Gary M Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Gary Busey said: That was a great move and saved many lives. I think Shady is talking more about ignoring intelligence briefings on the severity of the virus and calling reaction to the news of the virus a hoax. Which he never did! He called what the dems and shady are doing a hoax. Edited March 26, 2020 by Gary M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Let's be honest, Trump touting that things will be open in Easter doesn't stray too far from his usual off the cuff proclamations. I don't understand how people simply haven't gotten used to not taking those comments seriously. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Sorry, but people like to see the same thing in ther leaders as they do their parents in times of crises.: Strength and comfort If it were FDR, JFK, LBJ, Clinton these leftists would drooling over themselves from the factless feelz their leader was putting out. "It will get better soon" followed by swooning of guys like Tibs, Busey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: His goals for tomorrow (Easter) are scientifically impossible. All I'm asking for is for him to be realistic. I have a business I would like to open this summer. The longer he pretends things are improving (they're not - look at the numbers) the longer this is going to drag out. This is true. If you see strength and comfort in our current president, that's good. I see a child-like adult saying something different each day. Ya see Gary...you CAN have a conversation! Thank you. (Seriously) So in the end, you disagree with the President’s style of messaging? That’s a legitimate opinion...I guess. However, with that taken into account, I’m not sure why the style of message would bother you. When you get to be President, you can deliver the message as you want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Gary Busey said: That was a great move and saved many lives. I think Shady is talking more about ignoring intelligence briefings on the severity of the virus and calling reaction to the news of the virus a hoax. Does it really matter at this point? Justin Trudeau (who many of you here on the left would vote for) was extremely inactive up until a couple of weeks ago even though there were clear signs that this was going to hit Canada. Same thing for Italy and France. Everyone of these leaders took it lightly. Trump banning travel from China in January was a good move but it should have also been followed up by testing people coming into the country starting in February when this was obviously going to cause problems. All western leaders deserve a kick in the ass for this mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gary M said: Which he never did! He called what the dems and shady are doing a hoax. What exactly is that hoax? I've asked for a definition before but haven't gotten one. What is the speciific hoax dems and shady are doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 34 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: he doesn't listen to experts because he thinks hes smarter. Listen to the experts he talks out of his ass - It's only the flu and it all be over by April. It will disappear, it will be a miracle. Stop telling lies. - “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA,” he tweeted in late February “Anybody that needs a test, gets a test. They’re there. They have the tests. And the tests are beautiful.” He only took this serious when the markets crashed, not when the cases were exploding. Don't you ever tire of looking at things from such an intellectually shallow perspective? Seriously, your grasp on issues is so tenuous that I'm embarrased for you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Gary Busey said: What exactly is that hoax? I've asked for a definition before but haven't gotten one. What is the speciific hoax dems and shady are doing? Claiming that he did not take it seriously. They base their examples on his public statements and ignore the real life steps he took. And then twist his words and claim he said COVID is a hoax. Edited March 26, 2020 by Gary M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 minute ago, meazza said: Let's be honest, Trump touting that things will be open in Easter doesn't stray too far from his usual off the cuff proclamations. I don't understand how people simply haven't gotten used to not taking those comments seriously. I understand the point but he actually didn’t say they’d be better by Easter. He said he HOPED that things would be well enough along by Easter that people could go to Church. Of course, that ‘hope’ is very confusing to people who don’t celebrate Easter, but rather think of it as just an annoying day when you can’t get a table at Sunday brunch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Just now, meazza said: Does it really matter at this point? Justin Trudeau (who many of you here on the left would vote for) was extremely inactive up until a couple of weeks ago even though there were clear signs that this was going to hit Canada. Same thing for Italy and France. Everyone of these leaders took it lightly. Trump banning travel from China in January was a good move but it should have also been followed up by testing people coming into the country starting in February when this was obviously going to cause problems. All western leaders deserve a kick in the ass for this mess. I don't live in Canada and don't pay close attention to Canadian news, but yes, it looks like Trudeau ***** up as well. What I bolded is obvious - not sure it matters at this point but there is no crime in talking about it IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Just now, Gary M said: Claiming that he did not take it seriously. His hoax comment, its no big deal, just a cold, the flu is worse. That stuff. But I know, that doesn't count because you empty heads don't want it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Gary Busey said: What exactly is that hoax? I've asked for a definition before but haven't gotten one. What is the speciific hoax dems and shady are doing? You know exactly what he meant. He said the Democrat accusations about his handling of the virus was their "new hoax." Following the hoax of his Russian collusion