Deranged Rhino Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 A Tiger King question now -- about pardoning Joe Exotic. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 And now the "Tiger King" portion of the presser (which was kinda funny) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Seeing a lot about a stat saying total US deaths in March were down 15% (due to the lockdown/less traffic/murder etc) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 41 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: JESUS CHRIST WITH STRIPES WILL YOU PEOPLE STEAL EVERYTHING FROM ME?? I used to love nothing more than driving my gas-guzzling SUV to a buffet, sitting within 2' of my friends and munching on plates of warm rice and finger foods before whistling at the pretty girls on the way home to watch Deniro in "Goodfellas". Somebody better fix this sh#t! Sorry boss. I took a ServeSafe course and that was one of the top issues in serving food to the public. I’m certified. 19 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Can't you just get by with the blue pill? No worries there. My issue is two failed microdiscectomies and the need for inserting a fake disc and fusion. I’m not a happy camper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Seeing a lot about a stat saying total US deaths in March were down 15% (due to the lockdown/less traffic/murder etc) They're probably referring to research done by this professor. But he pulled his analysis back due to inconsistent data from CDC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: It's amazing to me that they haven't deleted this tweet. I'm not on twitter, but it looks like a tweet citing Chinese authorities, so why would the WHO need to delete it? I'm sure they've tweeted a bunch of stuff since then. If it said "WHO's initial investigation shows no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission..." then that would be humiliating. or maybe the "Chinese authorities" should just delete their authority? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, GG said: They're probably referring to research done by this professor. But he pulled his analysis back due to inconsistent data from CDC. Appreciated. Couldn't figure out where it was coming from (and why no one was linking a direct stat). Just now, LeGOATski said: I'm not on twitter, but it looks like a tweet citing Chinese authorities, so why would the WHO need to delete it? I'm sure they've tweeted a bunch of stuff since then. If it said "WHO's initial investigation shows no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission..." then that would be humiliating. or maybe the "Chinese authorities" should just delete their authority? The WHO still knows the claim is incorrect. Regardless of who said it, the WHO promoted it with that tweet -- which they should remedy. Yet, they haven't. Which, in today's world, is just stunning to me as it's PR 101. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Jim Acosta is a putz. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: It's amazing to me that they haven't deleted this tweet. What can I say? I'm shocked. Again lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, reddogblitz said: I don't know how they do it n CA, but in WA you have to sign your ballot and they verify the signatures. I know cuz my wife has had hers challenged a couple of times. Which is s a form of voter id in that they verify you really are who you say you are. As far as which ballots to gather, they use the same data to gather the votes that they use to draw up to draw congressional districts. And yes, Rs do it too. They're playing hard ball. They cheat no matter what you do. Google "ballot box 13" if you don't believe me. I don't necessarily have an issue with voter id. Seems racist to me to say minority people are too stupid or lazy to get a voter id. Again, boggles my mind that people in CA are stupid enough to give their ballot to someone else to mail. At least in WA it's postage paid. How hard is it walk down to your mailbox and drop it in? You go there once a day anyway. Seems rules could be tightened to prevent most of this assuming anyone in congress really wanted to do something about it. The soft bigotry of lowered expectations. 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: •••sits back, takes glasses off and slowly fixes gaze on Doc••• "And this television, Doc. It heard you? You think you saved Boris, right? How does that make you feel?" Is that what you got from it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 26 minutes ago, Magox said: It will happen. I guarantee it. Specially with these beefed up unemployment benefits Employers are going to have to offer $25 an hour just to beat the weekly unemployment benifits some people are getting in some states right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) Stirring the Bernie Pot. ? ROTF Why hasn't President Obama supported Joe Biden? It amazes me President Obama hasn't supported Sleepy Joe. Edited April 8, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Stirring the Bernie Pot. ? ROTF Why hasn't President Obama supported Joe Biden? It amazes me President Obama hasn't supported Sleepy Joe. "Because he (Obama) doesn't want to see another four years of me..." Fact check: True 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Will US cut oil? We are market oriented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Appreciated. Couldn't figure out where it was coming from (and why no one was linking a direct stat). The WHO still knows the claim is incorrect. Regardless of who said it, the WHO promoted it with that tweet -- which they should remedy. Yet, they haven't. Which, in today's world, is just stunning to me as it's PR 101. Maybe some people look at it like it matters, which is bad for PR. The fact that anyone cares about that is a big problem on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, LeGOATski said: Maybe some people look at it like it matters, which is bad for PR. The fact that anyone cares about that is a big problem on its own. You don't think people should care that the World Health Organization is (still) promoting false information during a pandemic? (Or am I misunderstanding you) If it was just a random account, or unconnected agency -- I'd get that completely. But when it's the WHO, the veracity of the information tends to be more important (imo) ****************** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: You don't think people should care that the World Health Organization is (still) promoting false information during a pandemic? (Or am I misunderstanding you) If it was just a random account, or unconnected agency -- I'd get that completely. But when it's the WHO, the veracity of the information tends to be more important (imo) When was it tweeted? January? It's an initial report from Chinese authorities, not the WHO. Why would they not tweet about an initial report from China, where this all originated? It seems like standard procedure, from what I understand of Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, ScotSHO said: I want to live in this world where you don't have to show up to work if you don't want to. It sounds like an Andrew Yang utopia. it exists but you have to work a shitload to get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: When was it tweeted? January? It's an initial report from Chinese authorities, not the WHO. Why would they not tweet about an initial report from China, where this all originated? It seems like standard procedure, from what I understand of Twitter. At that point in time China had already shut down all of their movie theaters. Unless you think that they were all inhabited by bats, they are acting to prevent human to human transmission but claiming that it is impossible. China is guilty of first degree murder and needs to pay the price for it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, meazza said: Have you seen any studies that strongly support this hypothesis? Fauci has said this many times that this is virus is most likely seasonal but then you'd expect a complete slowdown of the virus in the southern European states and in Japan in the month of April again it is very hard to prove a negative. how can anyone, at this point, with any amount of certainty say whether the leveling off and coming drop in reported cases is due to social distancing or warmer weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Foxx said: again it is very hard to prove a negative. how can anyone, at this point, with any amount of certainty say whether the leveling off and coming drop in reported cases is due to social distancing or warmer weather. Because Florida didn’t take many precautionary measures and given the demographics, you should be expecting a greater spread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: When was it tweeted? January? It's an initial report from Chinese authorities, not the WHO. Why would they not tweet about an initial report from China, where this all originated? It seems like standard procedure, from what I understand of Twitter. Yes, tweeted in January by the WHO citing China's numbers. Numbers we now know (and the likely WHO knew then) to be false. I'm not arguing that they shouldn't tweet relevant information in a timely manner, I'm pointing out that they've left up perhaps the most damning tweet in their entire organization's history rather than delete it. That's much more honest than I expected from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 32 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Employers are going to have to offer $25 an hour just to beat the weekly unemployment benifits some people are getting in some states right now. The stock value of Walmart will take a major hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) I'm not really paying close attention, but there was a guy just on from the CDC about some new guidelines being posted today (it was about essential business people). Edited April 8, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: The stock value of Walmart will take a major hit. Or maybe $25 today is worth $15 last month, so it is a net zero and Wall Street will shrug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Fauci said to clinicaltrials.gov for formal clinical trials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, meazza said: Because Florida didn’t take many precautionary measures and given the demographics, you should be expecting a greater spread. good point. they were somewhat behind the curve initially but have since taken up the 'stay at home' mantra. be interesting to see how their numbers progress these next couple weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 31 minutes ago, Foxx said: it exists but you have to work a shitload to get there. LIAR! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 26 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: At that point in time China had already shut down all of their movie theaters. Unless you think that they were all inhabited by bats, they are acting to prevent human to human transmission but claiming that it is impossible. China is guilty of first degree murder and needs to pay the price for it. I agree with that, pretty much. Just don't understand outrage at a tweet in January about an initial report. Seems misplaced. All that outrage should be placed on Chinese authorities. 18 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Yes, tweeted in January by the WHO citing China's numbers. Numbers we now know (and the likely WHO knew then) to be false. I'm not arguing that they shouldn't tweet relevant information in a timely manner, I'm pointing out that they've left up perhaps the most damning tweet in their entire organization's history rather than delete it. That's much more honest than I expected from them. What else did they tweet around that time? This seems so trivial without any context. It's not like the WHO said in the tweet "This report is legit". They're just relaying what the Chinese are saying. It can be used as evidence of how the Chinese were misrepresenting/manipulating the facts, if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Yes, tweeted in January by the WHO citing China's numbers. Numbers we now know (and the likely WHO knew then) to be false. I'm not arguing that they shouldn't tweet relevant information in a timely manner, I'm pointing out that they've left up perhaps the most damning tweet in their entire organization's history rather than delete it. That's much more honest than I expected from them. I’m guessing it is less a case of honesty and is more or less a total lack of self awareness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: I agree with that, pretty much. Just don't understand outrage at a tweet in January about an initial report. Seems misplaced. All that outrage should be placed on Chinese authorities. WHO either lied or was incompetent. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: What else did they tweet around that time? This seems so trivial without any context. It's not like the WHO said in the tweet "This report is legit". They're just relaying what the Chinese are saying. It can be used as evidence of how the Chinese were misrepresenting/manipulating the facts, if anything. This was not just a tweet. It was the WHO's stance for two weeks prior to declaring the epidemic. They more than likely knew it was false (because China definitely knew it was false) at the time of tweeting it (again, they did more than tweet, this was their advice to the world re Coronavirus and shutting down borders), but left it up because they had other interests at play (namely, their ties to the CCP). They told the world in mid-January that this bug couldn't be spread human to human. They could have issued the pandemic much sooner and saved many lives in the process. They didn't... because: China. (more) https://nypost.com/2020/03/20/who-haunted-by-old-tweet-saying-china-found-no-human-transmission-of-coronavirus/ 5 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: I’m guessing it is less a case of honesty and is more or less a total lack of self awareness. Oh, I agree 100% 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: WHO either lied or was incompetent. The tweet has nothing to do with that, though. It's just a weird focus on a single tweet where they're forwarding information from a government agency. Aren't they obligated to report this information? In a perfect world, we should be able to trust our governments, but you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, LeGOATski said: The tweet has nothing to do with that, though. It's just a weird focus on a single tweet where they're forwarding information from a government agency. Aren't they obligated to report this information? In a perfect world, we should be able to trust our governments, but you know... It was much more than a tweet -- it was their public stance which they used to base their recommendations to the global community at the time. And it was not only wrong, they likely knew it was wrong. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: It was much more than a tweet -- it was their public stance which they used to base their recommendations to the global community at the time. And it was not only wrong, they likely knew it was wrong. It was incompetence, negligence, or corruption. None of which is a good look for them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: It was much more than a tweet -- it was their public stance which they used to base their recommendations to the global community at the time. And it was not only wrong, they likely knew it was wrong. Right, so we need to prove they knew. That tweet just shows them conducting business as usual, while relying on China's data. Whoever tweeted that for the WHO, it's literally their job to inform twitter about the reports coming in so it's a big shoulder-shrug to me. That NY Post article you posted puts all the blame on China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Doc said: The soft bigotry of lowered expectations. Is that what you got from it? No, I think you’re a good poster and get a lot out of what you share. I do appreciate it. On the other hand, some things strike me as funny, and I was watching Ozark last night and there was a therapist on that Marty was bribing and, well, you know. My bad on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Magox said: I just provided the numbers. They can say whatever they want to say, the facts are the facts. That article has numbers, including this one that shows the rural cases didn't rise at the same time as the urban areas, but are rising now.Hopefully that slope continues to be less steep but it's not like it's about to level. Cases are also increasing in more states now, where before this was almost entirely driven by NYC and northern NJ. Buffalo, from my brother who has volunteered to shift from his hospital to work at St. Joe's (Buffalo's dedicated Covid-19 hospital), has 3X as many cases now as it had 2 days ago. That number won't be going down. The deaths and cases won't rival NYC because of the population difference but this is a problem that appears to be progressing everywhere. The distancing is working but no place is immune to this just because they drive more or have more space. They just won't have the NYC experience. The place that is surprising is CA. Despite all the people, it has very low #s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: No, I think you’re a good poster and get a lot out of what you share. I do appreciate it. On the other hand, some things strike me as funny, and I was watching Ozark last night and there was a therapist on that Marty was bribing and, well, you know. My bad on that one. Thanks. But FTR, all I wanted to know is if they gave him HCQ and zinc. No one had that info. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 29 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: It was much more than a tweet -- it was their public stance which they used to base their recommendations to the global community at the time. And it was not only wrong, they likely knew it was wrong. The WHO's stance on not recommending a travel ban and saying there was nothing wrong with traveling to and from China was incomprehensible. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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