with someone that’s a bit more sensible. I would make employees wear a pink shield with unicorns on it and let it play out. There can be no accommodations made for the unvaccinated. If you have Hep C or AIDS and you give it to someone else, you can be criminally charged. It should be no different here moving forward. Edited June 11, 2021 by Governor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, Governor said: If you still aren’t vaccinated at this point, you should have to wear a shield and have your office moved to the basement like the guy in Office Space, then be pushed out the door and replaced with someone that’s a bit more sensible. There can be no accommodations made for the unvaccinated. If you have Hep C or AIDS and you give it to someone else, you can be criminally charged. It should be no different here moving forward. If you are vaccinated then anyone that is not vaccinated cannot get you sick. So what are you afraid of? Also people that have recovered from the infection but are not vaccinated have "better" natural immunity than those of us that have been vaccinated. Why should people that already have natural immunity get vaccinated? These people cannot get you sick. So what are you afraid of? Why isn't the CDC or anyone recognizing these people have immunity. They do not care to explain and as a matter of fact nobody seems to care to explain this. We should not be focused just on the number of people vaccinated. We should focus on the number of people with immunity. Which is vaccinated people plus people with natural immunity. Remember, "follow the science". Or does this quote apply? "For the left, science is not a process by which someone advances a hypothesis, conducts a rigorously controlled and carefully observed experiment to test that hypothesis, and then admits honestly whether the hypothesis lived or died. On the left, science is a thing in which you “believe” (kind of like faith), and it invariably supports one’s political beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 13 hours ago, Doc said: Don't waste your breath. These scumbags wanted people to die so that it would make Trump look bad and get him voted out. Hence my: BEST PANDEMIC EVER!! Campaign from last year. Looks as though I was right. 😏 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 WaPo fact-checker notes there’s now ‘serious new reporting’ on previously debunked Trump claim of Wuhan lab leak https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/06/10/wapo-fact-checker-notes-theres-now-serious-new-reporting-on-previously-debunked-trump-claim-of-wuhan-lab-leak/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 I BLAME JOE BIDEN. ISN’T THAT HOW THIS GAME IS PLAYED? COVID-19 Deaths Are Higher for This Year So Far Than for All of Last Year. Here’s Why. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2021/06/10/more-people-have-died-of-covid-this-year-worldwide-than-all-of-2020-n1453656 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 WHY DID CRASHES GO UP EVEN THOUGH DRIVING WENT DOWN DURING THE LOCKDOWNS? “The proportion of drivers testing positive for opioids nearly doubled after mid-March, compared to the previous six months, while marijuana prevalence increased by about 50 percent.” When you scare people, they self-medicate. https://www.sciencealert.com/deadly-crashes-in-the-us-surged-in-the-pandemic-despite-americans-driving-less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Chef Jim said: Hence my: BEST PANDEMIC EVER!! Campaign from last year. Looks as though I was right. 😏 Democrats tricked Red states into not taking Covid precautions and made them act incredibly irresponsibly towards their fellow neighbor, promote fake cures, and not get vaccinated, which killed off their voters and prevented them from winning elections. They’re very clever! How did the Democrats make them do all of that? Edited June 12, 2021 by Governor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 18 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: If you are vaccinated then anyone that is not vaccinated cannot get you sick. So what are you afraid of? Also people that have recovered from the infection but are not vaccinated have "better" natural immunity than those of us that have been vaccinated. Why should people that already have natural immunity get vaccinated? These people cannot get you sick. So what are you afraid of? Why isn't the CDC or anyone recognizing these people have immunity. They do not care to explain and as a matter of fact nobody seems to care to explain this. We should not be focused just on the number of people vaccinated. We should focus on the number of people with immunity. Which is vaccinated people plus people with natural immunity. Remember, "follow the science". Or does this quote apply? "For the left, science is not a process by which someone advances a hypothesis, conducts a rigorously controlled and carefully observed experiment to test that hypothesis, and then admits honestly whether the hypothesis lived or died. On the left, science is a thing in which you “believe” (kind of like faith), and it invariably supports one’s political beliefs. Because the medical field as a whole is extremely cautious. The Cleveland Clinic study was conducted mostly with younger and healthy people (do older and more at risk people produce the same robust immune response?) and we don't know how long the natural immunity lasts. Vaccines have shown effectiveness against the different Covid strains up to this point while there's little information about how the strains impact people who got Covid that haven't received the vaccine. The CDC and the media should make people aware of the study though for people still on the fence about getting the vaccine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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