and the hoax of the Ukrainian "Quid pro quo. It was pretty simple to grasp, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Just now, Gary Busey said: I don't live in Canada and don't pay close attention to Canadian news, but yes, it looks like Trudeau ***** up as well. What I bolded is obvious - not sure it matters at this point but there is no crime in talking about it IMO No country was really ready for such a thing. Should they be? Maybe. Maybe not? We’re ready for lots of bad stuff, but expecting a country to be ready for something that they have NO WAY to be ready for is a bit nutty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Trump only cares about his reelection, he could give a crap about the health and safety of the people. So obvious. He's like a drunk and stupid father recklessly yelling out nonsense Come on Tibs, calm down and you'll see things in a much more realistic way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Just now, SoCal Deek said: No country was really ready for such a thing. Should they be? Maybe. Maybe not? We’re ready for lots of bad stuff, but expecting a country to be ready for something that they have NO WAY to be ready for is a bit nutty. The United States used to have a pandemic response team. Under Trump's leadership that team no longer exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: It was pretty simple to grasp, actually. Obviously it isn't Just now, Gary Busey said: The United States used to have a pandemic response team. Under Trump's leadership that team no longer exists. Still not true 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Just now, Gary Busey said: The United States used to have a pandemic response team. Under Trump's leadership that team no longer exists. Oh, please. There are pandemic response experts and teams all around the world. Show me one place, other than South Korea where it has made one damn bit of difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 48 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: You link two things in your response: A left leaning writer in a legal newsletter and a hit piece in Vanity Fair. Pretty high brow-stuff.... A hit piece from the Religious cult perspective...ok. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/05/white-house-loses-global-health-security-lead-as-a-new-ebola-outbreak-hits/560195/ Quote But the worry is that Hall and her team may now be stretched too thinly. “Now they have to take on not only epidemic and biological threats, but they have to worry about North Korea and Iran and everything else,” says Inglesby. “The more that you make [epidemic preparedness] a part of other activities, the less time anyone has to focus on any of it.” Ron Klain, the former Ebola czar, agrees. “Andrea Hall has a good reputation, but I think this is a mistake that puts us all more at risk,” he says. “Combining epidemic prevention and control with WMD issues means that the epidemic work will always take a back seat. It means that no senior level person will be specifically focused on the work that needs to be done to protect us from this serious threat. And it means that the team will tilt their focus more toward intentional attacks using infectious diseases, and less on the more frequent (and just as serious) risk of naturally spread diseases.” Then there was the early warning by former members...on January 28th https://www.wsj.com/articles/act-now-to-prevent-an-american-epidemic-11580255335 Quote The novel coronavirus now epidemic in China has features that may make it very difficult to control. If public-health authorities don’t interrupt the spread soon, the virus could infect many thousands more around the globe, disrupt air travel, overwhelm health-care systems, and, worst of all, claim more lives. The good news: There’s still an opening to prevent a grim outcome. Unfortunately, that window of opportunity was squandered because the stock market and economy were too important.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Gary Busey said: The United States used to have a pandemic response team. Under Trump's leadership that team no longer exists. And you know this how exactly? Did you work there? Many that do work there have said that’s simply not true. But....the point is that our ‘response’ was pretty much spot on. We shut down travel from known infected areas and immediately ramped up production and readiness once we found out that some people had gotten through the shut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: No country was really ready for such a thing. Should they be? Maybe. Maybe not? We’re ready for lots of bad stuff, but expecting a country to be ready for something that they have NO WAY to be ready for is a bit nutty. This is the MMQ approach that the Trump cult is now throwing out there, kind of like what those in charge during the 2008 financial crisis said to protect their a$$es... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 The answer is always more government. Save me mommy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Just now, TPS said: This is the MMQ approach that the Trump cult is now throwing out there, kind of like what those in charge during the 2008 financial crisis said to protect their a$$es... Not sure what any of that means but OK...I guess. 1 minute ago, ScotSHO said: The answer is always more government. Save me mommy. The funny part is that you’d think the Left would absolutely LOVE what’s been happening the last two weeks. The heavy hand of government has been able to get the people to shut down the entire country with a mere wave of its mighty hand. Pretty impressive (and a bit scary) really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 minute ago, TPS said: A hit piece from the Religious cult perspective...ok. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/05/white-house-loses-global-health-security-lead-as-a-new-ebola-outbreak-hits/560195/ Then there was the early warning by former members...on January 28th https://www.wsj.com/articles/act-now-to-prevent-an-american-epidemic-11580255335 Unfortunately, that window of opportunity was squandered because the stock market and economy were too important.... Like I said to Gary, there are pandemic experts and teams all around this world. Since you are so convinced this team was disbanded or prevented from doing their job and making a difference: 1. Tell us which contries in the world, with these experts and teams, have been successful in stopping or curtailing this virus or decreasing the death rate. 2. Show us how the rate of the spread of infection in the US or the death rate in the US is in comparison to these countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: he doesn't listen to experts because he thinks hes smarter. Listen to the experts he talks out of his ass - It's only the flu and it all be over by April. It will disappear, it will be a miracle. Stop telling lies. - “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA,” he tweeted in late February “Anybody that needs a test, gets a test. They’re there. They have the tests. And the tests are beautiful.” He only took this serious when the markets crashed, not when the cases were exploding. President Donald Trump accused Democrats of “politicizing” the deadly coronavirus during a campaign rally here on Friday, claiming that the outbreak is “their new hoax” as he continued to downplay the risk in the U.S. “This is their new hoax,” Trump continued, adding that attacking the White House’s response to the coronavirus had become the Democratic Party’s “single talking point.” “Democrats will always say horrible things," Trump said. "Democrats want us to fail so badly.” So, I ask. What was most important to him? Sure, the experts knew everything there was to know about this virus in February. He was not gathering information, and the situation is not fluid. (yeah, that is all sarcasm.) "The hoax" comment was referring to the press and Democrats saying he was not taking this seriously. This has been pointed out before. Yet, you still repeat that he called the virus a hoax as fact. SMH What would YOU have done differently? You have an extra month to read the experts opinions. Specifically, what would YOU have done differently that is within the control of the federal government (as opposed to state control)? And I once again ask: What do you think President Trump could have done differently? What do you think he should be doing differently? Specifics please. ? (You didn't answer any of those questions.) As far as politicizing this: see Pelosi, Nancy. THAT is politicizing the virus. Stuffing every goodie on your party's wish list/agenda into a bill when people are looking for money and hope. Edited March 26, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 18 hours ago, IDBillzFan said: You mean other than maintaining the payroll of five people who sit in their homes watching Netflix so they can keep their home and health insurance? You mean other than buying groceries here for people who can't leave their house? You mean other than joining local groups to buy from local businesses and restaurants? My point is to do more and blame less. You far-left chuckleheads are so deranged over Trump that you find it necessary to pop in here to write some childish crap like "Just checking in to make sure everyone I don't agree with are still here!" before spewing repeatedly untrue nonsense about Trump gutting the panademic team. You have one purpose here: point and blame. It's embarrassing to read against a backdrop of other people here talking about what is going on and how to address it. Turn off the PC and try harder. it is really self inflicted. when one is wrong so often, it develops a certain mindset. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 29 minutes ago, meazza said: Does it really matter at this point? Justin Trudeau (who many of you here on the left would vote for) was extremely inactive up until a couple of weeks ago even though there were clear signs that this was going to hit Canada. Same thing for Italy and France. Everyone of these leaders took it lightly. Trump banning travel from China in January was a good move but it should have also been followed up by testing people coming into the country starting in February when this was obviously going to cause problems. All western leaders deserve a kick in the ass for this mess. Actually, China deserves the kick in the ass for unleashing this on an unsuspecting world. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: Actually, China deserves the kick in the ass for unleashing this on an unsuspecting world. Agree with you. Sadly there government blaming other countries. It's sad that they are doing that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Sure, the experts knew everything there was to know about this virus in February. He was not gathering information, and the situation is not fluid. (yeah, that is all sarcasm.) "The hoax" comment was referring to the press and Democrats saying he was not taking this seriously. This has been pointed out before. Yet, you still repeat that he called the virus a hoax as fact. SMH What would YOU have done differently? You have an extra month to read the experts opinions. Specifically, what would YOU have done differently that is within the control of the federal government (as opposed to state control)? And I once again ask: What do you think President Trump could have done differently? What do you think he should be doing differently? Specifics please. ? (You didn't answer any of those questions.) As far as politicizing this: see Pelosi, Nancy. THAT is politicizing the virus. Stuffing every goodie on your party's wish list/agenda into a bill when people are looking for money and hope. Add in there Trump limited/stopped people from China coming to the United States back in January, maybe, and was called a racist for doing so, now getting blasted for not having foresight and doing enough before this thing took off when actually he did. Liberals are a bunch hypocritical, ignorant losers that CAN NOT see the other side of anything, it is strictly 1000% orange man bad syndrome! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/03/24/820711855/spanish-military-finds-dead-bodies-and-seniors-completely-abandoned-in-care-home The Spanish military has found older residents of some care homes "completely abandoned" and even "dead in their beds," Defense Minister Margarita Robles said in a television interview on Monday. They were found as soldiers disinfected and provided emergency health care services this week to residential homes across the country. Robles did not give an exact figure for the number of dead bodies found by Spanish soldiers. With more than 39,000 confirmed cases of COVID-19 and 2,800 deaths as of Tuesday, Spain is the second hardest-hit country in Europe. On Tuesday, 514 new deaths were registered in a 24-hour period, the worst increase since the outbreak began. Retirement homes have been particularly affected. This is awful sad for people in nursing homes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, pop gun said: and was called a racist for doing so Untrue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GG Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 41 minutes ago, meazza said: Let's be honest, Trump touting that things will be open in Easter doesn't stray too far from his usual off the cuff proclamations. I don't understand how people simply haven't gotten used to not taking those comments seriously. Not picking on you specifically, but let's read the actual words that were spoken to see if he's actually commanding the country to be open by Easter. "I would love to have the country opened up and just raring to go by Easter" “Our public health experts, who are terrific, are studying the variation and the disease across the country, and we will be using data to recommend new protocols to allow local economies to cautiously resume their activity at the appropriate time,” “Our country wasn’t built to be shut down,” “This is not a country that was built for this.” 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, pop gun said: Add in there Trump limited/stopped people from China coming to the United States back in January, maybe, and was called a racist for doing so, now getting blasted for not having foresight and doing enough before this thing took off when actually he did. Liberals are a bunch hypocritical, ignorant losers that CAN NOT see the other side of anything, it is strictly 1000% orange man bad syndrome! I wish all government's in the world or kings queens whatever to China. Not much anyone can do to stop it after that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 America’s truckers face increasing challenges on front lines in war against coronavirus The Kansas City Star, by Judy L Thomas Original Article KRUISER’S MORNING BRIEF: Senate Unanimously Passes Coronavirus Relief Bill—Someone Should Check on Granny Boxwine. “Pelosi engaged in some of the most shameless politicking for personal gain of her career, and that’s saying quite a lot. Thankfully, it was all for naught. However, as Tyler mentioned in his headline, she was gambling with people’s lives. This should be a permanent stain on her career, but the thoroughly evil press is no doubt working on ways to run interference for her.” SPAIN: Spain extends state of emergency until April 12 as coronavirus crisis worsens. 3 Sailors on USS Theodore Roosevelt Have COVID-19; Port Calls Canceled as Navy Investigates Outbreak. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Gary Busey said: Untrue Actually, both Biden and Sanders said the travel bans instituted by Trump were xenophobic and that they wouldn't have instituted them. There was also a storm of criticism on CNN, MSNBC, and in social media. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 More China government full of crap. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, GG said: Not picking on you specifically, but let's read the actual words that were spoken to see if he's actually commanding the country to be open by Easter. "I would love to have the country opened up and just raring to go by Easter" “Our public health experts, who are terrific, are studying the variation and the disease across the country, and we will be using data to recommend new protocols to allow local economies to cautiously resume their activity at the appropriate time,” “Our country wasn’t built to be shut down,” “This is not a country that was built for this.” People look at headlines, this isn't unique to the orange man. That being said, maybe he is getting his advice from our man in exile, DC Tom who predicted that this would be over by just after Easter? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Actually, both Biden and Sanders said the travel bans instituted by Trump were xenophobic and that they wouldn't have instituted them. There was also a storm of criticism on CNN, MSNBC, and in social media. That "storm of criticism" should be easy to post, especially since it was on social media. The only thing I have seen is a fake Schumer tweet posted dozens of times. Biden is a moron but he did not call the travel ban xenophobic. I haven't seen what Sanders said. Please let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, TPS said: It was subsumed under bioterrorism which hindered the response. Link 52 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: The United States used to have a pandemic response team. Under Trump's leadership that team no longer exists. You both have gone on about Trump disbanding the pandemic response team or making it ineffective in some way. There are pandemic experts and teams around the world. I have asked you before and you haven't provided an answer, so I will ask again: 1. Tell us which contries in the world, with these experts and teams, have been successful in stopping or curtailing this virus or decreasing the death rate. 2. Show us how the lack of the pandemic response team here has affected the rate of the spread of infection in the US or the death rate in the US is in comparison to these countries I'll wait. Edited March 26, 2020 by billsfan1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, meazza said: People look at headlines, this isn't unique to the orange man. That being said, maybe he is getting his advice from our man in exile, DC Tom who predicted that this would be over by just after Easter? It's not people. It's the anti-Trump faction in the news that are deliberately twisting his words. Look at his words and match them up to the headlines. In fact, there was the first source for the headline that Trump wants to open up the country by Easter, and all other news outlets simply repeated it. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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